Best CPU/Graphics Card combo?

[Filiman3421]

So, I am planning to build myself a system and was planning on getting an Intel Core i5 7600K and a Radeon RX580 (Asus), however, I've heard multiple people talking about how Intel's i5 lineup is now outmatched in price/performance by AMD's Ryzen processors. I just saw a YT video where for price and performance recommended the AMD Ryzen 5 1600 (If I recall correctly) since for $200 it was close to Intel's 6700K and 7700K. I'm not a fanboy of neither brand but don't know much about Ryzen. As for graphics, I'll get a 1070 if the price drops at least $50, otherwise, I'm sticking with the RX580. Will there be any bottlenecks with the i5 7600K and an RX580? How about with a 1070? Should I save $15 and go with the R5 1600? Or spend $15 more and get the R5 1600X? Would love to hear opinions!

[ShadySocks]

Wait a little, all the ethereum miners will be selling their graphics cards soon for cheap because ethereum's price crashed, and the difficulty increased.

[Filiman3421]

Just now, ShadySocks said:

Wait a little, all the ethereum miners will be selling their graphics cards soon for cheap because ethereum's price crashed, and the difficulty increased.

Really? Time to buy some ethereum I guess

[TSL]

The 7600K will not bottleneck anything up to a 1080, the 1080ti may seem slight under-utilisation in some scenarios. Likewise the R5 1600 won't bottleneck until the 1080ti. I'm startled to see how you can even find a RX580 at all with the mining craze but perhaps you can. The GTX 1070 is the faster card and would be my recommendation here as the RX580 is heavily overpriced right now. If you go Ryzen, wouldn't recommend going for the 1600X as it can overclock the same as the 1600 making them no different apart from price.

I'd recommend the R5 1600 with a B350 motherboard, which will offer the best performance for your dollar and paired along with the GTX 1070 due to it being better value for money with he GPU mining craze. 

 

This video seems to agree with my suggestions.

[BristolBrick]

About the CPU, I recommend an i7 2600, you can find them much cheaper on ebay than a i5 7600k, and according to Game-Debate they have bugger all performance difference.

http://www.game-debate.com/cpu/index.php?pid=2449&pid2=639&compare=core-i5-7600k-3-8ghz-vs-core-i7-2600-4-core-3-40ghz

A quick look on ebay reveales gems like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Core-i7-2600-3-4GHz-Quad-Core-Processor-/222578247538?epid=109584005&hash=item33d2b28772:g:B-sAAOSwkttZZS5H

 

The cheapest i5 7600k I found was ~$100 more expensive.

 

Edit: The 2600 also has onboard graphics. I know you don't plan to use them, but it's more options!

[TSL]

1 minute ago, BristolBrick said:

About the CPU, I recommend an i7 2600, you can find them much cheaper on ebay than a i5 7600k, and according to Game-Debate they have bugger all performance difference.

http://www.game-debate.com/cpu/index.php?pid=2449&pid2=639&compare=core-i5-7600k-3-8ghz-vs-core-i7-2600-4-core-3-40ghz

A quick look on ebay reveales gems like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Core-i7-2600-3-4GHz-Quad-Core-Processor-/222578247538?epid=109584005&hash=item33d2b28772:g:B-sAAOSwkttZZS5H

 

The cheapest i5 7600k I found was ~$100 more expensive.

The 2600 isn't overclockable and the modern features on the z270 motherboards (or Ryzen counter parts) might be necessary and more appealing. 

[OfficialSiRiS]

You will get MUCH better performance with the R5 1600. The i5 isn't very good value. Either a 580 or 1070 will work great with a 1600 but graphics cards are so expensive at the moment it's worth waiting and deciding later.

[Filiman3421]

3 minutes ago, TSL said:

The 7600K will not bottleneck anything up to a 1080, the 1080ti may seem slight under-utilisation in some scenarios. Likewise the R5 1600 won't bottleneck until the 1080ti. I'm startled to see how you can even find a RX580 at all with the mining craze but perhaps you can. The GTX 1070 is the faster card and would be my recommendation here as the RX580 is heavily overpriced right now. If you go Ryzen, wouldn't recommend going for the 1600X as it can overclock the same as the 1600 making them no different apart from price.

I'd recommend the R5 1600 with a B350 motherboard, which will offer the best performance for your dollar and paired along with the GTX 1070 due to it being better value for money with he GPU mining craze. 

 

This video seems to agree with my suggestions.

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lol that's the video. I heard everything about the GPU prices blowing up a week ago but didn't realize it was bad until now, looking at everything out of stock or with $50 to $100 more

[Filiman3421]

4 minutes ago, BristolBrick said:

About the CPU, I recommend an i7 2600, you can find them much cheaper on ebay than a i5 7600k, and according to Game-Debate they have bugger all performance difference.

http://www.game-debate.com/cpu/index.php?pid=2449&pid2=639&compare=core-i5-7600k-3-8ghz-vs-core-i7-2600-4-core-3-40ghz

A quick look on ebay reveales gems like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Core-i7-2600-3-4GHz-Quad-Core-Processor-/222578247538?epid=109584005&hash=item33d2b28772:g:B-sAAOSwkttZZS5H

 

The cheapest i5 7600k I found was ~$100 more expensive.

 

Edit: The 2600 also has onboard graphics. I know you don't plan to use them, but it's more options!

Yeah, really thinking again about the 7600K with all the other options

[BristolBrick]

Just now, TSL said:

The 2600 isn't overclockable and the modern features on the z270 motherboards (or Ryzen counter parts) might be necessary and more appealing. 

Yeah but for $100 dollars off he gets essentially the same performance, also (my pc is using a 2600 and I did this) you can just go into the bios and some setting lets you turn the speed up to 3.8ghz (non k version)

 

Also, what actual features would be worth the $100 price increase? He probably just wants a gaming rig, in which case a pretty standard mobo would work just fine.

[DrMacintosh]

Ryzen 5 1600 + RX 580 gets my vote.  

 

Ryzen simply kicks ass all around and Intel doesn't know how to coherently formulate a sentence in response right now. 

[Filiman3421]

Just now, DrMacintosh said:

Ryzen 5 1600 + RX 580 gets my vote.  

Yeah, the benchmarks really caught my attention for $200 and if everyone is saying the i5 lineup is not the best option I'm thinking it's true. Either an older Intel or a Ryzen will be better. The RX 580 looks great for 1080p 60+ fps gaming and for 40-50 fps in 1440p (still choosing monitor)

[BristolBrick]

The difference in performance between the 1600 and the 2600 are bugger all. Unless you have something incredibly CPU bound, I reckon you'd never notice if somebody somehow switched your cpu.

http://www.game-debate.com/cpu/index.php?pid=2463&pid2=2449&compare=AMD Ryzen R5 1600-vs-Intel Core i5-7600K 3.8GHz

 

http://www.game-debate.com/cpu/index.php?pid=639&pid2=2463&compare=Intel Core i7-2600 4-Core 3.40GHz-vs-AMD Ryzen R5 1600

[Colin Donoghue]

R5 1600 with an 980 or 980ti used

[BristolBrick]

A 980 is not very good value, I suggest a 1060. I got a 3gb one for $286 a while back, it is simular in performance to a 980.

[Filiman3421]

3 minutes ago, BristolBrick said:

The difference in performance between the 1600 and the 2600 are bugger all. Unless you have something incredibly CPU bound, I reckon you'd never notice if somebody somehow switched your cpu.

http://www.game-debate.com/cpu/index.php?pid=2463&pid2=2449&compare=AMD Ryzen R5 1600-vs-Intel Core i5-7600K 3.8GHz

 

http://www.game-debate.com/cpu/index.php?pid=639&pid2=2463&compare=Intel Core i7-2600 4-Core 3.40GHz-vs-AMD Ryzen R5 1600

Thanks for the comparison, on the video above it compares it to the 6700K and the 7700K in gaming and video rendering and it doesn't fall behind by a noticeable difference

[Filiman3421]

1 minute ago, BristolBrick said:

A 980 is not very good value, I suggest a 1060. I got a 3gb one for $286 a while back, it is simular in performance to a 980.

Yeah, I'd prefer a newer card. Just feel more comfortable with a newer architecture and everything. Before the prices went everywhere, that was the price of a 580 with a very good performance against a 1060 and with Crossfire I may add another card for a buff

[BristolBrick]

I'm curious to know what you picked.

[TSL]

1 hour ago, BristolBrick said:

Yeah but for $100 dollars off he gets essentially the same performance, also (my pc is using a 2600 and I did this) you can just go into the bios and some setting lets you turn the speed up to 3.8ghz (non k version)

 

Also, what actual features would be worth the $100 price increase? He probably just wants a gaming rig, in which case a pretty standard mobo would work just fine.

He might want M.2 SSD support, which is quite common place these days. You're suggestion isn't bad, but I believe OP will make better use of something like the Ryzen 5 1600, but ultimately its his decision.

[BristolBrick]

1 minute ago, TSL said:

He might want M.2 SSD support, which is quite common place these days. You're suggestion isn't bad, but I believe OP will make better use of something like the Ryzen 5 1600, but ultimately its his decision.

I can imagine M.2 being nice, but I doubt it's much better than a regular (and cheaper) SSD.

[TSL]

7 hours ago, BristolBrick said:

I can imagine M.2 being nice, but I doubt it's much better than a regular (and cheaper) SSD.

M.2 SSDs run on PCIe Bus (usually, some rare scenarios they don't, but very rarely) making them significantly faster than normal SSDs. If the only difference was their interface, why would they be popular? They are faster, so more people like them as boot drives.