CPU TDP

[Boogeyman]

could I run a 125w cpu in a motherboard that is meant for a 95? what would happen if i ran a 125 in it?

[dragoon20005]

the VRMs will overheat and in some cases go pop and catch fire

[Boogeyman]

do you think there is any way to push it safely ?

[3rrant]

5 minutes ago, Boogeyman said:

could I run a 125w cpu in a motherboard that is meant for a 95? what would happen if i ran a 125 in it?

Realistically speaking, it will probably shut down as soon as you power it. There are built-in protections and usually also hard locks that actually prevent the installed CPU to run "over the specs" (so it puts the frequency to the minimum and brings you to the bios with a warning).

 

If you go much higher tha the TDP suggested, it won't turn on at all (Like a 9590 on a 65-95W motherboard).

 

3 minutes ago, dragoon20005 said:

the VRMs will overheat and in some cases go pop and catch fire

Sure, in case something go catastrophically wrong and no protections even try to turn on in time.

You'd better call firefighters when you install it. Did you even try that once?

[Boogeyman]

1 minute ago, ErrantNyles said:

Realistically speaking, it will probably shut down as soon as you power it. There are built-in protections and usually also hard locks that actually prevent the installed CPU to run "over the specs" (so it puts the frequency to the minimum and brings you to the bios with a warning).

 

If you go much higher tha the TDP suggested, it won't turn on at all (Like a 9590 on a 65-95W motherboard).

 

Sure, in case something go catastrophically wrong and no protections even try to turn on in time.

You'd better call firefighters when you install it. Did you even try that once?

lol yeah. i was reading some ppl puch it but hell with trying it 

[rip]

4 minutes ago, Boogeyman said:

do you think there is any way to push it safely ?

yes, don't do it

[3rrant]

1 minute ago, Boogeyman said:

lol yeah. i was reading some ppl puch it but hell with trying it 

Still, be careful. It can damage your motherboard. If you really can't afford a different one and need it running, you'd better downvolt and downclock it as soon as you go into the BIOS (If the mobo don't lock you before that).

[Boogeyman]

1 minute ago, rip said:

yes, don't do it

honestly might pull a old rig and try 

[Boogeyman]

Just now, ErrantNyles said:

Still, be careful. It can damage your motherboard. If you really can't afford a different one and need it running, you'd better downvolt and downclock it as soon as you go into the BIOS (If the mobo don't lock you before that).

getting a new one is no issue but i was pretty curious 

[Enderman]

3 minutes ago, ErrantNyles said:

Realistically speaking, it will probably shut down as soon as you power it. There are built-in protections and usually also hard locks that actually prevent the installed CPU to run "over the specs" (so it puts the frequency to the minimum and brings you to the bios with a warning).

What about the protection on this motherboard? Did it go on vacation?

 

[Boogeyman]

1 minute ago, Enderman said:

What about the protection on this motherboard? Did it go on vacation?

 

lmao 

[3rrant]

2 minutes ago, Enderman said:

cut

As you can see here: https://it.msi.com/file/test_report/TR19_3395.pdf

 

The 9590 is not supported. And as stated in my first reply, that's not something to kid with. It's a 225W+ CPU with over-insanity stock voltage. Still, faults exists. Also, it was probably pushed to hell just to prove that  it can break, that's not a newly-built pc

[dragoon20005]

3 minutes ago, Boogeyman said:

lmao 

BoostedBoiz

 

this guy just send it!

[Boogeyman]

Just now, ErrantNyles said:

As you can see here: https://it.msi.com/file/test_report/TR19_3395.pdf

 

The 9590 is not supported. And as stated in my first reply, that's not something to kid with. It's a 225W+ CPU with over-insanity stock voltage. Still, faults exists. Also, it was probably pushed to hell just to prove that  it can break, that's not a newly-built pc

thats a cool chart thanks. i will check it out rn 

[Enderman]

1 minute ago, ErrantNyles said:

As you can see here: https://it.msi.com/file/test_report/TR19_3395.pdf

 

The 9590 is not supported. And as stated in my first reply, that's not something to kid with. It's a 225W+ CPU with over-insanity stock voltage. Still, faults exists. Also, it was probably pushed to hell just to prove that  it can break, that's not a newly-built pc

My point is that motherboards do not have any protection or detection of over-TDP CPUs.

If you push enough power to a CPU, any motherboard will catch on fire.

The "lower clock speed and shut down" protection is only for CPU overtemperature protection.

If a motherboard had to shut down based on CPU TDP then overclocking would be impossible.

[3rrant]

1 minute ago, Enderman said:

My point is that motherboards do not have any protection or detection of over-TDP CPUs.

If you push enough power to a CPU, any motherboard will catch on fire.

The "lower clock speed and shut down" protection is only for CPU overtemperature protection.

If a motherboard had to shut down based on CPU TDP then overclocking would be impossible.

It's an overcurrent protection. It exists on any piece of hardware produced by quality manifacturer. I did own and try to run a 9590 and 8350 on "totally don't try this at home" situations and got interesting results myself. 

 

The motherboard goes on fire when: you disable any protection or prevent them from acting, you force a huge voltage or power limit, the motherboard is faulty.

 

The thermal throttle is a completely different thing.

 

You know that TDP means actually nothing, right?

 

5 minutes ago, Boogeyman said:

thats a cool chart thanks. i will check it out rn 

That's the supported cpu list for the motherboard in the video. You should check your motherboard name, go on the manifacturer site for your product, search for "support > supported CPU list" and you should find the one about your model.

[Valkyrie Lenneth]

24 minutes ago, Enderman said:

What about the protection on this motherboard? Did it go on vacation?

 

its msi, i had a friend who had 5boards going up in smoke without an oc or heavy watt load ...   i dont trust msi boards anymore haha , i had heat issues with a stock system on msi aswell on the vrms ( not even oc )  and yeah the proper boards :v

[Enderman]

7 hours ago, ErrantNyles said:

You know that TDP means actually nothing, right?

TDP is measured in watts and is the amount of power being consumed by a component (which also equals the amount of watts in heat being output by that component)