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By FornaX
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Hi Guys,

I'm getting my new PC by next week, I'm the first time builder, linustech has been teaching me a lot and giving me tips of my buidling. 

 

Here's my question, I couldn't find a video that can explain my Air Flow method, I'm using Phanteks Elipse P400STG which allow me to put 2x 140mm on top

1x 120mm on rear

3x120mm / 2x240mm on front.

PS: My AIO Radiator only can fit in front. 

 

My plan is 

2x 140mm on top use Air Flow Fans as push inside the case

1x 120mm on rear use Air Flow Fans as push inside the case

X62's Radiator install at front, use Static Pressure Fans install between the radiator and front case (middle) as push outside the case or pull from radiator

 

For this case, I'm wondering am I getting too much Positive Air Pressure that creating death spot inside the case and lead overheating component ? In order word, is poor exhausting heat method.

 

Need advice or any better solution. Thanks

 

 

Below is the rest of my build:

  Intel i7-7700
  Asus Rog Strix Z270F
  Asus Rog Strix GTX 1080 O8G 11GBPS
  NZXT Kranken X62
  FSP 750 Full Modular
   Kingston HyperX FURY 8GB DDR4 2400MHz x 2
  WD 120GB WDS120G1G0B SATA M.2 2280 GREEN SSD
  Western Digital 1TB 3.5" SATA
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Just now, FornaX said:

2x 140mm on top use Air Flow Fans as push inside the case

1x 120mm on rear use Air Flow Fans as push inside the case

X62's Radiator install at front, use Static Pressure Fans install between the radiator and front case (middle) as push outside the case or pull from radiator

You need exaust, where is that hot air going to go? Id make the top and read fans exaust.

 

Id personally just get sp fans like the nf-f12, air flow flans are only quieter, they don't move more air.

 

Just now, FornaX said:

  Intel i7-7700   Asus Rog Strix Z270F   Asus Rog Strix GTX 1080 O8G 11GBPS   NZXT Kranken X62   FSP 750 Full Modular    Kingston HyperX FURY 8GB DDR4 2400MHz x 2   WD 120GB WDS120G1G0B SATA M.2 2280 GREEN SSD   Western Digital 1TB 3.5" SATA

Some ideas for the build.

 

Get a bigger ssd.

 

Get a i7 7700k or a cheaper board, no reason to get the non - k chip and a high end board.

And really, the stock cooler is fine for the non k chips, or if you want lower temps something like a c7. No use for a liquid cooler, just more expensive and more prone to leaks.

 

Id also look at a ryzen 5 1600 instead.

 

Id get a smaller 500 or 550w psu

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2 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

You need exaust, where is that hot air going to go? Id make the top and read fans exaust.

 

Id personally just get sp fans like the nf-f12, air flow flans are only quieter, they don't move more air.

My plan B is 

 

2x 140mm on top use Air Flow Fans as push outside the case

1x 120mm on rear use Air Flow Fans as push outside the case

X62's Radiator install at front, use Radiator install between the SP Fans and front case (middle). The SP Fan push inside the case or pull from radiator

 

With this plan I'm wondering having Negative Air Pressure. As I prefer 'pull' from rad to reduce dust. 

 

I thought SP Fan is designed for compact environment. 

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Just now, FornaX said:

I thought SP Fan is designed for compact environment. 

Look at the specs, almost the same airflow compared to af fans, normally just a bit louder, also do better with higher pressiure.

 

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y plan B is 

 

2x 140mm on top use Air Flow Fans as push outside the case

1x 120mm on rear use Air Flow Fans as push outside the case

X62's Radiator install at front, use Radiator install between the SP Fans and front case (middle). The SP Fan push inside the case or pull from radiator

 

With this plan I'm wondering having Negative Air Pressure. As I prefer 'pull' from rad to reduce dust. 

Or you could just not have any fans in the top. They won't really help anyways(one degree max difference). The dust thing only really is true when you have dust filers on the instakes, otherwise it doesn't really matter.

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10 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Get a bigger ssd.

 

Get a i7 7700k or a cheaper board, no reason to get the non - k chip and a high end board.

And really, the stock cooler is fine for the non k chips, or if you want lower temps something like a c7. No use for a liquid cooler, just more expensive and more prone to leaks.

 

Id also look at a ryzen 5 1600 instead.

 

Id get a smaller 500 or 550w psu

Forget to mention I did have one more extra 2.5 SSD 240 GB for installing game. M.2 is for OS and working file. HDD is for storage. 

 

The reason I don't choose K series is I'm not a hard core OC ppl. But I still feel the AIO will done a nice job of cooling CPU (Looks cool too)

With the Z board I'm planned for future upgrade to SLI which will smoother 4k gaming experience. I done reach on it, 1070 SLI is not able to do it. and 1080 Ti is out of stock in my country. Consider this, I also go for highere W.  B250F mobo doesn't support SLI.

 

Personally prefer Nvidia. 

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Just now, FornaX said:

Forget to mention I did have one more extra 2.5 SSD 240 GB for installing game. M.2 is for OS and working file. HDD is for storage. 

Just get a single bigger ssd, that m.2 drive is just a normal sata drive and isn't any faster thana  2.5 in drive. 120gb is to small for windows boot.

 

Just now, FornaX said:

 

The reason I don't choose K series is I'm not a hard core OC ppl.

You still get a lot more clock speed with the k chip at stock and its work the extra.

 

Just now, FornaX said:

Personally prefer Nvidia. 

thats the cpu, not the gpu.

 

Just now, FornaX said:

With the Z board I'm planned for future upgrade to SLI which will smoother 4k gaming experience. I done reach on it,

Your really much better off waiting a year for the 1180ti and replaceing your 1080ti rather than sli. It will preform better and not have the suttering and game support problems. 

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5 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Or you could just not have any fans in the top. They won't really help anyways(one degree max difference). The dust thing only really is true when you have dust filers on the instakes, otherwise it doesn't really matter.

I get your advice as

 

Leave top empty.

Rear use SP Fan as exhausting hot air from the case.

But for the front, should I use push SP toward radiator which will need to install the fan between the front case and rad. 

 

I get it right ？

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I get your advice as

 

Leave top empty.

Rear use SP Fan as exhausting hot air from the case.

But for the front, should I use push SP toward radiator which will need to install the fan between the front case and rad. 

 

I get it right ？

Thats that Id do, all sp fans, one in rear, 2 for front rad. All moving air from front to back.

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5 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Your really much better off waiting a year for the 1180ti and replaceing your 1080ti rather than sli. It will preform better and not have the suttering and game support problems. 

Forget the GPU, If I upgrade my CPU to K series, is it worth to having the Z board ?

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7 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Thats that Id do, all sp fans, one in rear, 2 for front rad. All moving air from front to back.

Please do recommend some nice and cheap SP fan.

 

6 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

If you plan to oc or sli, you want it, otherwise no. 

If get the K cpu, will OC it. Else, I just need B250F to run my rig ?

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If get the K cpu, will OC it. Else, I just need B250F to run my rig ?

yep.

Just now, FornaX said:

Please do recommend some nice and cheap SP fan.

 

Wanna spend some money? Nf-f12s

 

Want to be cheap, use the fans that come in your case and the ones that come with your raditor.

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6 hours ago, FornaX said:

push outside

We just call that exhaust and the opposite intake. 

6 hours ago, FornaX said:

If get the K cpu, will OC it. Else, I just need B250F to run my rig ?

Yes, you also don't need an aftermarket cooler for a locked cpu either since the stock cooler would be fine. 

You should probably see how the stock fans perform before deciding or whether or not to replace them. If you're sticking to the plan of a front 280mm rad for intake, a rear exhaust, and swapping to a 7700k, the fans provided should be enough for cooling. You can decide later whether or not they're too loud after using them. 

6 hours ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

get the nf-f12

NF-F12's aren't great as case fans. NF-P12's provide more airflow in this case and are quieter. 

That being said, noctua isn't the only option.

 

If you ever need help with a build, read the following before posting: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/3061-build-plan-thread-recommendations-please-read-before-posting/
Also, make sure to quote a post or tag a member when replying or else they won't get a notification that you replied to them.

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6 hours ago, WoodenMarker said:

Yes, you also don't need an aftermarket cooler for a locked cpu either since the stock cooler would be fine. 

You should probably see how the stock fans perform before deciding or whether or not to replace them. If you're sticking to the plan of a front 280mm rad for intake, a rear exhaust, and swapping to a 7700k, the fans provided should be enough for cooling. You can decide later whether or not they're too loud after using them. 

I will get the 7700K and OC it since I already purchased the X62. 

 

I'll left the top empty and planning to get a better rear exhaust fan (120mm max), but I'm still thinking whether use SP or AF better ?

 

I quite like the design of Corsair SP 120 and AF 120 quite edition (no led), will it be a good choice ?

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3 minutes ago, FornaX said:

sticking to the plan of a front 280mm rad for intake

Shall I use the fan to push rad in order to get fresh air ?

 

or shall I use the fan to pull from front rad while get intake air to ATX ? (rad is between the fan and front case)

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56 minutes ago, FornaX said:

I will get the 7700K and OC it since I already purchased the X62. 

I'll left the top empty and planning to get a better rear exhaust fan (120mm max), but I'm still thinking whether use SP or AF better ?

I quite like the design of Corsair SP 120 and AF 120 quite edition (no led), will it be a good choice ?

Unless you already have experience with the stock fan, you should see how it performs before deciding on whether or not to replace it. 

AF120's are good and SP120's a bit less so. There are generally better and/or cheaper fans available.

50 minutes ago, FornaX said:

Shall I use the fan to push rad in order to get fresh air ?

or shall I use the fan to pull from front rad while get intake air to ATX ? (rad is between the fan and front case)

It doesn't make much of a difference.

If you ever need help with a build, read the following before posting: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/3061-build-plan-thread-recommendations-please-read-before-posting/
Also, make sure to quote a post or tag a member when replying or else they won't get a notification that you replied to them.

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Just now, Lurick said:

Take option B and swap the back fan to push air out instead of in and you're good to go.

will there become negative air pressure? 

 

my rad eventually is blocking the air flow. The bottom 120 actually is mounted at the PWU layer. 

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