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Would i lose in any aspect if i change to the Ryzen R5 1600x from my current FX 8350, since the FX is an OCTA Core and the 1600x has 6 cores, would i come out losing performance in any way, or is it just a simple good upgrade ?

im trying to come up with the answer myself, but i havent been able to come to a solid conclusion, so im asking.

EDIT: maybe it should be obvious to me that theres no question, the upgrade is absolutely worth it, but no, i am not that sure to the point of buying it withou asking first.

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The 1600 is a HUGE upgrade! FX cores are crap ;)

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1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

The 1600 is a HUGE upgrade! FX cores are crap ;)

yeah 

Cores mean basically nothing when I think about a processor, by that i mean I never weigh them without asking the internet :P 

i5 6600k and GTX 1070 but I play 1600-900. 1440p BABY!

Still, don't put too much faith in my buying decisions. xD 

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3 minutes ago, charrst said:

I went from the 8350 to the R5 1600 pretty recently. Going from 8 dated threads to 12 modern threads is a significant improvement.

I've got a friend still running an 8350 and he refuses to upgrade because he thinks the performance increase will be minimal.

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Yea, it'll be a huge upgrade. Even a 4c/8t R5 would be a huge upgrade from any FX. With a 4c/8t R5 you'd probably get about the same multithreaded performance but better single threaded performance and lower power. A hexacore R5 will be better all the way around. Even the 4-thread R3 will give about the same multi-threaded performance with better single-threaded at almost half the power. Personally I'd say just go with a 6c/12t R5 to really make it worth the money to upgrade but yea, it's worth it.

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No, you wouldn't lose anything. The pure power gain isn't incredibly large but in actual use it will be significantly better on most fronts and worse in none.

5 minutes ago, Max_Settings said:

Cores means nothing. IPC is what affects performance. The R5 1600 is MUCH faster than a 8350. 8350 is a 5 year old CPU. Just remember you need a new board and RAM.

Well, I wouldn't say cores don't count while ipc does... they both affect performance in different ways. As for the age, that wouldn't really change much given that we are only seeing a big change from amd in the last few months and intel hasn't really moved forward since sandy bridge. Now is really the first time in 6 years where it makes sense to upgrade 2011 cpus and move to ryzen.

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That will be a nice upgrade, the R5 1600x is much faster, not to mention much more efficient.

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1 minute ago, charrst said:

But the 8350 isn't even a full octa core CPU in the first place. Pairs of cores in the 8350 share certain resources. AMD's solution is a little better than just having four cores, but in many cases the 8350 acts like a quad core CPU. Throw in the significantly higher IPC of the Ryzen chips, 6 full cores, and 50% more threads than the 8350, and you can see a very big difference in performance. I dealt with a number of CPU bottlenecks with my old 8350, but now that I've upgraded to the R5 1600, those are no longer an issue.

Your preaching to the choir, I've tried everything but he still uses the FX

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4 minutes ago, Icuw1pc said:

Your preaching to the choir, I've tried everything but he still uses the FX

To be fair, if it still works well for him then there's no reason to upgrade until he feels he needs to. I still have 2PCs running FX (my HTPC using an 8320 paired with a GTX760, and my FreeNAS/VM using an 8120 with onboard GPU) and they work fine for those uses.

 

Unless his CPU is a bottleneck for his GPU or the programs he uses are giving him performance issues then he might not need an upgrade.

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Having issues with a Corsair AIO? Possible fix here:

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Are you getting weird fan behavior, speed fluctuations, and/or other issues with Link?

Are you running AIDA64, HWinfo, CAM, or HWmonitor? (ASUS suite & other monitoring software often have the same issue.)

Corsair Link has problems with some monitoring software so you may have to change some settings to get them to work smoothly.

-For AIDA64: First make sure you have the newest update installed, then, go to Preferences>Stability and make sure the "Corsair Link sensor support" box is checked and make sure the "Asetek LC sensor support" box is UNchecked.

-For HWinfo: manually disable all monitoring of the AIO sensors/components.

-For others: Disable any monitoring of Corsair AIO sensors.

That should fix the fan issue for some Corsair AIOs (H80i GT/v2, H110i GTX/H115i, H100i GTX and others made by Asetek). The problem is bad coding in Link that fights for AIO control with other programs. You can test if this worked by setting the fan speed in Link to 100%, if it doesn't fluctuate you are set and can change the curve to whatever. If that doesn't work or you're still having other issues then you probably still have a monitoring software interfering with the AIO/Link communications, find what it is and disable it.

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