New CPU + GPU

[MasterBleckieChan]

Hello, 

I have to rebuild my Computer. And I'm not sure what CPU and GPU I should pick up. 

I currently have a i5-4570 with 16 GB of RAM. My budget is ~ 900 Euros (1000$). 

Someone gave me the advice I should go with an i7-4790k and a GTX 1080. That not only exceed my budget but I'm not sure if that is the way to go. 

Would it be a smart move to go with an 4 Gen. Chip when 8. Gen is coming up soon. And the i7-4790k coasts more than an i7-7700k but is weeker too. 

So the only argument for the i7-4790k would be that I don't have to spend a large amount of money on a motherboard and RAM. 

And depending on the part I have to spend on the CPU (+mainboard + RAM) I would choose the GPU (I thought I would go for a GTX 1070 cause I think that's the best allrounder that doesn't cost too much) 

 

I mostly play FPSs like Rainbow Six Siege, Battlefield 4 and GTA at 1440p with 144 Hrz. 

 

Thanks for your answeres! 

[WereCat]

7700k is just marginally faster than the 4790k and you will need new motherboard and DDR4 as well if you go that route.

So it is either 4790k or Ryzen 5/7.

 

[MasterBleckieChan]

3 minutes ago, ImHyperstyle said:

what country are you in?

I'm from Austria. Why are you asking? 

[MasterBleckieChan]

2 minutes ago, Leshya said:

Budget and region?

As I said around 900 Euros (~1000$) and Austria. 

[MasterBleckieChan]

1 minute ago, Leshya said:

 

It was so that we can make a parts list appropriate to the price that you could buy it in so that you have a better idea / real view on pricing for the build we make.

 

Just now, ImHyperstyle said:

shipping

I understand. Great attention to detail! 

[MasterBleckieChan]

Just now, ImHyperstyle said:

do you need a case? storage? and whats your psu?

I have a 500 GB Samsung EVO SSD that is more than enough for me. The PSU is a Corsair 750i. And my current case shoud get the job done. 

[MasterBleckieChan]

1 minute ago, ImHyperstyle said:

atx m-atx mini itx?

You mean the motherboard I have right now or what I would prefer for the future? 

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, Leshya said:

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (€199.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€98.75 @ Mindfactory) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€149.91 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU800 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€59.47 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€67.90 @ Caseking) 
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Mini Video Card  (€283.94 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: Fractal Design - Core 2300 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€48.14 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: BitFenix - Whisper M 450W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€80.90 @ Caseking) 
Total: €989.00

I agree with this build, unless the OP wants to upgrade his current PC, he can get a used 4790K ($250-300) and a GTX 1080 

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/HDvZxr/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1080-8gb-turbo-oc-video-card-gv-n1080ttoc-8gd

[MasterBleckieChan]

2 minutes ago, ImHyperstyle said:

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/bT7dRG

 

 

Wow thank you! Let me have a look 

[MasterBleckieChan]

1 minute ago, ImHyperstyle said:

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/Fxdfbj fixed

A storage isn't necessary. I have more than enough of it. 

[MasterBleckieChan]

3 minutes ago, ImHyperstyle said:

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/DR9BVY

Thank you! 

[MasterBleckieChan]

10 minutes ago, ImHyperstyle said:

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/DR9BVY

You would rather go with a Ryazen than a i5-6600k? 

[MasterBleckieChan]

5 hours ago, Leshya said:

Yes R5-1600, and get a better 1070, probably EVGA, they are quieter and have better cooling.

Yeah I looked a little bit into the various types of 1070s and read that the Zotec Extreme & ASUS should be very decent. I think I will go with one of these, or do you have any specific recommendations? 

[Sanctorum]

What motherboard and case do you currently own? Also what Corsair PSU? 

[MasterBleckieChan]

2 hours ago, Sanctorum said:

What motherboard and case do you currently own? Also what Corsair PSU? 

I'm gonna list all of my computer components: 

Case: Corsair CC-9011012-WW Carbide Series 500R

SSD: Samsung Evo 500 GB

Motherboard: ASUS Z97 K

CPU: intel i5-4570

RAM: 16 GB DDR3 RAM 

CPU cooler: be quiet! BK019 Dark Rock Pro 3

Graphics card: ASUS Strix GTX 980 Ti (but I have to return it) 

PSU: Corsair RM 750i

 

I hope I haven't forgotten something important 

[MasterBleckieChan]

8 minutes ago, Leshya said:

ANY Evga or zotac cards, they are simple and work well. You can't go wrong with them. I feel like ASUS just charges premium for "gamer" atheistics.

Totally agree with you there but I'm thinking to upgrade to a case with a glass panel and put the PC on my desk sometimes... so I probably should care about that.

But on the GPU I will decide later, the CPU comes first

[Sanctorum]

Don't bother with Ryzen. You can grab a used 4770k or 4790k for less than 300 euros. Either of which would be more than adequate and save you a bunch of money. As for GPU, GTX 1080 is not an upgrade from a 980Ti. I wouldn't bother 'uograding' unless you get a 1080Ti.

[MasterBleckieChan]

1 minute ago, Sanctorum said:

Don't bother with Ryzen. You can grab a used 4770k or 4790k for less than 300 euros. Either of which would be more than adequate and save you a bunch of money. As for GPU, GTX 1080 is not an upgrade from a 980Ti. I wouldn't bother 'uograding' unless you get a 1080Ti.

My 980Ti is broke so I have to "upgrade" or at least buy a new one 

[MasterBleckieChan]

10 minutes ago, Sanctorum said:

Don't bother with Ryzen. You can grab a used 4770k or 4790k for less than 300 euros. Either of which would be more than adequate and save you a bunch of money. As for GPU, GTX 1080 is not an upgrade from a 980Ti. I wouldn't bother 'uograding' unless you get a 1080Ti.

And I wouldn't gain much from both of these chips... I thought that a 1600X overclocked would be the best solution

[Sanctorum]

2 hours ago, MasterBleckieChan said:

My 980Ti is broke so I have to "upgrade" or at least buy a new one 

RMA it? Unless you broke it and they won't replace/fix it. Then you can get a GTX 1080 for 600 euros, which youd be able to afford if you get a used 4770k/4790k.

2 hours ago, MasterBleckieChan said:

And I wouldn't gain much from both of these chips... I thought that a 1600X overclocked would be the best solution

Yes, you would. You would get hyper threading. With a 1600x you'll be losing gaming performance. If you specifically needed some newer features that you don't get with LGA1150 and/or really needed better multithreaded performance where Ryzen does pull ahead of a Haswell i7, then sure go R5. However, Haswell i7 is more than capable, still performs better than Ryzen in the majority of games and is cheaper.

[MasterBleckieChan]

3 hours ago, Sanctorum said:

RMA it? Unless you broke it and they won't replace/fix it. Then you can get a GTX 1080 for 600 euros, which youd be able to afford if you get a used 4770k/4790k.

Yes, you would. You would get hyper threading. With a 1600x you'll be losing gaming performance. If you specifically needed some newer features that you don't get with LGA1150 and/or really needed better multithreaded performance where Ryzen does pull ahead of a Haswell i7, then sure go R5. However, Haswell i7 is more than capable, still performs better than Ryzen in the majority of games and is cheaper.

That's why I'm probably going for the 1080. I get back 900 Euros and the 1080 only costs 600 so I'm actually saving 300 Bucks and still getting better performance. 

And an i7-4790 wouldn't bottleneck such a high-end Graphics card? 

 

[Sanctorum]

48 minutes ago, MasterBleckieChan said:

That's why I'm probably going for the 1080. I get back 900 Euros and the 1080 only costs 600 so I'm actually saving 300 Bucks and still getting better performance. 

And an i7-4790 wouldn't bottleneck such a high-end Graphics card? 

 

Nope, don't get a 4790 though, get a 4790k. Make sure you get the unlocked variant. 

[MasterBleckieChan]

2 hours ago, Sanctorum said:

Nope, don't get a 4790 though, get a 4790k. Make sure you get the unlocked variant. 

I looked into CPUs the last few horses and now I ended up pretty confused and unsatisfied... but it feels like I should just go with a Razon and OC it...  but I'm super uncertain....