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3 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Yeah... but it's obvious it's a joke.

Lots of people still believe it.  Just a month ago I talked to a PC gamer who thought that.

 

Anyway, back on topic.  If Coffee Lake was readily available and at MSRP, I'd say try returning Ryzen, but it isn't.  Ryzen CPU's are still great.  Something doesn't have to be "the latest and greatest" to be a good choice.  Buyer's remorse hasn't existed in the CPU market for a long time, but everyone feels it at some point.  There will always be something better out there, and part of buying a PC means accepting that.

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Just now, shadowbyte said:

Plus, you'd need a new Z370 board, which will (knowing Intel) become obsolete next year,

There's no precedence for this being true or close to true. 

Just now, shadowbyte said:

while AMD plans to support AM4 for 'four years'

With 225W parts, right?

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1 minute ago, ARikozuM said:

There's no precedence for this being true or close to true. 

it's speculation, most likely false, but I don't know the future.

1 minute ago, ARikozuM said:

With 225W parts, right?

wat

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Just now, JoostinOnline said:

Lots of people still believe it.  Just a month ago I talked to a PC gamer who thought that.

Wow.... speechless...

 

1 minute ago, JoostinOnline said:

Anyway, back on topic.  If Coffee Lake was readily available and at MSRP, I'd say try returning Ryzen, but it isn't.  Ryzen CPU's are still great.  Something doesn't have to be "the latest and greatest" to be a good choice.  Buyer's remorse hasn't existed in the CPU market for a long time, but everyone feels it at some point.  There will always be something better out there, and part of buying a PC means accepting that.

Yep yep yep. I'm currently using an X58 system, no problems and totally happy with it. Latest and greatest is cool, but old stuff works about the same in real world use.

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7 minutes ago, shadowbyte said:

wat

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113347

 

FX-9590 220W CPU. 

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4 hours ago, Killstreak said:

No. The human eye cant see above 25FPS. And its just numbers. It wont effect your experniece. 

Human visual perception is quite complex, certainly much more than "seeing". Nanosecond long intense light flashes are perceptible. http://www.pcgamer.com/how-many-frames-per-second-can-the-human-eye-really-see/

80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality.

 

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