Will net neutrality effect Canadians?

[R3DOPS]

I live in Canada and im hearing a whole lot of hubba abut how net neutrality is being threaten. Even if net neutrality will no longer be a thing will it effect Canadians? 

[Oshino Shinobu]

It will effect everybody.

[R3DOPS]

Just now, Princess Cadence said:

Here is not a place to make questions, it is a place to post Tech related news.

oops my bad 

edit: it is tech related but i see what you mean. 

[Sakkura]

Changes to net neutrality rules in the US should not directly affect Canadians... probably.

 

But there's a good chance the same changes would happen in Canada if it goes through in the US.

[PeachyUwUSenpai]

Yep almost all of are internet gets bounced through the united states at one point or another

[Denned]

It will have an effect on almost everyone. You're probably using a lot of online services with bases in the US..

[JAKEBAB]

No it shouldnt. That doesnt mean Canada wont do the same thing eventually though.

[TidaLWaveZ]

Can something as small as the flap of a butterflies wing start a chain reaction that causes complete and utter disaster on the other side of the globe?

[TheRandomness]

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[Sniperfox47]

3 hours ago, R3DOPS said:

I live in Canada and im hearing a whole lot of hubba abut how net neutrality is being threaten. Even if net neutrality will no longer be a thing will it effect Canadians? 

I'm Canadian too. Short answer is it'll affect us the same way the US allowing their ISPs to record and sell information on their users without consent affected us or how SOPA would have affected us. That is to say, indirectly.

 

A) it indicates that this is something ISPs can push for and get away with, encouraging Shaw, Telus, Xplorenet, Rogers, Telus, Bell, Quebecor and others to push for the same things up here.

 

B) it affects any US based services you access that don't have their own backbone connection, since their ISP would be allowed to mess with their upload, just like a users download.

 

And C) it'll have an economic cost on internet services up here in the negative impact it has on businesses like Netflix.

 

And while the current net neutrality rules may be crap they're better than nothing. Striking them completely before there's even any plan to replace does absolutely nothing positive.

 

What the US really needs is for Congress to actually step in and set formal and legally enforceable net neutrality rules that actually get upheld. I'm not holding my breath though, since there's a lot of money and votes telling them to do the exact opposite.

[2FA]

50 minutes ago, Tibbles said:

the net neutrality bill was utter crap to begin with and requires a serious rework

It wasn't a bill, it was a reclassification and regulation. Bills are the documents that Congress votes on to become laws.

[2FA]

2 minutes ago, Tibbles said:

okay regulation then, that not many companies chose to follow

It's not that they didn't follow it, it's that the regulations didn't go far enough. Example being slow/fast lanes of network traffic. The regulations didn't make them illegal but it did make it so that ISPs had to charge a "fair" price for the laning. The problem is the ambiguity of "fair."

[2FA]

4 hours ago, R3DOPS said:

I live in Canada and im hearing a whole lot of hubba abut how net neutrality is being threaten. Even if net neutrality will no longer be a thing will it effect Canadians? 

Not directly but if a service you use is based in the US, you could be impacted.

[Sakkura]

1 hour ago, Sniperfox47 said:

A) it indicates that this is something ISPs can push for and get away with, encouraging Shaw, Telus, Xplorenet, Rogers, Telus, Bell, Quebecor and others to push for the same things up here.

It could also encourage Telus.

 

[Sniperfox47]

1 minute ago, Sakkura said:

It could also encourage Telus.

 

Hehe sorry, went through the list in my head of traditional ISPs and mobile ISPs and they were on both lists

[NinJake]

Remember effect and affect

[Thunderpup]

i think to answer this question you would have to find out in what way were Canadians, and other countries, were affected before the net neutrality regs came about.

 

As mentioned a few times the new regs are pretty weak and broken, and it is arguable they have had any meaningful impact in terms of user experiences. 

 

In general though anything that affects the internet on a wide scale in the U.S is going to have some sort of global impact as the internet quite literally has it's roots in the U.S.  

[Yoinkerman]

It already does

[yathis]

Too much money in the game

 

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Net neutrality is the principle that Internet service providers and governments regulating the Internet should treat all data on the Internet the same, not discriminating or charging differentially by user, content, website, platform, application, type of attached equipment, or mode of communication.^[1] The term was coined by Columbia University media law professor Tim Wu in 2003, as an extension of the longstanding concept of a common carrier, which was used to describe the role of telephone systems.^[2][3][4][5]

A widely-cited example of a violation of net neutrality principles was when the Internet service provider Comcast was secretly slowing (a.k.a. "throttling") uploads from peer-to-peer file sharing (P2P) applications by using forged packets.^[6] Comcast didn't stop blocking these protocols like BitTorrent until the FCC ordered them to do so.^[7] In 2004, The Madison River Communications company was fined $15,000 by the FCC for restricting their customer’s access to Vonage which was rivaling their own services.^[8] AT&T was also caught limiting access to FaceTime, so only those users who paid for the new shared data plans could access the application.^[9] In April 2017, an attempt to compromise net neutrality in the United States is being considered by the newly appointed FCC chairman, Ajit Varadaraj Pai.^[10][11] On May 16, 2017, a process began to roll back Open Internet rules, in place since 2015. This rule-making process includes a public comment period that lasts sixty days: thirty days for public comment and thirty days for the FCC to respond.^[12]

Research suggests that a combination of policy instruments will help realize the range of valued political and economic objectives central to the network neutrality debate.^[13] Combined with strong public opinion, this has led some governments to regulate broadband Internet services as a public utility, similar to the way electricity, gas and water supply is regulated, along with limiting providers and regulating the options those providers can offer.^[14]

 

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