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go for more capacity that will be a better long term thing than a slightly faster drive. Speaking of which is there any SSHD which have a higher RPM than 5400RPM, as that is great and all when you anit using the entire 8GB of SSD storage, but as soon as you will be sower than a 7200 or higher drive. so is there any 7200RPM SSHD, cause otherwise I canny see the point in them, just add a small 32GB SSD cache onto a normal HDD, bigger and might be just as cost efficient as that 32GB could serve several HDDs

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1 minute ago, grimreeper132 said:

go for more capacity that will be a better long term thing than a slightly faster drive. Speaking of which is there any SSHD which have a higher RPM than 5400RPM, as that is great and all when you anit using the entire 8GB of SSD storage, but as soon as you will be sower than a 7200 or higher drive. so is there any 7200RPM SSHD, cause otherwise I canny see the point in them, just add a small 32GB SSD cache onto a normal HDD

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/seagate-firecuda-2tb-internal-sata-hybrid-hard-drive-for-desktops/5657978.p?skuId=5657978&ref=199&loc=8BacdVP0GFs&acampID=1&siteID=8BacdVP0GFs-Xol0WECu96RGPn5kgvDKTw

7200 rpm sshd

 

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SSHD are great for only one purpose: if you don't have an SSD for your OS and you are using the SSHD as your main boot drive.

 

The way it works is the SSHD will store your most commonly used files to the 8GB flash portion of the drive for faster read times in the future...so for example after 3 or 4 boot you will have on there the files used for windows boot, drivers and your most commonly used applications...so, your PC after 3 or 4 boot will boot faster, almost as fast as if your windows was installed on a SSD...so...for budget build where the SSD is not an option, SSHD can be great...

 

BUT...if you use this for mass storage, or to install many games and programs and stuff...it won't be of any help over a standard 7200RPM drive.

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I was going to be getting a 1tb m.2, the sshd were going to be for storage 

1 minute ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

SSHD are great for only one purpose: if you don't have an SSD for your OS and you are using the SSHD as your main boot drive.

 

The way it works is the SSHD will store your most commonly used files to the 8GB flash portion of the drive for faster read times in the future...so for example after 3 or 4 boot you will have on there the files used for windows boot, drivers and your most commonly used applications...so, your PC after 3 or 4 boot will boot faster, almost as fast as if your windows was installed on a SSD...so...for budget build where the SSD is not an option, SSHD can be great...

 

BUT...if you use this for mass storage, or to install many games and programs and stuff...it won't be of any help over a standard 7200RPM drive.

 

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Just now, Haeking said:

I was going to be getting a 1tb m.2, the sshd were going to be for storage 

 

then you're purely wasting money...get a western digital blue drive instead.

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Just now, Haeking said:

kk actually will get hitachi they are much better 

...yes it's a good option.

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1 hour ago, Haeking said:

ah yea, I forgot to say 2.5" ones but it doesn't matter as I have found one on part picker (the only one available in the uk but still found 1) problem being it's 500GB, so yea I canny get one, as I need 1TB, right normal 2.5" HDD it is (if I can find one at a reasonable price, as the 1TB are about £50, and the 2TB are (£200+, all 7200RPM)

The owner of "too many" computers, called

The Lord of all Toasters (1920X 1080ti 32GB)

The Toasted Controller (i5 4670, R9 380, 24GB)

The Semi Portable Toastie machine (i7 3612QM (was an i3) intel HD 4000 16GB)'

Bread and Butter Pudding (i7 7700HQ, 1050ti, 16GB)

Pinoutbutter Sandwhich (raspberry pi 3 B)

The Portable Slice of Bread (N270, HAHAHA, 2GB)

Muffinator (C2D E6600, Geforce 8400, 6GB, 8X2TB HDD)

Toastbuster (WIP, should be cool)

loaf and let dough (A printer that doesn't print black ink)

The Cheese Toastie (C2D (of some sort), GTX 760, 3GB, win XP gaming machine)

The Toaster (C2D, intel HD, 4GB, 2X1TB NAS)

Matter of Loaf and death (some old shitty AMD laptop)

windybread (4X E5470, intel HD, 32GB ECC) (use coming soon, maybe)

And more, several more

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SSHDs are useful in one scenario: laptops. Even if you have that random oddball case with no 2.5" drive compatibility, they make 2.5" to 3.5" adapters for a few bucks that you can use to mount a far superior SSD. In my experience, the algorithm on SSHDs is hilariously awful. I don't know exactly what files it's pulling to the NAND, but it's definitely not the OS boot files that should go there. They're basically just overpriced HDDs.

 

If you can't afford an SSD up front, just grab the cheapest SATA 6, 7200 RPM, 64MB cache WD, Seagate, Toshiba or Hitachi you can get your hands on that comes with a decent warranty and doesn't have reviews saying that it clicks like a woodpecker

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On 7/27/2017 at 9:39 AM, Haeking said:

Im building a gaming pc and Im wondering should I get 2 tb sshd firecude or just get 1 4tb for a cheaper price 

Hi Haeking,

 

we don't necessarily see this as an either/or decision...

In case you are looking for the best combination of storage capacity AND performance, we would definitely recommend getting a "smaller sized" SSD for OS and frequently used programs in combination with a regular HDD (e.g. a BarraCuda) for storage capacity.

 

In case you are looking for one drive only, SSHDs are not the worst choice: how they work is they use a small SSD cache to intuitively place your most frequently accessed files on, so that you get some of that load-time performance benefit people love about SSD, but also still have a larger spinning disk storage space for the rest of your data so that you still get a solid amount of storage for your money.

If you're interested in seeing how SSHDs stack up against other drive types, here are a couple charts to check out:
The first one compares startup times across several popular games across a traditional spinning 7200 RPM HDD, our SSHD, and an M.2 SSD (128GB). The white is for SSD, the orange for our SSHD, and the grey for the 7200 spinning HDD.
 
Startup Times
 
The next one compares the first 3 days of gaming storage utilization across several popular titles, and SYSmark ratings from various drive types and combinations. First of the grays is 7200 RPM 1TB spinning HDD, second (lightest gray) is our SSHD, third (darkest gray) is an SSD + 7200 RPM HDD combo, purple is SSD + our SSHD combo, and lastly, blue is SSD.
 
First 3 Days Gaming Storage Utilization
 
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