New computer having fps lag

[wuder4]

So I just bought few new computer parts and was wondering why i still have same fps issues that i had before.

new parts:

I5 7600

gigabyte 1080

MSI B250

Corsair memory 16GB

 

old parts:

psu 550W

1TB HDD

124GB SSD

 

I can see this lag in CPU as a spike during gaming. Game does not matter. During stress test this does not happen.

My HDD memory is really old could this be part of the problem?

[RGProductions]

Did you use ddu? Or reinstall Windows completely?

[Bradders]

2 minutes ago, wuder4 said:

So I just bought few new computer parts and was wondering why i still have same fps issues that i had before.

new parts:

I5 7600

gigabyte 1080

MSI B250

Corsair memory 16GB

 

old parts:

psu 550W

1TB HDD

124GB SSD

 

I can see this lag in CPU as a spike during gaming. Game does not matter. During stress test this does not happen.

My HDD memory is really old could this be part of the problem?

Watch your ping when it happens, do you get sudden ping spikes( Large movements in Ping) this is what will likely cause it

[ItsTheDuckAgain]

1 minute ago, Bradders said:

Watch your ping when it happens, do you get sudden ping spikes( Large movements in Ping) this is what will likely cause it

OP is talking about FPS... Ping issues (called lag by the way) represent them self totally different.

 

So: What?

[Wi RoZ]

As long as your OS is installed on the SSD (which I assume it is) then your HDD shouldn't be the problem. If you run some antivirus program like Norton or Kaspersky, try to let them run in silent/stealth-mode when gaming.

[RGProductions]

Just now, Wi RoZ said:

As long as your OS is installed on the SSD (which I assume it is) then your HDD shouldn't be the problem. If you run some antivirus program like Norton or Kaspersky, try to let them run in silent/stealth-mode when gaming.

Hard drive is probably not the issue, like you said. @themctipers games on an 80 gig Seagate, with no negative consequences!*

*Minus crashing

[themctipers]

Just now, RGProductions said:

Hard drive is probably not the issue, like you said. @themctipers games on an 80 gig Seagate, with no negative consequences!*

*Minus crashing

it gives me 90MB sequential actually. 

[Wi RoZ]

1 minute ago, RGProductions said:

Hard drive is probably not the issue, like you said. @themctipers games on an 80 gig Seagate, with no negative consequences!*

*Minus crashing

, HDD can be the problem though. Win10 seems to handle SSD with HDD setups a little weird sometimes. Got myself a laptop that will not boot up as fast as it should, takes more than 2 full minutes allthough the OS is installed on the 850 Evo. Reinstalled Win10 multiple times, tried different partition setups, you name it. Sometimes it randomly accesses the HDD while I am gaming, even when the game is fully installed on the SSD. This does actually cause some frametime differences but it is hardly noticeable

Edited August 22, 2017 by Wi RoZ

[Brooksie359]

1 minute ago, themctipers said:

it gives me 90MB sequential actually. 

i mean the harddrive speed should be a nonissue. unless there isn't enough ram most games wont go to the harddrive for information while in game and not a loading screen.

[themctipers]

Just now, Brooksie359 said:

i mean the harddrive speed should be a nonissue. unless there isn't enough ram most games wont go to the harddrive for information while in game and not a loading screen.

32 gigabibbles of ram

 

its a HDD issue, putting a game on my SSD gives me no problems but i dont have enough room for putting games on my ssd.

[JaegerB]

10 minutes ago, Wi RoZ said:

As long as your OS is installed on the SSD (which I assume it is) then your HDD shouldn't be the problem. If you run some antivirus program like Norton or Kaspersky, try to let them run in silent/stealth-mode when gaming.

Don't get me started on Norton. Utter trash.

[wuder4]

Games on both SSD and HDD lag. No ping issues. OS was not reinstalled and is on SSD.

[Wi RoZ]

Just now, JaegerB said:

Don't get me started on Norton. Utter trash.

Haha, I understand why you would say that. Personally got a love-hate relationship with Norton. Lately it seems pretty stable, but not long ago I had major back-up problems trying to use an external HDD. Besides that, there is a lot more that they need to fix. User experience is just to much hassle for the regular PC-owner. But when it finally works, it does it's job pretty good.

[Matias_Chambers]

What games are you talking about? i5's run at 90-100% usage in many games which can cause stuttering and bottlenecking. Make sure you don't have anything open that uses a lot of CPU while gaming.

[Wi RoZ]

1 minute ago, wuder4 said:

Games on both SSD and HDD lag. No ping issues. OS was not reinstalled and is on SSD.

Did you ever change any boot settings like the amount of cores it uses and the like?

[bcguru9384]

1 minute ago, wuder4 said:

Games on both SSD and HDD lag. No ping issues. OS was not reinstalled and is on SSD.

have you checked hdd fragmentation???

try sfc scan from cmd prompt

would not hurt to run a registry scan for broken links

[JaegerB]

Just now, Wi RoZ said:

Haha, I understand why you would say that. Personally got a love-hate relationship with Norton. Lately it seems pretty stable, but not long ago I had major back-up problems trying to use an external HDD. Besides that, there is a lot more that they need to fix. User experience is just to much hassle for the regular PC-owner. But when it finally works, it does it's job pretty good.

I used to use it as an antivirus, because when I was new to computing a few years ago (lil' twelvie), I thought I'd need it. Nope. Consistently deleted downloads from sites that were in no way shifty, marked existing files as dangerous, and on occasion deleted games like CS:GO (obtained legitimately thru steam) when starting them up. Since then, I haven't used an antivirus. I get that they're useful if you do things like banking, high security work etc. on your computer but for my use, I follow my saying of "the best antivirus is common sense".

[wuder4]

1 minute ago, Matias_Chambers said:

What games are you talking about? i5's run at 90-100% usage in many games which can cause stuttering and bottlenecking. Make sure you don't have anything open that uses a lot of CPU while gaming.

League of legens, Sainst row 4, Pubg... During SR4 i was watching my task manager and CPU was around 75% and when fps lag happened CPU usage dropped to ~15%

[wuder4]

4 minutes ago, Wi RoZ said:

Did you ever change any boot settings like the amount of cores it uses and the like?

Didnt change anything in BIOS about CPU and in task manager it shows all 4 cores working equally.

[Wi RoZ]

5 minutes ago, wuder4 said:

League of legens, Sainst row 4, Pubg... During SR4 i was watching my task manager and CPU was around 75% and when fps lag happened CPU usage dropped to ~15%

Ah, so the CPU usage drops! Then it is not CPU related. When FPS lag occurs, the CPU demand is temporarily lower which makes perfect sense. Has to do with something else then. Not sure what though

 

EDIT

 

Have you tried to reinstall the GPU drivers? Could be a corrupted driver (install)

[wuder4]

1 minute ago, Wi RoZ said:

Ah, so the CPU usage drops! Then it is not CPU related. When FPS lag occurs, the CPU demand is temporarily lower which makes perfect sense. Has to do with something else then. Not sure what though

GPU usage is always stable. It has no drops or peaks while gaming.

 

[Wi RoZ]

1 minute ago, wuder4 said:

GPU usage is always stable. It has no drops or peaks while gaming.

 

So GPU usage is stable, CPU usage drops during FPS lag and doesn't spike just before that happens. It doesn't happen while stress-testing. Have you tried checking the integrity of your OS? On win8/10 you can do that by opening CMD in adminmode and entering /dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth

[wuder4]

17 hours ago, Wi RoZ said:

So GPU usage is stable, CPU usage drops during FPS lag and doesn't spike just before that happens. It doesn't happen while stress-testing. Have you tried checking the integrity of your OS? On win8/10 you can do that by opening CMD in adminmode and entering /dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth

Tried cleaning OS and changing anti virus to game mode. Still having fps issues. HDD is 6% fragmented.

[Gerarrr]

Try chkdsk [disk letter] /f please. It still looks like file's integrity issue.

[wuder4]

20 hours ago, Gerarrr said:

Try chkdsk [disk letter] /f please. It still looks like file's integrity issue.

Did that for the HDD and still had issues. Since both SSD and HDD lag don't know if its that simple.