Is this PC good?

[TeRez]

Hi I was just asking if this is a good gaming pc I built in PC part picker. I chose these parts based on their rating. I'm a beginner at pc building as I want to move on from my old laptop.

Here is the link: https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/kM9VNN.  If you have any suggestions on how I can improve this and hopefully make it cheaper please tell me. Thank you

[TheRandomness]

-Thread moved to New Builds and Planning.

[3rrant]

41 minutes ago, TeRez said:

Hi I was just asking if this is a good gaming pc I built in PC part picker. I chose these parts based on their rating. I'm a beginner at pc building as I want to move on from my old laptop.

Here is the link: https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/kM9VNN.  If you have any suggestions on how I can improve this and hopefully make it cheaper please tell me. Thank you

Are you looking for performance or RGB? Because 10-30% of your price is because you've chosen RGB parts, which have no impact on performance. Also, is it for gaming or other purpose?

[MadOverclocker]

43 minutes ago, TeRez said:

Hi I was just asking if this is a good gaming pc I built in PC part picker. I chose these parts based on their rating. I'm a beginner at pc building as I want to move on from my old laptop.

Here is the link: https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/kM9VNN.  If you have any suggestions on how I can improve this and hopefully make it cheaper please tell me. Thank you

You should change the cpu to coffe lake or get Ryzen 3 or 5. You can add wifi capabilities y'now? Also you don't NEED 16GB of RAM, Ideally 8GB is perfect. 16GB or more is kinda starting on entusiat level (Any entusiast or someone can correct me).

[Conza]

49 minutes ago, TeRez said:

Hi I was just asking if this is a good gaming pc I built in PC part picker. I chose these parts based on their rating. I'm a beginner at pc building as I want to move on from my old laptop.

Here is the link: https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/kM9VNN.  If you have any suggestions on how I can improve this and hopefully make it cheaper please tell me. Thank you

Great build actually, if the budget is $2000 then yeah great stuff.

 

I'll admit I bought many similar parts, have that exact same SSD as my boot SSD, after windows and a few programs I have *checKs* 183 GBs left myself, so might be enough for 1-2 high size AAA games to swap in and out (just for load times, up to you).

 

it really depends if this is a budget or if you can wait and save. Another $200 can get you up to a 1070, will probably last another year on average depending on your resolution and game preferences, might be worth a consideration. 7600k is a good choice, if you want to go Ryzen look at the 1500X it might be a nice way to allocate more funds to other components, but if you're overclocking you're almost certain to get a higher outcome from a 7600k, maybe 4.6-4.7GHz without it being much of an issue, 5GHz is unlikely. 7350k is good too in my opinion, higher base clock so therefore more likely higher overclock, will matter more at the lower resolution.

 

MB choice is excellent, lots of bonus features I went with the Z270G verison (mATX), would've used this for an ATX build.

 

Consider spending a bit more for the CPU cooler, but this one is fine. I went with the bigger brother of this RAM choice, looks beautiful no regrets.

 

Not sure on the case, to me they're so cheap I'd go for something you really like, if you really like this then great I'm sure it will work fine. Perfectly fine PSU choice.

[Fardin]

 

1 hour ago, TeRez said:

Hi I was just asking if this is a good gaming pc I built in PC part picker. I chose these parts based on their rating. I'm a beginner at pc building as I want to move on from my old laptop.

Here is the link: https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/kM9VNN.  If you have any suggestions on how I can improve this and hopefully make it cheaper please tell me. Thank you

If you want to make a ryzen build, probably this will be more powerful system along with your preferred aesthetics. 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($336.00 @ 1stWave Technologies) 
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX B350-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($205.00 @ 1stWave Technologies) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($269.00 @ DTC Systems) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($158.00 @ 1stWave Technologies) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($75.00 @ DTC Systems) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card  ($749.00 @ DTC Systems) 
Case: Corsair - SPEC-03 Red ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.94 @ PB Technologies) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($177.60 @ PC Force) 
Total: $2049.54
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-04 23:37 NZST+1200

[Dackzy]

38 minutes ago, Conza said:

 but if you're overclocking you're almost certain to get a higher outcome from a 7600k, maybe 4.6-4.7GHz without it being much of an issue, 5GHz is unlikely. 7350k is good too in my opinion, higher base clock so therefore more likely higher overclock, will matter more at the lower resolution.

 

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that recommendation is bad, a i3 no matter which one you get is a shitty CPU. It is a dual core with 4 threads, guess what dude even a i5 with lower clock rates will beat that shitty i3, why? Because games can actually use all 4 cores AND a core is always better than a thread. A i3 will also bottleneck a 1060.

 

OP get yourself a nice Ryzen R5 1600 +1070 system, another guy in here made one for you. Which seems to be pretty good.

[Conza]

1 minute ago, Dackzy said:

that recommendation is bad, a i3 no matter which one you get is a shitty CPU. It is a dual core with 4 threads, guess what dude even a i5 with lower clock rates will beat that shitty i3, why? Because games can actually use all 4 cores AND a core is always better than a thread. A i3 will also bottleneck a 1060.

 

OP get yourself a nice Ryzen R5 1600 +1070 system, another guy in here made one for you. Which seems to be pretty good.

Hey Dackzy, so my understanding is that single core Ghz is the number 1 contributor to gaming performance, and that most games really aren't doing anything with multi-core setup. But happy to be schooled a bit here.

 

So what's an example of a benchmark in game (non-synthetic obviously) that shows an i3 7350K losing to a Ryzen ****/X?

 

So far I've seen that it seems Ryzen maintains a more consistent frame rate (higher 1% and 0.1% lows), but doesn't really seem superior to raw GHz.

[Conza]

32 minutes ago, Fardin said:

 

If you want to make a ryzen build, probably this will be more powerful system along with your preferred aesthetics. 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($336.00 @ 1stWave Technologies)

Hey Fardin, I just wanted to ask, why would a 1600 be a superior choice to a 1500X for gaming purposes?

 

1500X has 300Mhz more out of the box and is almost $50NZD cheaper. 1600 seems to be what a lot of people suggest as the Ryzen choice. Am I missing something that the 1600 has which the 1500X doesn't, which would contribute to it being a better choice, for gaming?

[Herman Mcpootis]

1 minute ago, Conza said:

Hey Fardin, I just wanted to ask, why would a 1600 be a superior choice to a 1500X for gaming purposes?

 

1500X has 300Mhz more out of the box and is almost $50NZD cheaper. 1600 seems to be what a lot of people suggest as the Ryzen choice. Am I missing something that the 1600 has which the 1500X doesn't, which would contribute to it being a better choice, for gaming?

clock speed isn't the only thing that matters in gaming. the 1600 has 2 extra cores with hyperthreading that makes it perform better in games, they do get used even in some older games.

[Herman Mcpootis]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($336.00 @ 1stWave Technologies) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($137.00 @ Paradigm PCs) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($250.18 @ Ascent Technology) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($158.00 @ 1stWave Technologies) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($74.00 @ 1stWave Technologies) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB WINDFORCE OC 8G Video Card  ($872.03 @ PC Force) 
Case: Corsair - Carbide SPEC-M2 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($65.00 @ 1stWave Technologies) 
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($157.00 @ 1stWave Technologies) 
Total: $2049.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-05 00:27 NZST+1200

[Dackzy]

16 minutes ago, Conza said:

Hey Dackzy, so my understanding is that single core Ghz is the number 1 contributor to gaming performance, and that most games really aren't doing anything with multi-core setup. But happy to be schooled a bit here.

 

So what's an example of a benchmark in game (non-synthetic obviously) that shows an i3 7350K losing to a Ryzen ****/X?

 

So far I've seen that it seems Ryzen maintains a more consistent frame rate (higher 1% and 0.1% lows), but doesn't really seem superior to raw GHz.

you are so wrong there. Most games today are 4 cores and more, hell all the big engines can do 8 cores scaling without any problem. This is also why we are seeing the fact that a i5 can bottle neck a 1070 in some games at 1080p, while a i7 with the same IPC but with more threads doesn't.

 

It is the IPC you want to look at, Ryzen is around Broadwell IPC so a little better IPC than Haswell and a little worse than Skylake/kabylake. The Ghz only matters when you take the IPC into consideration or else we can go by your logic and get a 5Ghz out of the box FX CPU from AMD, that you can easily OC up close to 6Ghz given good cooling and a good board, yet it falls short to basically any current CPU running at much lower clock speeds.

 

What you want when you are gaming is a consistent frame timing and as few drops, as you can get.

 

The highest average often means jack shit, a given CPU might get the highest average, but what does that help if you get micro stuttering and severe FPS drops? Nothing at all, you might get the highest average, but the gameplay won't be smooth, this we also see in i5 vs i7 benchmarks, the i7 will in some games get the same FPS as the i5, BUT the frame timings are much better and there are way fewer drops in FPS. (often a i7 will also out perform the i5 in average FPS)

 

For games where the 1600 beats the i3 (these are for when both are stock and OCed 4.0 OC to 1600 and 5.0 OC to i3) : Watch Dogs 2, GTA V, The witcher 3, Battlefield 1, Total war: Warhammer, Deus Ex Mankind Divided. This is all 1080p

Then we also have to factor in that a lot of people have stuff running the background while they game, which many of these benchmarks actually don't factor in, so if you have skype, discord or something like that running then that will hurt your FPS more on a i3 than it will a 1600.

 

The only place where the i3 wins is when you only need 1-2 cores, but if you play just somewhat new games (2010 and later), then there is a big chance the R5 1600 will beat it, plus if you try to multitask then the R5 1600 will just end up leading with even more. Also if OP wants to stream or do 3D work, basically just something that is CPU intensive then the 1600 is going to wreck the i3, it isn't even funny there.

[Fardin]

3 hours ago, Conza said:

Hey Fardin, I just wanted to ask, why would a 1600 be a superior choice to a 1500X for gaming purposes?

 

1500X has 300Mhz more out of the box and is almost $50NZD cheaper. 1600 seems to be what a lot of people suggest as the Ryzen choice. Am I missing something that the 1600 has which the 1500X doesn't, which would contribute to it being a better choice, for gaming?

apology for late response, 1600 provides extra 2 cores & 4 threads, they are all unlocked processor that means you can overclock them very easily so the baseclock aint matter much. it might sound very hard but overclocking ryzen is easiest ever & beside with the stock cooler you get with 1600 is enough for slight overclock like 3.6-3.8ghz. 2 extra core will be future proof & can able to handle any gpu you can throw, means there will be no chance of bottleneck if you wish to upgrade more powerful gpu sooner or later. & i think it provides exceptional value right now so why not have 2 cores more if you can afford? that doesn't mean 1500x is bad, its just 1600 is better choice. another note ryzen pairing with faster ram seems to boost performance more. intel might be ahead in average fps but sometimes there are micro shutters & frame drops in which case ryzen provides very smooth gaming experience. 

[Guest]

6 hours ago, TeRez said:

Hi I was just asking if this is a good gaming pc I built in PC part picker. I chose these parts based on their rating. I'm a beginner at pc building as I want to move on from my old laptop.

You should check out this case it's nice.

https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/product/jrVBD3/phanteks-case-phes515pbk

There is also a s340 elite but it wasn't available in your area so i'd say this is the next best thing.

[TeRez]

17 hours ago, ErrantNyles said:

Are you looking for performance or RGB? Because 10-30% of your price is because you've chosen RGB parts, which have no impact on performance. Also, is it for gaming or other purpose?

Sorry for the late response. I'm mainly building it for gaming and trying to get the best performance out of it. I only chose RGB because it looked cool. 

[TeRez]

17 hours ago, MadOverclocker said:

You should change the cpu to coffe lake or get Ryzen 3 or 5. You can add wifi capabilities y'now? Also you don't NEED 16GB of RAM, Ideally 8GB is perfect. 16GB or more is kinda starting on entusiat level (Any entusiast or someone can correct me).

Thank you for your suggestion. I'm not really a big fan of AMD's Ryzen but I'll go check out both of them. And yeah I did change it to 8gb of ram instead of 16gb later on as I thought it was a bit too overkill. 

[ErykYT3]

There is so much wrong with that. Get the 16GB ram but not from Trident. I was going to go down the same route of getting most parts RGB but i decided not to after seeing the price to performace ratio. Get a 1070 and wait for coffeelake.

[caylemhill]

Why are you spending fucking 200$+ on ram wtf