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Looking for a powerful ultra book for engineering school. Would much rather just have something that can handle light engineering tasks and be great t everything else and easy to carry around. For intensive engineering work I will just go to computer lab. (EE major)

 

about 1200-1500 budget with nice 2-3 year warranty included in price preferably. 

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8 minutes ago, SCGazelle said:

Would a XPS 15 work for you?

This is exactly what I was going to suggest - about as thin and lightweight as a 2017 MacBook Amateur, but with the ports a professional would need to actually get shit done. I recently bought my XPS 15 9560 and love it for everything it is. Mine is the i7-7700HQ, 16GB, 512GB, FHD model, and I don't notice any ghosting on my particular unit. That being said, people still seem to be generally happier with the 4K IPS panel overall, even though Windows and other software still have garbage scaling for 4K displays.

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10 minutes ago, Himommies said:

If it's light work the Macbook

my vote is on the MacBook. 

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6 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

my vote is on the MacBook. 

A mac would suck, you would need to run bootcamp all the time to even use most applications.

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Just now, Enderman said:

you would need to run bootcamp all the time to even use most applications

Um what? 

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My vote is on this machine: 

  • 2.3GHz dual-core 7th-generation Intel Core i5 processor, Turbo Boost up to 3.6GHz
  • 8GB 2133MHz LPDDR3 memory
  • 256GB SSD storage
  • Intel Iris Plus Graphics 640
  • Two Thunderbolt 3 ports
  • $1,499

https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro?product=MPXT2LL/A&step=config# 

 

It pushes your budget to the limit but you could get a 128GB model for $1,299 

 

It would really help to know what programs you are going to be using though. 

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Just now, Bzdougie said:

Most engineering programs are designed to be natively used on windows machines

which programs?

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3 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Um what? 

Most engineering applications are windows only.

An XPS15 would be a much better choice.

Just as powerful as a macbook, but also has longer battery life.

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1 minute ago, Enderman said:

but also has longer battery life.

bs

 

also the XPS has a massively inferior SSD

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Just now, Enderman said:

Most engineering applications are windows only.

Also this doesnt help if he isn't going to be using a program that is Windows only, but he hasn't said which programs he will be using. 

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2 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

My vote is on this machine: 

  • 2.3GHz dual-core 7th-generation Intel Core i5 processor, Turbo Boost up to 3.6GHz
  • 8GB 2133MHz LPDDR3 memory
  • 256GB SSD storage
  • Intel Iris Plus Graphics 640
  • Two Thunderbolt 3 ports
  • $1,499

https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro?product=MPXT2LL/A&step=config# 

 

It pushes your budget to the limit but you could get a 128GB model for $1,299 

 

It would really help to know what programs you are going to be using though. 

checks to see if I can return XPS 13

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Just now, SCGazelle said:

checks to see if I can return XPS 13

lmao 

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3 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

bs

Denial much?

 

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-MacBook-Pro-15-2017-2-8-GHz-555-Laptop-Review.230096.0.html

Battery Runtime

Load (maximum brightness) 1h 00min

 

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Dell-XPS-15-9560-i7-7700HQ-UHD-Laptop-Review.200648.0.html

Battery Runtime

Load (maximum brightness) 1h 43min

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2 minutes ago, Enderman said:

Denial much?

 

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-MacBook-Pro-15-2017-2-8-GHz-555-Laptop-Review.230096.0.html

Battery Runtime

WiFi Surfing v1.3 10h 44min

Big Buck Bunny H.264 1080p 8h 31min

Load (maximum brightness) 1h 00min

 

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Dell-XPS-15-9560-i7-7700HQ-UHD-Laptop-Review.200648.0.html

Battery Runtime

Idle (without WLAN, min brightness) 13h 51min

WiFi Surfing v1.3 7h 14min

Load (maximum brightness) 1h 43min

wait lmao these are 15" models

 

Im only looking at 13" models 

 

Also Windows 10 Battery tests are bull as demonstrated multiple times by LTT. 

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Just now, DrMacintosh said:

wait lmao these are 15" models

 

Im only looking at 13" models 

Funny how you suddenly claim you're talking about 13" when I clearly said "XPS15" in my post, and the person that mentioned the XPS earlier in this post also said "XPS 15"...

 

 

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1 minute ago, Enderman said:

when I clearly said "XPS15" in my post

lol just because you wrote it does not mean that I read it. 

 

Also I only linked 13" MacBooks 

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2 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

lol just because you wrote it does not mean that I read it. 

 

Also I only linked 13" MacBooks 

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-MacBook-Pro-13-Mid-2017-i5-Touch-Bar-Review.227154.0.html

Battery Runtime

WiFi Surfing v1.3 8h 39min

Big Buck Bunny H.264 1080p 6h 55min

Load (maximum brightness) 1h 10min

 

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Dell-XPS-13-9360-QHD-i7-7500U-Notebook-Review.181471.0.html

Battery Runtime

Idle (without WLAN, min brightness) 17h 33min

WiFi Surfing v1.3 8h 36min

Load (maximum brightness) 2h 9min

 

I see you're still either uninformed, or in denial...hmmm...which is it?

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Just now, Enderman said:

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-MacBook-Pro-13-Mid-2017-i5-Touch-Bar-Review.227154.0.html

Battery Runtime

WiFi Surfing v1.38h 39min

Big Buck Bunny H.264 1080p6h 55min

Load (maximum brightness)1h 10min

wrong MacBook 

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21 minutes ago, kirashi said:

This is exactly what I was going to suggest - about as thin and lightweight as a 2017 MacBook Amateur, but with the ports a professional would need to actually get shit done. I recently bought my XPS 15 9560 and love it for everything it is. Mine is the i7-7700HQ, 16GB, 512GB, FHD model, and I don't notice any ghosting on my particular unit. That being said, people still seem to be generally happier with the 4K IPS panel overall, even though Windows and other software still have garbage scaling for 4K displays.

What do you use your machine for? Any thermal issues or anything like that?

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Just now, DrMacintosh said:

wrong model again

You think a different model will magically increase it's battery life by 200%? lol

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