Cooling a 4790K

[Spork829]

I've been meaning to upgrade my locked i5 for a while now, and I've finally saved up some money to dedicate to my PC. I bought a Z97 board a while ago specifically so that I can move to a 4790K. However, I'm really not sure what the best cooling solution would be.

 

First off, I'm probably going to run it at stock at least for the time being, because it's going to be overpowered for what I do right now so I currently would get very little benefit from an OC. So... do you guys think my Hyper 212 could manage to cool it at stock while not getting loud?

 

Assuming not, and I need a new cooler, I'm basically looking for the best mix between good cooling performance and acoustics. I'm willing to sacrifice a couple hundred MHz on the OC I'll eventually do for it to remain quieter. I'd like not to spend over $100 (US) on the cooler. So what's my best bet? Air or water? Thoughts? Thanks  

 

 

[CyberFern0]

1 minute ago, Spork829 said:

I've been meaning to upgrade my locked i5 for a while now, and I've finally saved up some money to dedicate to my PC. I bought a Z97 board a while ago specifically so that I can move to a 4790K. However, I'm really not sure what the best cooling solution would be.

 

First off, I'm probably going to run it at stock at least for the time being, because it's going to be overpowered for what I do right now so I currently would get very little benefit from an OC. So... do you guys think my Hyper 212 could manage to cool it at stock while not getting loud?

 

Assuming not, and I need a new cooler, I'm basically looking for the best mix between good cooling performance and acoustics. I'm willing to sacrifice a couple hundred MHz on the OC I'll eventually do for it to remain quieter. I'd like not to spend over $100 (US) on the cooler. So what's my best bet? Air or water? Thoughts? Thanks  

 

 

air if not oc

[W-L]

1 minute ago, Spork829 said:

I've been meaning to upgrade my locked i5 for a while now, and I've finally saved up some money to dedicate to my PC. I bought a Z97 board a while ago specifically so that I can move to a 4790K. However, I'm really not sure what the best cooling solution would be.

 

First off, I'm probably going to run it at stock at least for the time being, because it's going to be overpowered for what I do right now so I currently would get very little benefit from an OC. So... do you guys think my Hyper 212 could manage to cool it at stock while not getting loud?

 

Assuming not, and I need a new cooler, I'm basically looking for the best mix between good cooling performance and acoustics. I'm willing to sacrifice a couple hundred MHz on the OC I'll eventually do for it to remain quieter. I'd like not to spend over $100 (US) on the cooler. So what's my best bet? Air or water? Thoughts? Thanks  

Stock and even light overclocking will be good on it, but if you want to maximize cooling potential a dual rad cooler like a 280mm unit, Karaken X61/62 would be good. 

[OsuMasterz]

2 minutes ago, Spork829 said:

I've been meaning to upgrade my locked i5 for a while now, and I've finally saved up some money to dedicate to my PC. I bought a Z97 board a while ago specifically so that I can move to a 4790K. However, I'm really not sure what the best cooling solution would be.

 

First off, I'm probably going to run it at stock at least for the time being, because it's going to be overpowered for what I do right now so I currently would get very little benefit from an OC. So... do you guys think my Hyper 212 could manage to cool it at stock while not getting loud?

 

Assuming not, and I need a new cooler, I'm basically looking for the best mix between good cooling performance and acoustics. I'm willing to sacrifice a couple hundred MHz on the OC I'll eventually do for it to remain quieter. I'd like not to spend over $100 (US) on the cooler. So what's my best bet? Air or water? Thoughts? Thanks  

 

 

It's good enough for a mild overclock, something in the neighborhood of 4.5-4.6GHZ should be the max you should overclock it to with that kind of cooler. Personally, I would get a Cryorig C7 because of the style, and a very minimal temp improvement.

[Vegetable]

I ran mine with a 212 evo and did 4.5Ghz at like 70c under load. Then I got a kraken x61 and my chip still only does 4.5ghz...

[Spork829]

30 minutes ago, W-L said:

Stock and even light overclocking will be good on it, but if you want to maximize cooling potential a dual rad cooler like a 280mm unit, Karaken X61/62 would be good. 

 

31 minutes ago, CyberFern0 said:

air if not oc

 

30 minutes ago, OsuMasterz said:

It's good enough for a mild overclock, something in the neighborhood of 4.5-4.6GHZ should be the max you should overclock it to with that kind of cooler. Personally, I would get a Cryorig C7 because of the style, and a very minimal temp improvement.

If I'm buying a new cooler then I'll go with something more powerful than the C7. Cryorig R1 is one I'm considering though.

 

17 minutes ago, Vegetable said:

I ran mine with a 212 evo and did 4.5Ghz at like 70c under load. Then I got a kraken x61 and my chip still only does 4.5ghz...

How loud was it though? If that's close to max fan speed I'm not down

[aisle9]

32 minutes ago, OsuMasterz said:

It's good enough for a mild overclock, something in the neighborhood of 4.5-4.6GHZ should be the max you should overclock it to with that kind of cooler. Personally, I would get a Cryorig C7 because of the style, and a very minimal temp improvement.

Pretty sure you mean the H7. The C7 would be a terrible choice for cooling an OC'ed 4790K.

 

@Spork829, I've used three different coolers for some significant length of time on a 4790K. The first was an H7, which performed admirably up to about 4.6GHz and then started to overheat. The second was an H5 Ultimate and boy howdy, let me tell you that thing was a value king. 4.6 was stable and toasty, 4.7 required a wee bit much voltage on my CPU (1.27v) for a comfortable temperature. The final cooler on it was a Kraken X61. No regerts on spending that money. 4.7GHz 24/7 at 1.27v, rarely broke 75C even under full Prime95 small FFTs load.

 

The 4790K is tied to a Hyper T4 now, and it's terrible, but it's also underclocked and undervolted and thoroughly gimped thanks to a wonderful Gigabyte mobo that decided to short out for no discernible reason and cook the CPU. On a non-fragged CPU, I'd expect the T4 to perform somewhere around the level of a 212 EVO, maybe a degree or two warmer.

[Vegetable]

8 minutes ago, aisle9 said:

Pretty sure you mean the H7. The C7 would be a terrible choice for cooling an OC'ed 4790K.

 

@Spork829, I've used three different coolers for some significant length of time on a 4790K. The first was an H7, which performed admirably up to about 4.6GHz and then started to overheat. The second was an H5 Ultimate and boy howdy, let me tell you that thing was a value king. 4.6 was stable and toasty, 4.7 required a wee bit much voltage on my CPU (1.27v) for a comfortable temperature. The final cooler on it was a Kraken X61. No regerts on spending that money. 4.7GHz 24/7 at 1.27v, rarely broke 75C even under full Prime95 small FFTs load.

 

The 4790K is tied to a Hyper T4 now, and it's terrible, but it's also underclocked and undervolted and thoroughly gimped thanks to a wonderful Gigabyte mobo that decided to short out for no discernible reason and cook the CPU. On a non-fragged CPU, I'd expect the T4 to perform somewhere around the level of a 212 EVO, maybe a degree or two warmer.

I need 1.29v for 4.5... must be nice

[W-L]

16 minutes ago, Spork829 said:

If I'm buying a new cooler then I'll go with something more powerful than the C7. Cryorig R1 is one I'm considering though.

How loud was it though? If that's close to max fan speed I'm not down

That depends since it will vary with your case setup, cooling solution, and silicon you get when overclocking. The larger cooling potential though would be a 280mm AIO unit out of all of that to provide silent operation. 

[Spork829]

53 minutes ago, aisle9 said:

Pretty sure you mean the H7. The C7 would be a terrible choice for cooling an OC'ed 4790K.

 

@Spork829, I've used three different coolers for some significant length of time on a 4790K. The first was an H7, which performed admirably up to about 4.6GHz and then started to overheat. The second was an H5 Ultimate and boy howdy, let me tell you that thing was a value king. 4.6 was stable and toasty, 4.7 required a wee bit much voltage on my CPU (1.27v) for a comfortable temperature. The final cooler on it was a Kraken X61. No regerts on spending that money. 4.7GHz 24/7 at 1.27v, rarely broke 75C even under full Prime95 small FFTs load.

 

The 4790K is tied to a Hyper T4 now, and it's terrible, but it's also underclocked and undervolted and thoroughly gimped thanks to a wonderful Gigabyte mobo that decided to short out for no discernible reason and cook the CPU. On a non-fragged CPU, I'd expect the T4 to perform somewhere around the level of a 212 EVO, maybe a degree or two warmer.

Hmm, H5 Ultimate actually looks really good, didn't know about that one.

 

42 minutes ago, W-L said:

That depends since it will vary with your case setup, cooling solution, and silicon you get when overclocking. The larger cooling potential though would be a 280mm AIO unit out of all of that to provide silent operation. 

Would a 280mm AIO be superior to one of the enormous air coolers like an R1 Ultimate, NH-D15, etc? Because I've heard otherwise.

[W-L]

2 minutes ago, Spork829 said:

Hmm, H5 Ultimate actually looks really good, didn't know about that one.

 

Would a 280mm AIO be superior to one of the enormous air coolers like an R1 Ultimate, NH-D15, etc? Because I've heard otherwise.

The NH-D15 is comparable to 240mm and 280mm AIO so they are within the same class. 

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Noctua/NH-D15/8.html

[Spork829]

22 minutes ago, W-L said:

The NH-D15 is comparable to 240mm and 280mm AIO so they are within the same class. 

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Noctua/NH-D15/8.html

Interesting. I think I'll probably go with a large air cooler to save some money.

[Spork829]

2 hours ago, aisle9 said:

Pretty sure you mean the H7. The C7 would be a terrible choice for cooling an OC'ed 4790K.

 

@Spork829, I've used three different coolers for some significant length of time on a 4790K. The first was an H7, which performed admirably up to about 4.6GHz and then started to overheat. The second was an H5 Ultimate and boy howdy, let me tell you that thing was a value king. 4.6 was stable and toasty, 4.7 required a wee bit much voltage on my CPU (1.27v) for a comfortable temperature. The final cooler on it was a Kraken X61. No regerts on spending that money. 4.7GHz 24/7 at 1.27v, rarely broke 75C even under full Prime95 small FFTs load.

 

The 4790K is tied to a Hyper T4 now, and it's terrible, but it's also underclocked and undervolted and thoroughly gimped thanks to a wonderful Gigabyte mobo that decided to short out for no discernible reason and cook the CPU. On a non-fragged CPU, I'd expect the T4 to perform somewhere around the level of a 212 EVO, maybe a degree or two warmer.

So I looked more into it and I think the H5 is the winner here for me. Do you know what the RAM clearance is like on the Ultimate, though? I'll have a DIMM with no cooler on it in the closest slot so I think I'll be okay, but I want to make sure.

[aisle9]

2 minutes ago, Spork829 said:

So I looked more into it and I think the H5 is the winner here for me. Do you know what the RAM clearance is like on the Ultimate, though? I'll have a DIMM with no cooler on it in the closest slot so I think I'll be okay, but I want to make sure.

You'll have to raise the fan, but I think you'll be OK. 

[Spork829]

Just now, aisle9 said:

You'll have to raise the fan, but I think you'll be OK. 

Idk, my case side panel is going to come pretty close to the top of the cooler as is. Is there much of a performance hit going with the Universal version with the thin fan instead?

[aisle9]

10 hours ago, Spork829 said:

Idk, my case side panel is going to come pretty close to the top of the cooler as is. Is there much of a performance hit going with the Universal version with the thin fan instead?

A couple of degrees. Negligible.