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What do I have to add to my distilled water coolant

Whenever I watch any water cooling tutorial videos and coolant is mentioned, they always say that if you use distilled water you're gonna need other stuff for antigrowth and other stuff I think. Can anybody please tell me what you need to add to distilled water for water cooling for to make it ready for water cooling and if it actually matters (which I'm 95% sure doesn't matter) I'm using hard PETG tubing. And if somebody knows I would really like to know how to color the distilled water red.

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1 minute ago, G3ORG3Douj88 said:

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This is the additive you need: https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-cryofuel-blood-red-concentrate-100-ml

Please consider using pre-mixes instead of coming up with homebrew solutions. I will copy-paste my toothpaste analogy if you want to hear it :P

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18 minutes ago, G3ORG3Douj88 said:

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My post above was in all seriousness, but to answer your question the way the distilled community would be satisfied with would be the following:

You will need 2 main components: a biocide, and a corrosion inhibitior.

 

Biocides are used to keep microbial and algael growth at bay. Typical options are Methylisothiazolinone, Benzalkonium chloride, Silver (Silver Kill Coil), and Copper Sulphate (And to a degree, ethylene glycol). Silver and Copper Sulphate are old fashioned ways because they make your fluid electrically conductive and that they are metal ions that may cause problems if you are using certain metals (Nickel and silver, aluminium and copper) for instance. My recommendation is to go for a organic biocide molecule such as methylisothiazolinone or benzalkonium chloride.

 

No matter how much you try to make your loop all copper, all nickel, all aluminium; you will likely have other metals in ways that you don't think about things. Such as brass fittings, stainless steel in your pump, etc. So it is also highly recommended to have a corrosion inhibitor such as benzotriazole.

 

So after saying all of that, I will go back to my post above and say that the EK-CryoFuel has the above two compounds and can be found to be well-documented. Unfortunately other company coolants are poorly documented, so EK-CryoFuel is the only coolant that I can say that uses the relevant compounds mentioned above. If you go for DIY, there are things such as safety (of the stock solutions), pH variance, and solubilty that you need to account for. Since you ive in the modern world and would go buy toothpaste instead of trying to make your own, I would urge you go buy a coolant pre-mix (or concentrate).

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30 minutes ago, For Science! said:

My post above was in all seriousness, but to answer your question the way the distilled community would be satisfied with would be the following:

You will need 2 main components: a biocide, and a corrosion inhibitior.

 

Biocides are used to keep microbial and algael growth at bay. Typical options are Methylisothiazolinone, Benzalkonium chloride, Silver (Silver Kill Coil), and Copper Sulphate (And to a degree, ethylene glycol). Silver and Copper Sulphate are old fashioned ways because they make your fluid electrically conductive and that they are metal ions that may cause problems if you are using certain metals (Nickel and silver, aluminium and copper) for instance. My recommendation is to go for a organic biocide molecule such as methylisothiazolinone or benzalkonium chloride.

 

No matter how much you try to make your loop all copper, all nickel, all aluminium; you will likely have other metals in ways that you don't think about things. Such as brass fittings, stainless steel in your pump, etc. So it is also highly recommended to have a corrosion inhibitor such as benzotriazole.

 

So after saying all of that, I will go back to my post above and say that the EK-CryoFuel has the above two compounds and can be found to be well-documented. Unfortunately other company coolants are poorly documented, so EK-CryoFuel is the only coolant that I can say that uses the relevant compounds mentioned above. If you go for DIY, there are things such as safety (of the stock solutions), pH variance, and solubilty that you need to account for. Since you ive in the modern world and would go buy toothpaste instead of trying to make your own, I would urge you go buy a coolant pre-mix (or concentrate).

Thanks SO much! This really help, but the EK-CryoFuel is only 100 ml, so is that my coolant or is that my coolant additive. If it is the additive then how do I know how much?

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Just now, G3ORG3Douj88 said:

Thanks SO much! This really help, but the EK-CryoFuel is only 100 ml, so is that my coolant or is that my coolant additive. If it is the additive then how do I know how much?

You add the 100 ml to 900 ml of distilled water to make 1 L of coolant. You can also buy 900 ml of the pre-diluted coolant as well if you prefer.

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Just now, For Science! said:

You add the 100 ml to 900 ml of distilled water to make 1 L of coolant. You can also buy 900 ml of the pre-diluted coolant as well if you prefer.

Wait what??? Can you please explain a litttle more, does prediluted coolant mean dilluted water mixed the Cryo-fuel or is it just water with additives mixed already. Sorry I'm asking a lot but you are REALLY helping :)

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You have 2 option for EK-CryoFuel, either buy this:

 

https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-cryofuel-blood-red-premix-900-ml

Which costs a bit more and you "only" get 900 ml for 9 euros, but is ready for use, just pour it into your clean system.

 

Or you buy this: https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-cryofuel-blood-red-concentrate-100-ml

and you mix it in with 900 ml of distilled water (which you will have to get yourself from somewhere) and then you have 1L of coolant

 

Either is fine, depends on whether you have somewhere to buy distilled water.

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1 minute ago, For Science! said:

You have 2 option for EK-CryoFuel, either buy this:

 

https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-cryofuel-blood-red-premix-900-ml

Which costs a bit more and you "only" get 900 ml for 9 euros.

 

Or you buy this: https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-cryofuel-blood-red-concentrate-100-ml

and you mix it in with 900 ml of distilled water (which you will have to get yourself from somewhere) and then you have 1L of coolant

 

Either is fine, depends on whether you have somewhere to buy distilled water.

Ok thanks a LOT, you really helped :)

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2 minutes ago, G3ORG3Douj88 said:

Ok thanks a LOT, you really helped :)

No problem, I think most distilled water purists would not consider the EK-cryofuel concentrate as an "additive"; they would really buy the individual chemicals and add a few drops of them at a time (hence its more of an additive, than a concentrate), but for the reasons I mentioned above its better to get it right with a well-documented coolant with clear instructions with minimal risk of screwing up.

 

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1 minute ago, For Science! said:

No problem, I think most distilled water purists would not consider the EK-cryofuel concentrate as an "additive"; they would really buy the individual chemicals and add a few drops of them at a time (hence its more of an additive, than a concentrate), but for the reasons I mentioned above its better to get it right with a well-documented coolant with clear instructions with minimal risk of screwing up.

 

What I'm gonna do is get 100 ml of the Cyro-fuel and add it to ditilled water that my Dad knows where to get because you did mention that Cyro-Fuel is one of the best if not the best and its from a company so its better than screwing up :) thanks!

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