Thoughts on This Build?

[CornyQuotient14]

Going to be used for possible streaming, AAA games, and would like to stay in the same price range. I have a high wattage PSU to add another graphics card eventually. Thank you for suggestions

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JvRmZ8

[Zando_]

Get better RAM like Corsair's Vengeance LPX or G.Skill's Trident Z. 

[lonely_sata_cable]

i would go for a 1060 6gb or a 580 8gb personally i would get a 1060 6gb because the ekwb fluid gaming supports that card

[A Silver]

Nice build but maybe get different RAM like @Zando Bob said

[Guest]

9 minutes ago, CornyQuotient14 said:

Going to be used for possible streaming, AAA games, and would like to stay in the same price range. I have a high wattage PSU to add another graphics card eventually. Thank you for suggestions

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4YKmZ8

Such a good build

[lonely_sata_cable]

6 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Get better RAM like Corsair's Vengeance LPX or G.Skill's Trident Z. 

ye i agree yopu can also lower on the mhz if you want put that money somewhere else

[Sanctorum]

Ryzen 7 is pointless if you're considering "possible streaming". R5 1600 would be more than enough. What monitor(s) will you be using with this system?

[Zando_]

Just now, lonely_sata_cable said:

ye i agree yopu can also lower on the mhz if you want put that money somewhere else

I wouldn't advise going any lower than 3000MHz for Ryzen. It needs fast RAM to reach it's full potential. 

[lonely_sata_cable]

ohhh yea i forgot this is true.

[CornyQuotient14]

1 minute ago, Zando Bob said:

I wouldn't advise going any lower than 3000MHz for Ryzen. It needs fast RAM to reach it's full potential. 

The board supports up to 2667 MHz though, thoughts?

[Zando_]

Just now, CornyQuotient14 said:

The board supports up to 2667 MHz though, thoughts?

I doubt that's the limit. It can probs go much higher, especially since it's an X370 gaming board. 

[Brooksie359]

4 minutes ago, Sanctorum said:

Ryzen 7 is pointless if you're considering "possible streaming". R5 1600 would be more than enough. What monitor(s) will you be using with this system?

It doesn't cost that much more and it does make a difference in streaming performance.

[CornyQuotient14]

3 minutes ago, Sanctorum said:

Ryzen 7 is pointless if you're considering "possible streaming". R5 1600 would be more than enough. What monitor(s) will you be using with this system?

Wouldn't the 8 cores help with multi tasking and such? Also; 2, 60hz, 24' monitors that are just laying in my house (I don't know refresh rates). Until later on

[CornyQuotient14]

2 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

I doubt that's the limit. It can probs go much higher, especially since it's an X370 gaming board. 

Whoops, misread something, my bad

[Brooksie359]

2 minutes ago, CornyQuotient14 said:

Wouldn't the 8 cores help with multi tasking and such? Also; 2, 60hz, 24' monitors that are just laying in my house (I don't know refresh rates). Until later on

Depends on how much multitasking. If you are going to stream the 1700 will do better than the 1600 depending on the game and it doesn't cost that much more for 2 extra cores. Also the 1070 you choose is way overpriced. I got my gaming x for 400 and you can get a zotac card or even asus card for much cheaper.

[CornyQuotient14]

1 minute ago, Brooksie359 said:

Depends on how much multitasking. If you are going to stream the 1700 will do better than the 1600 depending on the game and it doesn't cost that much more for 2 extra cores. Also the 1070 you choose is way overpriced. I got my gaming x for 400 and you can get a zotac card or even asus card for much cheaper.

I've been trying to look for a good 1070, so I just threw one on for the time being, do you have any specific 1070 you recommend with good price for performance?

[Brooksie359]

1 minute ago, CornyQuotient14 said:

I've been trying to look for a good 1070, so I just threw one on for the time being, do you have any specific 1070 you recommend with good price for performance?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GGPzK8/asus-geforce-gtx-1070-8gb-video-card-rog-strix-gtx1070-8g-gaming probably this or you can get the cheapest evga aftermarket card. The Asus will have the best performance you can get on a 1070 for 450. 

[CornyQuotient14]

Just now, Brooksie359 said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GGPzK8/asus-geforce-gtx-1070-8gb-video-card-rog-strix-gtx1070-8g-gaming probably this or you can get the cheapest evga aftermarket card. The Asus will have the best performance you can get on a 1070 for 450. 

Thank you

 

[Brooksie359]

1 minute ago, CornyQuotient14 said:

Thank you

 

Yeah no problem. It's strange 1070s are so high in price right now when they were like 350 dollars a couple of weeks ago. I guess it's the bitcoin craze.

[CornyQuotient14]

2 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

Yeah no problem. It's strange 1070s are so high in price right now when they were like 350 dollars a couple of weeks ago. I guess it's the bitcoin craze.

Its crazy, you could buy a really nice pc  if you mine long enough for a coin. i can't wait to see how its going to affect the threadripper or i9 series

[Sanctorum]

31 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

It doesn't cost that much more and it does make a difference in streaming performance.

It's more than $100 extra for an R7 1700 over a 1600. Or, 50% extra on top of the 1600 for 2 extra cores. When the 1600 is more than enough for gaming and "possible streaming".

30 minutes ago, CornyQuotient14 said:

Wouldn't the 8 cores help with multi tasking and such? Also; 2, 60hz, 24' monitors that are just laying in my house (I don't know refresh rates). Until later on

Sure, they'd help. Are they necessary? Absolutely not. It's a waste of money unless you absolutely know for a fact that you'll be streaming a lot. 2 x 1080p monitors? GTX 1070 is a bit overkill tbh.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($195.69 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty X370 Gaming K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($138.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($114.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX300 525GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($155.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($48.44 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB FTW Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card  ($444.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($103.49 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $1282.45
 

[Brooksie359]

37 minutes ago, Sanctorum said:

It's more than $100 extra for an R7 1700 over a 1600. Or, 50% extra on top of the 1600 for 2 extra cores. When the 1600 is more than enough for gaming and "possible streaming".

Sure, they'd help. Are they necessary? Absolutely not. It's a waste of money unless you absolutely know for a fact that you'll be streaming a lot. 2 x 1080p monitors? GTX 1070 is a bit overkill tbh.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($195.69 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty X370 Gaming K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($138.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($114.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX300 525GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($155.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($48.44 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB FTW Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card  ($444.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($103.49 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $1282.45
 

Dude the price dropped for the 1700 and it's a 1300 dollar build. 100 dollars is nothing for 2 extra cores for a 33% increase in the amount of cores. If they were doing a cheaper build I could see your point but not with a build of this price. 

[Sanctorum]

17 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

Dude the price dropped for the 1700

Yep, and it's still $100 more expensive than the R5 1600. Again, that's a 50% price increase(it's actually slightly more, but I rounded down for you).

18 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

and it's a 1300 dollar build

Irrelevant

18 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

100 dollars is nothing for 2 extra cores for a 33% increase in the amount of cores.

50% extra cost for 33% extra cores when the extra cores will make no difference for OP. Waste of money.

 

[Brooksie359]

45 minutes ago, Sanctorum said:

Yep, and it's still $100 more expensive than the R5 1600. Again, that's a 50% price increase(it's actually slightly more, but I rounded down for you).

Irrelevant

50% extra cost for 33% extra cores when the extra cores will make no difference for OP. Waste of money.

 

It's 100/1300 not 100/200. You clearly don't know how price to performance works when building a new system. That's like saying if you are buying a 100 dollar psu vs a 50 dollar one on a 2000 dollar build isn't worth it because it's a 100% increase in price. 

[Sanctorum]

6 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

It's 100/1300 not 100/200. 

Uwot. That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. R5 1600 is less than $200. R7 1700 is $300. That's more than a 50% price increase.

7 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

You clearly don't know how price to performance works when building a new system. 

Ironic. You're telling OP to wast $100 on a CPU he isn't going to fully utilise, instead of him getting the better value part for better price:performance.

8 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

That's like saying if you are buying a 100 dollar psu vs a 50 dollar one on a 2000 dollar build isn't worth it because it's a 100% increase in price. 

No, actually. It would be like comparing an 850W EVGA T2 to a 750W/850W EVGA G2. The G2 unit is almost half the price, and more than adequate for the vast majority of users. The T2 on the other hand, while being the superior PSU, is not worth the extra money.