Adobe Editing PC Questions

[FoxWarder]

Hello everyone.

 

My brother has asked me to help him put together an editing PC. He also plans to do a bit of streaming on it but not for gaming.

 

I am not a video editor myself, so I asked him what software he uses so that I can best help determine what parts he needs.

 

Primarily he uses Adobe Premiere Pro and Lightroom.

 

I was originally going to throw together something Ryzen based with a 1060 6GB (or maybe just a 1050ti).

 

However I've been poking around and I've learned that Adobe and Lightroom benefit from single core clock speeds depending on their use case (thus favoring Intel). I've also learned that Adobe has several effects that are CUDA accelerated and that something more like a 980ti would be more useful than a 1060.

 

Now I'm struggling to really nail down just what the kind of performance difference I get between different parts.

 

Here is what I'm considering.

 

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7820X 3.6GHz 8-Core Processor  ($659.99 @ Amazon) OR Intel - Core i7-7700k 4.2GHz 4-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC - Liquid Freezer 240 74.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($81.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - X299 Taichi ATX LGA2066 Motherboard  ($280.99 @ SuperBiiz) OR ASRock - Z270 Taichi ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($225.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 960 PRO 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($279.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($66.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: Fractal Design - Define C ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home Full - USB 32/64-bit  ($102.89 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Dell - U3415W 34.0" 3440x1440 60Hz Monitor  ($670.00 @ B&H)

 

What kind of speed difference is there between a 7700k and a 7820X really? I mean synthetically and on charts clearly the 7820X but in reality, how much actual time - in seconds or minutes, are we talking about in terms of ability to encode and handle workflow?

 

What kind of GPU should I put into the system? 980Ti? 1060 6GB? 1050ti?

 

If I threw in an 1800x and a B350 mobo would it be appreciably slower?

 

He'll be doing content creation in 4k, mostly short videos for things like Youtube. However, having never done something like this, I really don't know just what kind of value I'm getting for the listed parts.

 

I'd like it to be less expensive if possible, but I'd rather not sacrifice performance in the name of being cheap.

 

In other words: Where's the sweet spot for Adobe and Lightroom?

 

Gaming is not a concern here at all.

[DocSwag]

I would go for a 7800x for CPU instead. Swap the ssd for a 960 evo and also get 4x8gb ram for quad channel. Get a better psu since NEX isn't very good and then use whatever money you have left for the gpu.

[Septimus]

Here is something that will provide similar performance for less money: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Septimus/saved/xnCBmG

- Overclock the 1700 for performance equal to that of an 1800X

 

Does anyone know how much the software favors single core performance though? If it severely favors single core performance and greatly benefits from CUDA acceleration, I would recomend getting an i7, overlocking it, and then getting something like a used 980 Ti like you mentioned. 

 

[DrMacintosh]

Is he only working in Lightroom? If he uses Premiere and AfterEffects the Ryzen system would be much better. 

[Colexd]

Get the 1700 over the x299 platform. It costs what,  like more than twice the price?

[FoxWarder]

Hey there.

 

I actually use an oc'd 1700 on my own computer. I got lucky and can hit 4.0 without cranking the voltage really at all.

 

That said, I wasn't sure if lightning would strike twice and I'd be able to bit that speed on another chip. Since it's not my money at risk I felt it safer to rock an 1800x for the sure thing.

 

I was very much going to just go Ryzen for this build but apparently lightroom is lightly threaded and Adobe also prefers the faster clocks over more threads. Maybe that will change in the future but for now that seems to be the case.

 

What I'm really after are times. Does anyone use these programs on recent hardware? How long does it take to accomplish certain tasks?

 

Also at @DocSwag

 What benefits will quad channel yield?

[DocSwag]

11 hours ago, FoxWarder said:

Hey there.

 

I actually use an oc'd 1700 on my own computer. I got lucky and can hit 4.0 without cranking the voltage really at all.

 

That said, I wasn't sure if lightning would strike twice and I'd be able to bit that speed on another chip. Since it's not my money at risk I felt it safer to rock an 1800x for the sure thing.

 

I was very much going to just go Ryzen for this build but apparently lightroom is lightly threaded and Adobe also prefers the faster clocks over more threads. Maybe that will change in the future but for now that seems to be the case.

 

What I'm really after are times. Does anyone use these programs on recent hardware? How long does it take to accomplish certain tasks?

 

Also at @DocSwag

 What benefits will quad channel yield?

Pretty much all 1700s can at least reach 3.9 ghz.

 

Quad channel would give you more memory bandwidth, so in memory bandwidth bound situations it would give a nice performance boost.