Which CPU wait or NOT?

[Aspirix]

Hello guys i am making a custome pc but i dont know if i should wait for the new cpu's to launch or just buy a i7 7700k ?

[limegorilla]

Ryzen not an option?

[rn8686]

Purpose of PC? R5/R7 may be a good option depending if you are gaming or rendering/streaming. 

[Aspirix]

I am mostly going to game. PUBG BF1 R6. And do some recording too. Looking at comperason videos the i7 7700k seems bether than the ryzens for gaming atleast

[Ordinarily_Greater]

Just now, Aspirix said:

I am mostly going to game. PUBG BF1 R6. And do some recording too. Looking at comperason videos the i7 7700k seems bether than the ryzens for gaming atleast

Yeah i can agree but will you record like crazy? That takes long time or something like that?

[JakeNTech]

3 minutes ago, Aspirix said:

Hello guys i am making a custome pc but i dont know if i should wait for the new cpu's to launch or just buy a i7 7700k ?

I would not buy a 7700k if your not going to over clock, and if all your going to be doing is gaming then I would consider 7600(K) as it will be cheaper and can sill game, and may give you some more money for a GPU. I would also consider going AMD, they off better performance at a lower price in most cases, no pun intended  

[rn8686]

5 minutes ago, Aspirix said:

I am mostly going to game. PUBG BF1 R6. And do some recording too. Looking at comperason videos the i7 7700k seems bether than the ryzens for gaming atleast

That depends how much you want to record, and if you are playing at high refresh rates. If just 60Hz, then R5 would be just fine. 

[Aspirix]

I have a gtx 1080 gaming strix already and a 2tb hdd and a 1080p 144hz gaming monitor (Will probally upgrade to a 1440p monitor) and was thinking about buying following setup:

 

i7 7700k

x62 Kraken

samsung evo 850 (250-500) gb

vengeance 2x8 ddr4 White led ram

asus prime z270p

phanteks p400 tempererede glass

Corsair CS 750M

 

purpose:

gaming 1080p to 1440p and some recording at 1080p 60 fps

pricerange: 1,150 dollar and i am from Denmark where the Price is higher for Electronics.

Edited July 1, 2017 by Aspirix

[Guest]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($199.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($24.88 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($93.97 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($126.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($169.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400 TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($85.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($88.49 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $850.28 USD
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-01 04:17 EDT-0400

[Aspirix]

Pricerange: 1150 dollar ~ 8000k kroner in Danish valuta (the Price for elctronics is higher in Denmark)

[Aspirix]

1 hour ago, LeinadTM said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($199.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($24.88 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($93.97 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($126.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($169.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400 TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($85.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($88.49 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $850.28 USD
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-01 04:17 EDT-0400

Interesting build Never thought of the 1600. But what if my budget were a bit higher?

[Aspirix]

2 hours ago, rn8686 said:

Purpose of PC? R5/R7 may be a good option depending if you are gaming or rendering/streaming. 

What cpu would you choose if you max budget for a cpu is 360 dollar? And you would record games and game ?

[rn8686]

1 minute ago, Aspirix said:

What cpu would you choose if you max budget for a cpu is 360 dollar? And you would record games and game ?

Unless you are playing at high refresh rates, R5 would be much better (R7 if you record often). 

[Aspirix]

16 minutes ago, rn8686 said:

Unless you are playing at high refresh rates, R5 would be much better (R7 if you record often). 

 

16 minutes ago, rn8686 said:

Unless you are playing at high refresh rates, R5 would be much better (R7 if you record often). 

I am, i am playing at 144hz and would record "often" you would Never in a million years Pick Intel?

[Aspirix]

21 minutes ago, rn8686 said:

Unless you are playing at high refresh rates, R5 would be much better (R7 if you record often). 

And is waiting for the new cpus crazy?

[rn8686]

Just now, Aspirix said:

And is waiting for the new cpus crazy?

R3? Thats not going to be great to record with, Coffeelake wont be out until next year, and will probably be overpriced, dont bother.

[Aspirix]

3 minutes ago, rn8686 said:

R3? Thats not going to be great to record with, Coffeelake wont be out until next year, and will probably be overpriced, dont bother.

Okay was thinking about waiting for threadripper or the new Intels. Which R7 would you Pick and you would Never Pick Intel? Even if you had the budget ?

[rn8686]

Just now, Aspirix said:

Okay was thinking about waiting for threadripper or the new Intels. Which R7 would you Pick and you would Never Pick Intel? Even if you had the budget ?

Its not that I would never pick Intel (I own an i5), but rather that X299 is a mess and its really overpriced compared to Ryzen and thread ripper. If you really wanted the little but extra performance regardless of cost, you could go Intel, just dont expect good value for money. I wouldn't worry about thread ripper much unless you plan to do YT as a job, the 1700 is already pretty good at rendering as is. 

[DrMikeNZ]

2 hours ago, Aspirix said:

Interesting build Never thought of the 1600. But what if my budget were a bit higher?

Then a 1600, and a bunch of snacks.

If you are going to do a lot of recording or need more encoding performance, then go for the 1700.

 

1 hour ago, Aspirix said:

Okay was thinking about waiting for threadripper or the new Intels. Which R7 would you Pick and you would Never Pick Intel? Even if you had the budget ?

Pick Intel if you have a heavy AVX2 workload (which you won't) and stay away from X299 for a while, it is a terrible platform and could take months for motherboard manufacturers to figure out what they need to do, and if they even want to do it properly.

Threadripper will not give any benefits in gaming over an R7 1700, and will likely be slightly worse. It would boost video encoding quite a bit, although it would make more sense to just get a 1600 or 1700, save your extra cash, and if you need more processing power later, get a second PC as a dedicated encoding box.

[DisguisedDemise]

4 hours ago, Aspirix said:

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If you like to do alot of recording, the 7700K will probably be outperformed by its Ryzen Counterpart, and them stock coolers get me feeling a certain kind of way

[Aspirix]

13 minutes ago, DisguisedDemise said:

If you like to do alot of recording, the 7700K will probably be outperformed by its Ryzen Counterpart, and them stock coolers get me feeling a certain kind of way

What about the R7 1700x ? Is it worth taking that i stead of the 1700?

[DrMikeNZ]

12 minutes ago, Aspirix said:

What about the R7 1700x ? Is it worth taking that i stead of the 1700?

No, they are the same processor die. The 1700 is unlocked and can be overclocked to at least 3.8GHz. The performance difference between the 1700, 1700X and 1800X is marginal, also the 1700 comes with a stock cooler that can be very useful while waiting for an AM4 bracket from the supplier if you get an aftermarket cooler that requires a separate bracket.

The stock cooler with the 1700 works well. I ran my R7 1700 at 3.8GHz on the stock cooler.

[deepfriedcpus]

What resolution will you be gaming at ? Will you be streaming and doing multiple things while gaming ? Are you interested in overclocking ? Do you plan to upgrade within 2-3 years or are you going for longevity and future proofing on your build?

 

 

[Aspirix]

1 minute ago, deepfriedcpus said:

What resolution will you be gaming at ? Will you be streaming and doing multiple things while gaming ? Are you interested in overclocking ? Do you plan to upgrade within 2-3 years or are you going for longevity and future proofing on your build?

 

 

I am playing 1080p 144hz, plan on upgrading to 1440p 100hz. I am not doing youtube or twitch at all but would like to do some youtube, i play games as PUBG and Rainbow six siege, siege i need the good quality and High fps and PUBG i need High quality where fps dont matter as Much. 

 

I need a mostly gaming based PC but i would like it being abel to record fine. 

 

The pc Will not last all my life but get upgraded at some point 4 years mabye more mabye less

[Aspirix]

3 hours ago, rn8686 said:

Its not that I would never pick Intel (I own an i5), but rather that X299 is a mess and its really overpriced compared to Ryzen and thread ripper. If you really wanted the little but extra performance regardless of cost, you could go Intel, just dont expect good value for money. I wouldn't worry about thread ripper much unless you plan to do YT as a job, the 1700 is already pretty good at rendering as is. 

Which 1700 build would you make me if my budget is 1100 dollar?