lets offend the elitists

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There have been elitists on the forum who seem to think that you shouldnt get a good GPU like the 1080 ti if you are gaming at 1080p. Such attitudes shouldnt be tolerated so i made this thread for you to mention things that would offend them. If you have the budget and want a good GPU even if you only have 1080p or even 720p screen or even the old 4:3 1024x768 res and grab a good GPU theres really nothing wrong with that. GPUs nowadays dont only do graphics but do a whole lot of other tasks too.

 

So heres my offending setup to the elitist, i game at 1080p using a titan xp. I have both the titan x pascal and the titan xp and i also game on windows server.

 

Something else thats also offensive, my router has 36 cpu cores (similar to the one facebook uses in their servers)  with 2 SFP+ ports but my internet is only 80Mb/s (down + up).

[RGProductions]

LOLWUT? I game at 1080p with a GTX 660 lol and I'm fine

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Psshh, CSGO professionals like me only have the finest of XP cards in 69 way SLIs for 1024x768 gaming on a 60Hz monitor, beat it noobs.

 

Sadly, I can't run Crysis yet.

[Guest]

You are in minority. 

 

A Titan XP or 1080Ti can push all titles maxed out pasr 60fps no problem at 1080p even poorly optimized games like Deus Ex or Crysis. 

The problem is if your monitor is only 60hz you are wasting frame rate, gpu capable more but monitor isn't so it's a waste and any waste produced is stupid except recycled waste

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2 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

You are in minority. 

 

A Titan XP or 1080Ti can push all titles maxed out pasr 60fps no problem at 1080p even poorly optimized games like Deus Ex or Crysis. 

The problem is if your monitor is only 60hz you are wasting frame rate, gpu capable more but monitor isn't so it's a waste and any waste produced is stupid except recycled waste

Superposition at 1080p with extreme shaders?

 

Physx, OpenCL, CUDA, loads of applications here. Blender can make use of GPU rendering, no loss there even if it is a low res or if it is animation.

 

7 minutes ago, Vespertine said:

Psshh, CSGO professionals like me only have the finest of XP cards in 69 way SLIs for 1024x768 gaming on a 60Hz monitor, beat it noobs.

 

Sadly, I can't run Crysis yet.

What about CSS? Also its gotta be realistic, 2 way SLI is the most.

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1 minute ago, System Error Message said:

Superposition at 1080p with extreme shaders?

 

Physx, OpenCL, CUDA, loads of applications here. Blender can make use of GPU rendering, no loss there even if it is a low res or if it is animation.

 

What about CSS? Also its gotta be realistic, 2 way SLI is the most.

Yes let's buy a $1000 GPU to run benchmarks cause that's what everyone should do

 

Yes those programs you mentioned however utilize CPU way more than GPU. 

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3 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

Yes let's buy a $1000 GPU to run benchmarks cause that's what everyone should do

 

Yes those programs you mentioned however utilize CPU way more than GPU. 

running the ryzen demo on blender, my 7700hq took almost 1 minute to render it, the demo with ryzen 7 took 36 seconds, the GTX 1070 on my laptop took 9 seconds.

 

What were you saying that they utilise more CPU then GPU? Lets not forget the performance/watt advantage the GPU has here.

Some common applications that already use GPUs

browsers

online video decoding/transcoding

media players

some social media programs like discord

 

Superposition shows how gaming could be like within a few years, so by than 1080p gaming can be very intensive. A few years ago when the HD 7970 was new i read a post somewhere (not sure if a forum or reddit) that said anyone who games at 1080p on a hd 7970 should be shot. Now how capable is the old hd 7970 at 1080p gaming? It cant even max it out and i have 2 of them.

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6 minutes ago, System Error Message said:

What about CSS? Also its gotta be realistic, 2 way SLI is the most.

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Actually, 4 way SLI with the XP can be achieved, and my post was obviously a joke, I mean, this thread is a joke, right?

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1 minute ago, System Error Message said:

running the ryzen demo on blender, my 7700hq took almost 1 minute to render it, the demo with ryzen 7 took 36 seconds, the GTX 1070 on my laptop took 9 seconds.

woah did not  know you can run blender without cpu or i mean boot pc without cpu at all

What were you saying that they utilise more CPU then GPU? Lets not forget the performance/watt advantage the GPU has here.

Some common applications that already use GPUs

browsers igpu can handle

online video decoding/transcoding

media players igpu can also handle

some social media programs like discord again igpu

 

yeah browser surely use a heck lot of gpu power

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Just now, Vespertine said:

Actually, 4 way SLI with the XP can be achieved, and my post was obviously a joke, I mean, this thread is a joke, right?

well it is a joke but its main goal is to offend elitists, people who say dont buy this GPU just because you game at this res. What im trying to do is show that there are various uses and personal reasons you could be buying a top of the line or multiple GPUs even if your screen currently sucks (such as future screen upgrades).

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2 minutes ago, System Error Message said:

running the ryzen demo on blender, my 7700hq took almost 1 minute to render it, the demo with ryzen 7 took 36 seconds, the GTX 1070 on my laptop took 9 seconds.

 

What were you saying that they utilise more CPU then GPU? Lets not forget the performance/watt advantage the GPU has here.

Some common applications that already use GPUs

browsers

online video decoding/transcoding

media players

some social media programs like discord

 

Superposition shows how gaming could be like within a few years, so by than 1080p gaming can be very intensive. A few years ago when the HD 7970 was new i read a post somewhere (not sure if a forum or reddit) that said anyone who games at 1080p on a hd 7970 should be shot. Now how capable is the old hd 7970 at 1080p gaming? It cant even max it out and i have 2 of them.

 

Well yeah, but spending 600$ on a card that will last maybe 7 years isn't that good of a deal when cards costing 100$ can last 2 years before you can buy another 100$ that is up to date.

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Just now, System Error Message said:

well it is a joke but its main goal is to offend elitists, people who say dont buy this GPU just because you game at this res. What im trying to do is show that there are various uses and personal reasons you could be buying a top of the line or multiple GPUs even if your screen currently sucks (such as future screen upgrades).

But it is simply not worth it, in fact, I would consider myself as an 'elitists' in your definition, sure once the card is no longer up to date you can just buy another one, keeps you up to date right?

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Just now, Vespertine said:

 

Well yeah, but spending 600$ on a card that will last maybe 7 years isn't that good of a deal when cards costing 100$ can last 2 years before you can buy another 100$ that is up to date.

again, personal choice, its what free will is all about. Dont question the choice, question why not. Perhaps paying more now means more eye candy now.

2 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

yeah browser surely use a heck lot of gpu power

ofcourse an IGP can handle a lot of the tasks, but IGP's hardware acceleration for video encoding for streaming really sucks. It loses details during rapid changes in scene. Nvidia's nvenc does a decent job actually..

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2 minutes ago, System Error Message said:

again, personal choice, its what free will is all about. Dont question the choice, question why not. Perhaps paying more now means more eye candy now.

ofcourse an IGP can handle a lot of the tasks, but IGP's hardware acceleration for video encoding for streaming really sucks. It loses details during rapid changes in scene. Nvidia's nvenc does a decent job actually..

what about the above mentioned browser and discord? so according to you i need to buy a gtx 1080 ti or a titan x pascal to fully utilize the performance of those programs? 

 

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Just now, deXxterlab97 said:

what about the above mentioned browser and discord? so according to you i need to buy a gtx 1080 ti or a titan x pascal to fully utilize the performance of those programs? 

 

its not about what you need to buy, its about what you want to buy.

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2 minutes ago, Vespertine said:

 

Well yeah, but spending 600$ on a card that will last maybe 7 years isn't that good of a deal when cards costing 100$ can last 2 years before you can buy another 100$ that is up to date.

what an awkward ultimatum. $100 dollar card versus $600?

 

There is a mid range...

 

I don't think that's how people shop. I mean i don't know for sure but...

[DoctorZeus]

Just now, System Error Message said:

its not about what you need to buy, its about what you want to buy.

That sounds elitist

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3 minutes ago, DoctorZeus said:

what an awkward ultimatum. $100 dollar card versus $600?

 

There is a mid range...

 

I don't think that's how people shop. I mean i don't know for sure but...

Considering he is saying that you should keep a 600$ card for 1080p for 'futureproofness' it is a fair claim to say that a GTX 1050 will last a year or two before a new 100$ card is out that you can buy, and that it is a better deal overall.

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1 minute ago, System Error Message said:

its not about what you need to buy, its about what you want to buy.

of u buy what you want then it's a stupid choice. i want an fx 9350 idc what ither people are saying. i just want it despite the fact i5 or ryzen 5 is better for money

 

this forum here exists to help people choosing what's best to buy because if you are going with peronsal opinion you might not needed to join a forum at all

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Just now, DoctorZeus said:

That sounds elitist

an elitist would mean choosing something over another regardless of circumstances. What im saying is that everyone has a choice and a lot of advice offered on this site is terrible. Theres a lot you dont know about the future so if something within your budget is considered overkill, theres no reason not to get it. Perhaps something in the future could start making use of it or there may be something you find that you need later on.

 

The point is you should choose. Perhaps you cant afford a fancy GPU and only an IGP with a 4k display on a laptop, you can still game on that and adjust the settings. Its the same with the top end, even if its considered overkill, it doesnt mean you cant choose it.

 

Im not saying what you should or must do, what im saying is choose what you want if within your budget.

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9 minutes ago, System Error Message said:

 

ofcourse an IGP can handle a lot of the tasks, but IGP's hardware acceleration for video encoding for streaming really sucks. It loses details during rapid changes in scene. Nvidia's nvenc does a decent job actually..

this guy shows quicksync has better quality https://obsproject.com/forum/threads/obs-benchmarking-1080p-60fps-cpu-vs-nvenc-vs-quick-sync.15963/

[ravenshrike]

32 minutes ago, System Error Message said:

There have been elitists on the forum who seem to think that you shouldnt get a good GPU like the 1080 ti if you are gaming at 1080p. Such attitudes shouldnt be tolerated so i made this thread for you to mention things that would offend them. If you have the budget and want a good GPU even if you only have 1080p or even 720p screen or even the old 4:3 1024x768 res and grab a good GPU theres really nothing wrong with that. GPUs nowadays dont only do graphics but do a whole lot of other tasks too.

 

So heres my offending setup to the elitist, i game at 1080p using a titan xp. I have both the titan x pascal and the titan xp and i also game on windows server.

 

Something else thats also offensive, my router has 36 cpu cores (similar to the one facebook uses in their servers)  with 2 SFP+ ports but my internet is only 80Mb/s (down + up).

 

 

Less elitist, more realizing that there are better things you could spend the money you plonked down on the top end graphics card on other things. Like a Free/Gsync 1440p monitor.

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Just now, deXxterlab97 said:

this guy shows quicksync has better quality https://obsproject.com/forum/threads/obs-benchmarking-1080p-60fps-cpu-vs-nvenc-vs-quick-sync.15963/

in my tests with OBS, thats not the case.

[Princess Luna]

None of this makes sense, it is your money you can pair the GPU with the Display you want, but if I had money for a 2way SLI Titan Xp I can't understand why not get an Acer X34 to go along with it.

[DoctorZeus]

Just now, System Error Message said:

an elitist would mean choosing something over another regardless of circumstances. What im saying is that everyone has a choice and a lot of advice offered on this site is terrible. Theres a lot you dont know about the future so if something within your budget is considered overkill, theres no reason not to get it. Perhaps something in the future could start making use of it or there may be something you find that you need later on.

 

The point is you should choose. Perhaps you cant afford a fancy GPU and only an IGP with a 4k display on a laptop, you can still game on that and adjust the settings. Its the same with the top end, even if its considered overkill, it doesnt mean you cant choose it.

 

Im not saying what you should or must do, what im saying is choose what you want if within your budget.

well yeah anyone can do what they want with their money nobody is calling the bank to have peoples money.  

 

generally people like to recommend balance. instead of 4k at 10 fps maybe 1440p/1080p at 60. 

 

also people usually give terrible advice because people give terrible starting points. no word about intended usage or expected lifetime. 

 

use a generic question and you'll get a generic answer. 

 

i know you literally started this thread to be combative but you dont seem to understand why people recommend against singular overkill parts.