1080Ti Low Frames

[TheTradesman]

Hey Guys,

 

Having some issues with my setup, I've gone through my build thoroughly and cant seem to find whats the cause to my problem. Basically I recently updated from a GTX680 Lighting as it was time for an upgrade and wish to play current titles at higher frames. So after waiting for the Ti i to be realised i decided now was the best time to do so. After installing the card and reinstalling drivers i played some PUBG and BF1 + BF 4 to find the games seemed to run smoother and I didn't think much of it. 

 

Since then however after playing over a weekend i noticed alot of stuttering and tearing which made me wonder what the FPS was doing to cause this. So i booted up afterburner and had a look at the readings. To my surprise i found the card performing only marginally better than my 680 was. I played around with the settings and checked a few different games and different FPS counters all giving similar reasons. In BF1 i was getting  around 80 FPS at 1080p on a 144hz moniter which I know i should be getting far more. 

 

I reformatted my drive and performed a fresh install of windows 10 full updated it reloaded all my games and began to try again. As before i am getting no where near the frames i should be for my rig. I have watched the specs and for BF1 it seems that my CPU is running around the 70% mark down from 90% before the clean install however my graphics card is sitting at around 60% usage. I have tried changing my NVIDIA power settings I've double checked V-sync, i've removed my thunderbolt card, i re-sat all my hardware before and after the clean install of windows including my RAM (which when changing lanes I gained around a 5% increase), i have the latest drivers and latest updates to windows 10. 

 

I have tried all I can think of to increase the frames to no avail. This is happening across all my games and was hoping to upgrade to a 2k Monitor shortly however now i'm wondering if i'm bottlenecked somewhere and should be upgrading gear first?. My understanding is that a 6700 should be enough to play AA games with good frames however doing some reading my card should be pushing close to 200 FPS in BF1 and around 120 in PUBG ( I know this is a bad example due to optimisation in Beta). 
 

My 3D Mark benchmark was around 8400 mark on Spy Simulation which i don't think is a bad reading however doesn't explain poor frames in game. If someone has some advice i'd be very thankful as I'm out of ideas unless its a hardware element I'm over looking.

 

My rig is as follows.

 

Msi GTX1080Ti Gaming 11gb 

Asus Rog Ranger VIII Motherboard

Intel I7 6700 (Non K Edition)

Samsung 250 GB SSD

Barracuda 2 TB HD

G-Skill Ripjawz 4 3300 Mhz Ram

850w PSU

ASUS ThuderboltEx 3 Card

 

[Princess Luna]

You just forgot to DDU in Safe mode and reinstall the nVidia drivers fresh new.

[TheTradesman]

DDU? I formatted and reinstalled would safemode make any difference to that?

[Zando_]

12 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

You just forgot to DDU in Safe mode and reinstall the nVidia drivers fresh new.

 

10 minutes ago, TheTradesman said:

DDU? I formatted and reinstalled would safemode make any difference to that?

Quote peeps so they see your reply.

 

And I think reinstalling does the same thing. I’d try it anyways though, just to make absolutely sure it isn’t a driver problem. 

[roylapoutre]

I know this might be an obvious thing to bring up, but did you verify in the Nvidia Control Panel that the right refresh rate was selected ? I know, if you disable Vsync everywhere, it shouldn't matter, the frames should be displayed even if 60Hz is selected, but I've seen so many weird stuff with this, it might be worth to just check.

[PeachyUwUSenpai]

its probably set to higher settings now thus same frame rate 

[TheTradesman]

1 minute ago, Alaradia said:

its probably set to higher settings now thus same frame rate 

 

2 minutes ago, roylapoutre said:

I know this might be an obvious thing to bring up, but did you verify in the Nvidia Control Panel that the right refresh rate was selected ? I know, if you disable Vsync everywhere, it shouldn't matter, the frames should be displayed even if 60Hz is selected, but I've seen so many weird stuff with this, it might be worth to just check.

 

Yes i've double checked the frames on control panel thanks for the advice though.

 

It is running higher settings but even so a 1080Ti should be pushing well above 80 FPS in maxxed out settings keep in mind its running 1080p i know this card can run 60 - 80 FPS in 4K with high settings on the frostbite engine.

[PeachyUwUSenpai]

are you using the latest drivers maybe try beta drivers if so 

[TheTradesman]

SOLVED!!! After a solid afternoon of trial and error I've fixed it. I closed Geforce Experience and removed it from start up. Suddenly my CPU has dropped from running almost flat out to sitting at 60% my card is now running at 80% and all games are runnings capped at 144 FPS on Ultra. If anyone can explain this to me I'd love to know how a NVIDIA bundled program can draw so much on the system and yet not show on task manager doing so. If i were to guess it would have something to do with its overlay feature? Is this a bug or a common occurrence and I've just missed the memo.

[DoctorZeus]

19 minutes ago, TheTradesman said:

SOLVED!!! After a solid afternoon of trial and error I've fixed it. I closed Geforce Experience and removed it from start up. Suddenly my CPU has dropped from running almost flat out to sitting at 60% my card is now running at 80% and all games are runnings capped at 144 FPS on Ultra. If anyone can explain this to me I'd love to know how a NVIDIA bundled program can draw so much on the system and yet not show on task manager doing so. If i were to guess it would have something to do with its overlay feature? Is this a bug or a common occurrence and I've just missed the memo.

the share feature for shadowplay might havr been slowing you  down. 

[Darkseth]

But you have a 2k Monitor already^^ (2k = 1080p)

Ok enough nitpicking

 

Shadowplay or anything might have been running.. Probably Overlay.

Should not happen I deactivated it in GFE, and never had a Problem. My 1080 always runs at max usage, except CPU Bottleneck.

[mrthuvi]

1 hour ago, TheTradesman said:

SOLVED!!! After a solid afternoon of trial and error I've fixed it. I closed Geforce Experience and removed it from start up. Suddenly my CPU has dropped from running almost flat out to sitting at 60% my card is now running at 80% and all games are runnings capped at 144 FPS on Ultra. If anyone can explain this to me I'd love to know how a NVIDIA bundled program can draw so much on the system and yet not show on task manager doing so. If i were to guess it would have something to do with its overlay feature? Is this a bug or a common occurrence and I've just missed the memo.

Shadow play. Basically it records everything you play, and keep the latest 10 (? or 20?) minutes should you want to upload a clip to the internet at the cost of 10% or so performance. 

 

Task manager doesn't record gpu usage so it wouldn't show up there. 

[TheTradesman]

1 hour ago, Darkseth said:

But you have a 2k Monitor already^^ (2k = 1080p)

Ok enough nitpicking

 

Shadowplay or anything might have been running.. Probably Overlay.

Should not happen I deactivated it in GFE, and never had a Problem. My 1080 always runs at max usage, except CPU Bottleneck.

I'm pretty sure 2560 x 1440 is 2k hence the 2k abbreviation though it doesnt apply directly to 4k as technically 4 k is 3840 x 2160. 

[TheTradesman]

1 hour ago, mrthuvi said:

Shadow play. Basically it records everything you play, and keep the latest 10 (? or 20?) minutes should you want to upload a clip to the internet at the cost of 10% or so performance. 

 

Task manager doesn't record gpu usage so it wouldn't show up there. 

mm was weird though because it was dragging my CPU down rather than my GPU causing the bottleneck causing my GPU to idle.

[Darkseth]

1 hour ago, TheTradesman said:

I'm pretty sure 2560 x 1440 is 2k hence the 2k abbreviation though it doesnt apply directly to 4k as technically 4 k is 3840 x 2160. 

Many people do refer to 2k as 2560x1440, but that is technically simply wrong. 

 

2k = 1080p.

 

If 2160p is 4k, than 2k HAS to be 1080p. Because it has halved Sides. And 4k halved is... 2k. ^^ 3840 halved is... 1920.

If 1080p is not 2k, then 2160p is also not 4k. ^^

 

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