vega or 1070

[hellochicken]

Im looking for a 400 dollar gpu for gaming and cad/video work should I buy a 1070 or a vega gpu

[Jurrunio]

Even the cheapest example of the cheaper 1070 costs over $400, so you arent getting any one of them brand new.

[Cyracus]

1070 or vega for $400? where are you finding this mythical pricing?

[Wingfan]

Just now, Jurrunio said:

Even the cheapest example of the cheaper 1070 costs over $400, so you arent getting any one of them brand new.

These prices are sad arent they. I got my 1070 G1 for $384USD last Fall, thinking i made a good purchase

[Jurrunio]

1 minute ago, Wingfan said:

These prices are sad arent they. I got my 1070 G1 for $384USD last Fall, thinking i made a good purchase

I got my Asus 1070 Dual (used for 4 months) for $380 after the mining craze.... 

[hellochicken]

I have found both cards new and in stock for 400 dollars I was just wondering which one would be a better buy

 

[Input_Name_Here]

3 minutes ago, hellochicken said:

I have found both cards new and in stock for 400 dollars I was just wondering which one would be a better buy

 

Vega for Productivity

Vega for Gaming

 

[Mira Yurizaki]

Vega 56 is on par and sometimes a little better than the GTX 1070. But if you're more concerned with having less power and heat, get the 1070.

[Taja]

Well, basically:

The vega and gtx have the (+-) SAME performance. HOWEVER, the vega requires more energy (so check if your PSU can handle it). At last, pricing is what matters.

You should get the cheapest one, and if both are exactly the same price, the 1070 will be more efficient (which barely matters, but is still a win).

[the9thdude]

Vega 56 owner checking in here:

 

If you want something that will be fine out of the box without any fiddling, go for the 1070.

 

If you are willing to roll up your sleeves and suffer with the card for a day or two to get it to perform as optimally as possible, go for the V56. For realz, this card is a monster when you overclock the HBM and raise the power limit. Add in some seriously capable undervolting (which for me, increased performance because it wasn't being thermal throttled) you end up with a card that's really good for $400. If you can find it at that price.

[Wolfca]

1 hour ago, the9thdude said:

Vega 56 owner checking in here:

 

If you want something that will be fine out of the box without any fiddling, go for the 1070.

 

If you are willing to roll up your sleeves and suffer with the card for a day or two to get it to perform as optimally as possible, go for the V56. For realz, this card is a monster when you overclock the HBM and raise the power limit. Add in some seriously capable undervolting (which for me, increased performance because it wasn't being thermal throttled) you end up with a card that's really good for $400. If you can find it at that price.

I got one too, and I've been struggling a little with throttling. For undervolting, what were you able to settle on?

[the9thdude]

7 minutes ago, Wolfca said:

I got one too, and I've been struggling a little with throttling. For undervolting, what were you able to settle on?

So I left the clocks alone, at least for now, because WattMan just seems to ignore it. I ultimately settled on 1080mV and it nets me about 1520Mhz in Firestrike. Got some pretty good performance too: https://www.3dmark.com/fs/13524514

 

Really though, just lift the power and fan limit, then overclock your memory as far as you can.

[Zeitec]

Vega 56 is a better buy. It outperforms the 1070 at that price point. However, it's only a better buy if you

1) have good case airflow

2) a) Are willing to tweak voltages and power consumption OR b) don't care about power consumption. 

 

In terms of pure up front price: performance the Vega 56 is a better buy. However it runs hotter and it consumes more power, so if you can handle the increased heat and power then it's a great deal at $400. 

[the9thdude]

10 hours ago, Zeitec said:

Vega 56 is a better buy. It outperforms the 1070 at that price point. However, it's only a better buy if you

1) have good case airflow

2) a) Are willing to tweak voltages and power consumption OR b) don't care about power consumption. 

 

In terms of pure up front price: performance the Vega 56 is a better buy. However it runs hotter and it consumes more power, so if you can handle the increased heat and power then it's a great deal at $400. 

Airflow doesn't really matter when it comes to the reference design, as all air is channeled through the card to cool it. Cards that exhaust into the case require good air flow. Your second point still stands though.

[Darkseth]

Do you have a Freesync Monitor or G-Sync?

If none, do you plan on buying one?

 

 

In case of vega: Wait for actually good Models to come out with custom coolers.

Don't consider Reference-Crap at all.

There exists not 1 single Reason for a Computer to be Loud.

[the9thdude]

4 hours ago, Darkseth said:

Do you have a Freesync Monitor or G-Sync?

If none, do you plan on buying one?

 

 

In case of vega: Wait for actually good Models to come out with custom coolers.

Don't consider Reference-Crap at all.

There exists not 1 single Reason for a Computer to be Loud.

I've been rolling with the Nixeus Vue 24 for about a year now and I'm extremely happy with it. Even more so now with V56 and hitting >100fps at ultra settings.

 

I'd be inclined to agree with the reference design, but my case is... Interesting, which is why I opted for a blower style cooler. My case (Define R5) has two 140mm Noctua fans and a D15 cooling my R7 1700. Problem is that because my CPU remains cool nearly all the time, the front fans never ramp up and replenish cool air into the case, even at "high" setting through the motherboard.

[Robert Morgan]

If CAD work and rendering are more important, then go Nvidia. A lot of rendering engines use Iray, which is a proprietary Nvidia rendering engine. If you aren't using Iray and have no future plans to, then it really comes down to price, methinks.