High Temps?

[SideWaysET]

Hello,

So I was just done putting together my first water cooled loop but the temps are very high.

GPU at idle is 65-70C and when playing Battleground it reaches 90C

CPU at idle is 30-35C and 50C at load.


The loop config is as follow:
Everything is from EK

1st Reservoir then to dual pump then to bottom rad(intake) then to GPU then to CPU (monoblock) then to top rad with exhaust and back to the reservoir.


I do have a couple of problems that I am aware after the build, let me know if these would affect temperature or I should look into other problems as well.

1. My motherboard is Asus Maximus IX extreme with monoblock, and while monoblock records water in and out temps of 33C, it is not spinning inside and RGB lights do not work. I posted to asus and waiting to see what I can do

 

2.Some problem with fans. The top radiator is triple 120 radiator, however, due to monoblock height, third fan does not fit into case, so it has 2 fans as push  running and one NZXT 200mm fan from the top as pull.
Top rad fans are 3000rpm vardar

The bottom radiator is dual 140mm and one of the fans was  DOA so I am currently using the third 3000rpm fan as temp solution until I get replacement fan this Wednesday.

Let me know if this temps are normal or what should I try/explore to fix this temps?

thanks a lot in advance

 

UPDATE

My GPU: Strix 1080 TI
CPU: 7700K

Pic of loop attached
 

Edited July 2, 2017 by SideWaysET

[W-L]

4 minutes ago, SideWaysET said:

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Those are very warm on the GPU, post up a photo of the loop that usually provides a lot of information. 

[SideWaysET]

14 minutes ago, W-L said:

Those are very warm on the GPU, post up a photo of the loop that usually provides a lot of information. 

i updated it with pic and hardware

[For Science!]

1 minute ago, SideWaysET said:

i updated it with pic and hardware

You are bypassing your GPU, the inlet and outlet need to be on different sides. EKWB would like to have it inlet on the left and outlet on the right

[For Science!]

3 minutes ago, SideWaysET said:

i updated it with pic and hardware

Also kind of an extra, but your run between the res and pump probably should be trimmed down a bit, at the moment the height of the tubing puts unnecessary volume requirements for the pump to be fed. The pumps do not "suck in" liquid, and require the water to move by gravity, and so its best to minimize the requirements of the reservoir volume by making sure the liquid can smoothly travel downwards.

[SideWaysET]

3 minutes ago, For Science! said:

You are bypassing your GPU, the inlet and outlet need to be on different sides. EKWB would like to have it inlet on the left and outlet on the right

Oh RIP, so you are saying I have to put the tube from GPU to CPU on the right side from the top?

[For Science!]

Just now, SideWaysET said:

Oh RIP, so you are saying I have to put the tube from GPU to CPU on the right side from the top?

That is correct, at the moment the liquid is just shooting straight past the GPU, and stagnant water (or air, more likely) is just hanging around in the block. You should drain immediately and re-plump, otherwise bad stuff will happen to your card.

[Skiiwee29]

1 minute ago, SideWaysET said:

Oh RIP, so you are saying I have to put the tube from GPU to CPU on the right side from the top?

Yea, otherwise its not actually passing through properly. Bottom left, Top right. 

[W-L]

2 minutes ago, SideWaysET said:

Oh RIP, so you are saying I have to put the tube from GPU to CPU on the right side from the top?

Yes you're not cooling your GPU basically by having the tubing on the same side. 

[For Science!]

Oh man, also you are I think you are running the monoblock in reverse direction? that is probably why you flow meter is not spinning

[For Science!]

Yes, confirmed. You should have the GPU--> CPU connection coming outside the right of your GPU, and into the Right side of the monoblock. This is actually quite important too, so do  that.

[SideWaysET]

Just now, For Science! said:

Oh man, also you are I think you are running the monoblock in reverse direction? that is probably why you flow meter is not spinning

Oy boy, the part from GPU to CPU, is marked by upper arrow and the part from CPU to Rad is down arrow, isnt that correct?

[SideWaysET]

1 minute ago, For Science! said:

Yes, confirmed. You should have the GPU--> CPU connection coming outside the right of your GPU, and into the Right side of the monoblock. This is actually quite important too, so do  that.

Alright, so it needs to come from right side of gpu to right side of block where the current tube goes into rad?
But isnt down arrow mean outlet?

[For Science!]

Just now, SideWaysET said:

Alright, so it needs to come from right side of gpu to right side of block where the current tube goes into rad?
But isnt down arrow mean outlet?

1 minute ago, SideWaysET said:

Oy boy, the part from GPU to CPU, is marked by upper arrow and the part from CPU to Rad is down arrow, isnt that correct?

I believe the arrow pointing towards the hole (downwards) is the inlet, whereas the arrow pointing away from the hole is the outlet. I'll check the manuals if I were you

[W-L]

Just now, SideWaysET said:

Alright, so it needs to come from right side of gpu to right side of block where the current tube goes into rad?
But isnt down arrow mean outlet?

Here this is the correct flow pattern, as For Science has mentioned it is direction specific :

http://hexus.net/tech/news/mainboard/103369-asus-rog-maximus-ix-extreme-z270-motherboard-announced/

[SideWaysET]

3 minutes ago, For Science! said:

I believe the arrow pointing towards the hole (downwards) is the inlet, whereas the arrow pointing away from the hole is the outlet. I'll check the manuals if I were you

 

3 minutes ago, W-L said:

Here this is the correct flow pattern, as For Science has mentioned it is direction specific :

http://hexus.net/tech/news/mainboard/103369-asus-rog-maximus-ix-extreme-z270-motherboard-announced/

Thanks a lot for both of you.

Is there any recommended method of draining this loop that you might give me?

[For Science!]

2 minutes ago, SideWaysET said:

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If you don't have a drain port....then in this case you can do one of two things, since if you have flexible tubing (I think)

 

1. Unmount the reservoir from the case and pour the liquid out the top, tipping the case back and forth

 

2. put the whole system down on its side (motherboard on top) between two tables/chairs, and then put a big bowel under the system, unplug the connection from the pump outlet and let the liquid pour out. This could be messy, but probably more effective than method 1

 

When you get a chance next time you should consider plumbing a drain port in so that you can drain with a flick of a valve.

[SideWaysET]

6 minutes ago, For Science! said:

If you don't have a drain port....then in this case you can do one of two things, since if you have flexible tubing (I think)

 

1. Unmount the reservoir from the case and pour the liquid out the top, tipping the case back and forth

 

2. put the whole system down on its side (motherboard on top) between two tables/chairs, and then put a big bowel under the system, unplug the connection from the pump outlet and let the liquid pour out. This could be messy, but probably more effective than method 1

 

When you get a chance next time you should consider plumbing a drain port in so that you can drain with a flick of a valve.

I think I will go down with m1 and then m2 if needed. Which radiator should I undo? top or bottom? It sounds like I need to do the top but want to confirm? lol

[For Science!]

1 minute ago, SideWaysET said:

I think I will go down with m1 and then m2 if needed. Which radiator should I undo? top or bottom? It sounds like I need to do the top but want to confirm? lol

You mean to let air in? I don't think its neccesary since after unmounting the reservoir, you just open the top and so air will get in from the left or right so it should be okay. To be honest, after thinking about it (I think from a hardline perspective), you can actually just unmount the whole system with the amount of flex you have, so just remove the whole water cooling loop out and drain is somewhere safe.

 

Looks like this order would be the easiest:

 

- Top Rad

- Reservoir (loosen only for now)

- Monoblock

- GPU

-Bottom rad and pump

 

This will of course mean you will have to re-do the monoblock application, but maybe its better to be safe this way. If you prefer to keep the components in, then just do either of the methods in the previous post.

[For Science!]

After double looking at your photo, actually the easiest way is to just unmount the top radiator, let it hang outside the case and undo one of the fittings into a bowl - i recommend the top rad to reservoir connection on the radiator side (i.e. draining out of a tube from the reservoir). Just make sure the draining tube should be the lowest point. After a while you can manually move the radiator body to a high place so there is a siphoning effect to drain the system.

[SideWaysET]

29 minutes ago, For Science! said:

After double looking at your photo, actually the easiest way is to just unmount the top radiator, let it hang outside the case and undo one of the fittings into a bowl - i recommend the top rad to reservoir connection on the radiator side (i.e. draining out of a tube from the reservoir). Just make sure the draining tube should be the lowest point. After a while you can manually move the radiator body to a high place so there is a siphoning effect to drain the system.

I did it this way. Disconnnected top rad, drained from it and switched the tubes. Now re running it. Will post resutls soon

[SideWaysET]

I think it is success guys.

 

1. RGB is now on, got the plug reversed. Lul
2. Tubes are switched. Flow meter is working

New Temps

1. GPU Idle: 28-32. Gpu stress test / Overclock 35-37C
2. CPU idle: 30ish, overclock 35-38C
    

Is this good to go? Does this seem normal to you?

[For Science!]

1 minute ago, SideWaysET said:

 

Looks great! Hopefully your i7 has good TIM application because I had to delid mine to get good thermals.

 

If you don't mind, when there is a time for it, can I re-use your first image as an "example for things that can go wrong"? since there are quite a few things that need to be spotted in one image, and nicely illustrate some of the lesser obvious things that can go wrong. Only if you are willing, of course! 

[SideWaysET]

2 minutes ago, For Science! said:

Looks great! Hopefully your i7 has good TIM application because I had to delid mine to get good thermals.

 

If you don't mind, when there is a time for it, can I re-use your first image as an "example for things that can go wrong"? since there are quite a few things that need to be spotted in one image, and nicely illustrate some of the lesser obvious things that can go wrong. Only if you are willing, of course! 

Of course, go ahead and use it. It was my first time so I messed it up, will know for future.

i7 should have, I did the dot method, then, block was not spreading it nicely, so I spread it with credit card, for gpu, I put the X method.