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Just now, Valkyrie Lenneth said:

crap and u wont gain much from that in my opinion, especially not with an i7... ive had that cooler and it couldnt even cool a friggen phenom 2 x4 965 on stock ... :P lol

Right. I'll research a little and see what cooler to use. Don't want to break the bank though.

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1 minute ago, Shehroz Khan said:

Right. I'll research a little and see what cooler to use. Don't want to break the bank though.

80-120$ is going to be ur range either way

 

save money or deal with a stock i7 :P a stock i7 is beter then a i5 oc anyway

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8 minutes ago, Valkyrie Lenneth said:

80-120$ is going to be ur range either way

 

save money or deal with a stock i7 :P a stock i7 is beter then a i5 oc anyway

So basically, what you guys are saying, is, my temps are totally normal? For a stock cooler? I'd be relieved if they are

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28 minutes ago, Shehroz Khan said:

yeah, that can happen too. But I REALLY want to know, if delidding will help. I'm not worried about destroying my cpu tbh :3.

it won't 4790k was a refresh of 4770k specifically to fix the TMI problems your temps are high because of crap cooler nothing else

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12 minutes ago, Shehroz Khan said:

Right. I'll research a little and see what cooler to use. Don't want to break the bank though.

i got to 4.6 ~ 4.7 on a 212 EVO and used a watercooler AIO to get mine to 4.8

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4 minutes ago, SquintyG33Rs said:

i got to 4.6 ~ 4.7 on a 212 EVO and used a watercooler AIO to get mine to 4.8

Well. Thanks for the replies and the help.

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40 minutes ago, Shehroz Khan said:

So basically, what you guys are saying, is, my temps are totally normal? For a stock cooler? I'd be relieved if they are

Yes they are normal for a stock intel cooler.

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49 minutes ago, Shehroz Khan said:

Right. I'll research a little and see what cooler to use. Don't want to break the bank though.

Don't buy a cooler that's too cheap. Make sure to get a cooler that is both useful and inexpensive.

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30 minutes ago, scighera2 said:

Don't buy a cooler that's too cheap. Make sure to get a cooler that is both useful and inexpensive.

Alright. I think a corsair hydro h90 looks good.

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1 minute ago, Shehroz Khan said:

Alright. I think a corsair hydro h90 looks good.

no don''t get a 120 or 140mm AIO, get a nice air cooler or get a dual 120 or 140mm AIO

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4 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

no don''t get a 120 or 140mm AIO, get a nice air cooler or get a dual 120 or 140mm AIO

Any specific options you have in mind? 

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2 minutes ago, Shehroz Khan said:

Any specific options you have in mind? 

noctua's large air coolers are good, h7, the corsiar h1-- series. 

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1 hour ago, Valkyrie Lenneth said:

am just suprised ur on a stock intel cooler in the firstplace tho xD

 

i7 cant be cooled by that thing , its just for low load usage why they included it

 

^^ lol ( internettin n stuff )

 

intel should refuse to send coolers with a i7 ( way better for the consumer ) so their forced to atleast buy a pretty decent cooler P;  if u have money for i7, no money for a cooler? wtf ^^

Yeah its not exactly like that. My father had this for 3 years. Now he upgraded to a 7th gen and gave me this cpu(and mobo and ram). It's not that i DONT have money for a cooler. I will buy one, now, for sure

He's using his cooler on the 7th gen now.

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2 hours ago, Shehroz Khan said:

Hi, everyone. I have a question. On cinebench r15, when I run the full cpu multithread test, my temps are high, as shown below in the picture. Are they too high? I have re applied an Arctic Silver 5, and am using the Stock Intel cooler (for 6th gen tho). I am planning to buy a delidding tool, some coollaboratory liquid ultra, and delid my cpu and then overclock it. Will there be any difference in temps, after delidding?

Also, I forgot to mention, my ambient temps are 28C. 

Thank you for your time. :)

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Owned the same CPU i'm pretty sure that processor is the reason why Intel doesn't pack stock coolers in their K based CPU's haha

 

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16 minutes ago, jdwii said:

Owned the same CPU i'm pretty sure that processor is the reason why Intel doesn't pack stock coolers in their K based CPU's haha

 

So you had similiar temps too? On stock cooler?

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4 minutes ago, Shehroz Khan said:

So you had similiar temps too? On stock cooler?

Yes i did and i'm guessing you are using Prime95 right? Well that uses AVX instructions that put unrealistic loads to your system instead use XTU with my 4790K i was able to get a 4.7ghz OC at 1.225V on my Kraken X61. 

 

On the stock cooler you will see those temps under AVX loads but under gaming or other things you will see a good 20C less on 80-90% loads. 

 

Get an aftermarket cooler i once had a 212+ on my 4790K and at stock those same AVX loads topped out at 82C 

 

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12 minutes ago, jdwii said:

Yes i did and i'm guessing you are using Prime95 right? Well that uses AVX instructions that put unrealistic loads to your system instead use XTU with my 4790K i was able to get a 4.7ghz OC at 1.225V on my Kraken X61. 

 

On the stock cooler you will see those temps under AVX loads but under gaming or other things you will see a good 20C less on 80-90% loads. 

 

Get an aftermarket cooler i once had a 212+ on my 4790K and at stock those same AVX loads topped out at 82C 

 

I'm actually using cinebench r15

As you said, i heard that prime 95 isn't a realistic test and the instructions it uses aren't used by most applications anyways

 

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2 hours ago, Shehroz Khan said:

Hi, everyone. I have a question. On cinebench r15, when I run the full cpu multithread test, my temps are high, as shown below in the picture. Are they too high? I have re applied an Arctic Silver 5, and am using the Stock Intel cooler (for 6th gen tho). I am planning to buy a delidding tool, some coollaboratory liquid ultra, and delid my cpu and then overclock it. Will there be any difference in temps, after delidding?

Also, I forgot to mention, my ambient temps are 28C. 

Thank you for your time. :)

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4790k owner here,

 

getting a delid tool and some coollaboratory liquid ultra will NOT do you any good while using the stock intel cooler.

you can still do the whole delid thing after you get a better cooler if you want to push the cpu.

 

 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Shehroz Khan said:

I'm actually using cinebench r15

As you said, i heard that prime 95 isn't a realistic test and the instructions it uses aren't used by most applications anyways

 

Ok well i actually never monitored temps in R15 when i had my 4790K on the stock cooler but i did monitor it with Prime and ADIA64 and under stress tests it hit 94-95C on all cores meaning throttling buying a 212+ fixed it and i even could OC to 4.4ghz when i got my Kraken X61 i was able to do 4.7ghz. 

 

All i'm saying is its normal and buy an after market cooler Intel should have never even bundled a cooler with that processor  

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