current bulid vs target build.

[kevy_levy]

hey guys! a newbie on this forum and a newbie on pc in general. so forgive me if i ask a stupid question. 

well after reading the "before you post" thread i'll  give this a go. 

 

i live in jakarta, indonesia. prices for computer parts arent cheap without big online shops like amazon or newegg to buy from.  ( u can buy from it but the shipping bill is gonna cost u a left nut if you were to ship them from the states. 

so parts are quite limited to shop selling limited quantities and trustworthy genuine parts are a threat too. 

 

i mostly use this computer for watching linus on youtube, news,netflix and casual gaming. 

i run a 32" samsung monitor.

i have:
i3 4310 cpu socket 1150 
asrock h85m-hds mobo

vgen ddr3 2x 4gb ram
r7 260 gpu

windows 10 64bit
sliverstone sst-st50f-es 500w psu

the question is that i was thinking of upgrading my cpu to a i5 4590 and a gtx 1050ti just wondering since buliding a pc with a budget is always fun( warning sacasm alert) which should i upgrade first? and maybe perhaps a comment of the current overall bulid itself?

is my current psu able to withstand the upgrade? 

 

my target is to able to play current popular games like overwatch, battleground player unknown etc and a higher "quality of life" whenever i use my pc  that utilise my current native monitor resolution of 1920x1080 60hz 

 

by the by, i have a mid tower case and think of getting the zotec 1050ti single fan 4g card as with the current case i dont think i'll be able to run dual fans (length wise) 

thanks for sparing ur time and reading this! 

peace!

[SquintyG33Rs]

i think the GPU upgrade should go first. because gaming is the only taxing thing you do and it will be more apparent of an upgrade. I would suggest trying to go with a model that has a 6pin on it just because it offers more performance but i don't think they make single fan versions with the plug as well.

 

goodluck

[LienusLateTips]

Make your post night theme friendly

 

[kevy_levy]

2 minutes ago, JDE said:

Make your post night theme friendly

 

opps i apologise!  didnt think about the time difference. off u go back to sleep. read this again when u wake up with a coffee in hand!??

[Brooksie359]

Both upgrades are good choices but the gpu seems like it will have much more of an impact on you. 

[kevy_levy]

20 minutes ago, SquintyG33Rs said:

i think the GPU upgrade should go first. because gaming is the only taxing thing you do and it will be more apparent of an upgrade. I would suggest trying to go with a model that has a 6pin on it just because it offers more performance but i don't think they make single fan versions with the plug as well.

 

goodluck

hey thanks for the quick reply!  yeah my psu is 6pin and 8 pin ready. but the problem is the case not much wiggle roomfor the card with dual fans length wise to fit.  but thanks !

[kevy_levy]

1 minute ago, Brooksie359 said:

Both upgrades are good choices but the gpu seems like it will have much more of an impact on you. 

so gpu first then! thanks! 

[LienusLateTips]

1 minute ago, kevy_levy said:

opps i apologise!  didnt think about the time difference. off u go back to sleep. read this again when u wake up with a coffee in hand!??

Nope, I don't mean that. This site has both a day and night theme. Even in the daytime, it feels better for a lot of people. For some reason (probably you copy pasted from somewhere or you clicked black) your entire post looks like this:

 

Press edit, select it all and press the "TX" button.

 

 

 

1 minute ago, kevy_levy said:

so gpu first then! thanks! 

I would also agree with that. Maybe in between upgrade the PSU.

[kevy_levy]

5 minutes ago, JDE said:

Nope, I don't mean that. This site has both a day and night theme. Even in the daytime, it feels better for a lot of people. For some reason (probably you copy pasted from somewhere or you clicked black) your entire post looks like this:

 

Press edit, select it all and press the "TX" button.

 

 

 

I would also agree with that. Maybe in between upgrade the PSU.

ohhhhh.  lol that was a failed moment for me.  hmm im posting this from my ph.  so i could find the" tx" button u mention. 

[LienusLateTips]

Just now, kevy_levy said:

ohhhhh.  lol that was a failed moment for me.  hmm im posting this from my ph.  so i could find the" tx" button u mention. 

 

i guess when you go onto your pc go find it

 

i'll just completely select it and read like that

 

i'm not that sleepy

 

i'll stop making this off topic.

[kevy_levy]

Just now, JDE said:

 

i guess when you go onto your pc go find it

 

i'll just completely select it and read like that

 

i'm not that sleepy

 

i'll stop making this off topic.

no prob thanks for teaching me something new! 

[Zyndo]

53 minutes ago, kevy_levy said:

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If you want quality of life and gaming performance improvements... get a SSD for your OS and upgrade your graphics card. Your CPU isn't an urgent need compared to those two upgrades, so improve those other areas first. If you have money left over then consider finding yourself a used i5 or i7 from your 1150 generation. It should be reasonably easy/cheap to do that. I heavily disagree with anyone suggesting you upgrade your PSU at this point in time since you have nothing in your system (or the budget with which to acquire said components) in order to warrant a total wattage upgrade, nor a quality upgrade. You should upgrade with SSD/GPU first, then CPU (or platform if you wish), then RAM, then maybe your PSU if you felt like it.

 

 

But yes, a 1050ti would be a pretty significant upgrade over an R7 260 and should do well for your kind of 1080p 60hz gaming.

[kevy_levy]

On 8/28/2017 at 1:13 PM, Zyndo said:

If you want quality of life and gaming performance improvements... get a SSD for your OS and upgrade your graphics card. Your CPU isn't an urgent need compared to those two upgrades, so improve those other areas first. If you have money left over then consider finding yourself a used i5 or i7 from your 1150 generation. It should be reasonably easy/cheap to do that. I heavily disagree with anyone suggesting you upgrade your PSU at this point in time since you have nothing in your system (or the budget with which to acquire said components) in order to warrant a total wattage upgrade, nor a quality upgrade. You should upgrade with SSD/GPU first, then CPU (or platform if you wish), then RAM, then maybe your PSU if you felt like it.

 

 

But yes, a 1050ti would be a pretty significant upgrade over an R7 260 and should do well for your kind of 1080p 60hz gaming.

ok just got the gtx 1050 ti. looked on the internet, recommended to use DDU to uninstall the old AMD drivers.

 

Booted to safe mode, chose clean and shutdown.

 

opened computer, installed the new gpu.

 

check if Gpu fan is on. and its running. cpu fan is running. good.

 

 looked towards the monitor and nothing.just glorious blackness.

waited a few minutes and still nothing.

 

checked made sure is monitor source is HDMI. and made sure HDMI is plugged into the new gpu. 

still nothing..

 

reinstall my old gpu and monitor works fine.

 

Help?

[Zyndo]

4 hours ago, kevy_levy said:

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If your 1050ti can't get you to even your BIOS then its not a driver issue. reseat your card to be sure its not user error. double check the power connections to make sure they're the correct cables and that the cables are fully connected. clear CMOS. Update your motherboard's BIOS since the card you're trying to install didn't exist when your motherboard was created so it simply may not be able to talk to it correctly without a more recent BIOS. could just be your 1050ti arrived broken. it happens more often than one would think acceptable.

[kevy_levy]

just a quick update! When to my local computer store brought my pc and asked them whats wrong with it, wondering if the 1050 ti actually works or not. 

 

Change the PSU and it worked fine. so in conclusion,

Don't trust parts that isn't a mainstream Brand. My old PSU stated it was 500w but couldn't even withstand it.Got a Corsair CX5500M as a replacement.

 

 so for first time pc bulider always buy part that is from a reputable brand, and having a 3 years warranty doesn't hurt too!

thanks !