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Just getting some help for a friend whos building his first computer, I gave him my advice but thought it would be good if I got him multiple peoples advice too!

 

His budget is about 900GBP and is going to use it for mid to high gaming, and for his uni work.

 

Thanks in advance for any help! :)

 

What he has so far: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/LqKnBP

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I'd highly recommend the Ryzen 5 1600 instead of the i5.

Plus, you have an unlocked CPU with a locked board - waste of money.

 

additionally, that SSD isn't the best. check the SSD tier list in my sig.

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little help for you guys:

900 GBP = 1027 EUR = 1149 USD

 "Aeneas troianus est."

I'm allergic to social interaction in real life, don't talk to me in real life please.

don't forget to quote or tag (@marten.aap2.0) me when you reply!

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2 minutes ago, RadiatingLight said:

additionally, that SSD isn't the best. check the SSD tier list in my sig.

I have 7 SSD SanDisk Plus g26 (120gb and 240gb), all functions perfectly fine with zero performance degradation over several months of intensive usage, the SSD is fine and one of the best budget friendly alternatives there is.

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Going AMD would help, but if you don't want to, get a 6500 or something because your mobo can't support OC and it doesn't support kaby lake exclusive features.

 

You can get a better SSD.

 

A beefier PSU would be nice.

Want to know which mobo to get?

Spoiler

Choose whatever you need. Any more, you're wasting your money. Any less, and you don't get the features you need.

 

Only you know what you need to do with your computer, so nobody's really qualified to answer this question except for you.

 

chEcK iNsidE sPoilEr fOr a tREat!

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- Better CPU

- Overclockable

- Larger SSD

- Better PSU

- Better Case (Elite Version)

- Costs Less

 

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (£193.05 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£74.84 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£120.08 @ More Computers)
Storage: Corsair - Force LE 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£71.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£41.88 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SSC GAMING Video Card  (£267.99 @ Ebuyer)
Case: NZXT - S340 Elite (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£77.16 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£64.80 @ Alza)
Total: £911.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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4 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

I have 7 SSD SanDisk Plus g26 (120gb and 240gb), all functions perfectly fine with zero performance degradation over several months of intensive usage, the SSD is fine and one of the best budget friendly alternatives there is.

I'm not talking about performance degredation. I'm talking about specs, like sequential read/write, random read/write, etc.

however, IDK too much about this, it's @Droidbot's list, so maybe he can more competently explain why it's in tier 4

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Just now, RadiatingLight said:

so maybe he can more competently explain why it's in tier 4

It is on tier 4 because it is a budget friendly SSD to begin with, aside synthetic benchmarks there is absolutely no difference really, my brother had to swap his failing Crucial MX300 for one of those and since he has felt absolutely no difference in real life performance what so ever, his notebook still is lighting fast as expected from any SSD.

 

Don't get me wrong I know I come a bit harsh but it is because people often lock their minds on details that makes no difference what so ever to hella lot of people who just want the cheapest possible to close the build budget and in this case that SSD fits in perfectly fine.

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Luna, the temporary Desktop:

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (£193.05 @ Ebuyer) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350-GAMING 3 ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£87.95 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (£72.00 @ Aria PC) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£85.94 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£85.44 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card  (£234.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£69.98 @ CCL Computers) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£64.80 @ Alza) 
Total: £894.14
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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My Laptop : Lenovo Z575 with 6 GB RAM (1866 MHz), Crucial MX300 525 GB & Western Digital 2 TB (Removed optical drive)

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2 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

It is on tier 4 because it is a budget friendly SSD to begin with, aside synthetic benchmarks there is absolutely no difference really, my brother had to swap his failing Crucial MX300 for one of those and since he has felt absolutely no difference in real life performance what so ever, his notebook still is lighting fast as expected from any SSD.

 

Don't get me wrong I know I come a bit harsh but it is because people often lock their minds on details that makes no difference what so ever to hella lot of people who just want the cheapest possible to close the build budget and in this case that SSD fits in perfectly fine.

He can use the SSD Plus if he wants to, but it was just informing him that not all SSDs are created equal.

I'm also not telling him he should spend an extra $50 on an SSD. a tier 1 SSD of the same storage size is only 1.53 pounds more.

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1 minute ago, domandric034 said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (£193.05 @ Ebuyer) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350-GAMING 3 ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£87.95 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (£72.00 @ Aria PC) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£85.94 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£85.44 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card  (£234.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£69.98 @ CCL Computers) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£64.80 @ Alza) 
Total: £894.14
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Why the 3TB HDD?

Why only 8GB RAM?

 

I'd suggest a 1 or 2TB HDD, with 16GB RAM.

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Delidded Core i7 4770K - GTX 1070 ROG Strix - 16GB DDR3 - Lots of RGB lights I never change

Laptop:

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1 minute ago, RadiatingLight said:

Why the 3TB HDD?

Why only 8GB RAM?

 

I'd suggest a 1 or 2TB HDD, with 16GB RAM.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (£193.05 @ Ebuyer) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350-GAMING 3 ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£87.95 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (£129.60 @ Aria PC) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£85.94 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£41.88 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card  (£234.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£69.98 @ CCL Computers) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£64.80 @ Alza) 
Total: £908.18
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-17 18:53 BST+0100

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My Laptop : Lenovo Z575 with 6 GB RAM (1866 MHz), Crucial MX300 525 GB & Western Digital 2 TB (Removed optical drive)

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3 minutes ago, domandric034 said:

Not too sure about this.. The uni course hes doing doesn't require him to have that much space and requires him to have a little more ram!

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Just now, Bembi said:

Not too sure about this.. The uni course hes doing doesn't require him to have that much space and requires him to have a little more ram!

Look at second build.

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3 minutes ago, domandric034 said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (£193.05 @ Ebuyer) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350-GAMING 3 ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£87.95 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (£129.60 @ Aria PC) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£85.94 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£41.88 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card  (£234.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£69.98 @ CCL Computers) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£64.80 @ Alza) 
Total: £908.18
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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this is getting really nitpicky now, and this is already a great build, but you can save a few bucks on an SSD by getting the corsair force LE 240GB (also tier 1), and use that spare money for an S340 elite.

 

edit:

or alternatively just save money and keep the build as it is.

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2 minutes ago, RadiatingLight said:

this is getting really nitpicky now, and this is already a great build, but you can save a few bucks on an SSD by getting the corsair force LE 240GB (also tier 1), and use that spare money for an S340 elite.

 

edit:

or alternatively just save money and keep the build as it is.

We would let OP decide if he wants to exchange SSD and case.

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Just now, domandric034 said:

We would let OP decide if he wants to exchange SSD and case.

yeah sure.

ultimately, it's OP's choice anyway.

just giving him the option to get a better case or save money.

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THERE YOU GO :DDDD

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (£193.05 @ Ebuyer) 
Motherboard: MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£86.80 @ Alza) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (£129.60 @ Aria PC) 
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£48.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£37.99 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING X Video Card  (£273.47 @ BT Shop) 
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£69.98 @ CCL Computers) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£64.80 @ Alza) 
Total: £904.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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40 minutes ago, HelpMeOrIWillSuffer said:

THERE YOU GO :DDDD

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (£193.05 @ Ebuyer) 
Motherboard: MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£86.80 @ Alza) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (£129.60 @ Aria PC) 
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£48.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£37.99 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING X Video Card  (£273.47 @ BT Shop) 
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£69.98 @ CCL Computers) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£64.80 @ Alza) 
Total: £904.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Thanks for the input friend! :D I'll forward this one over to him :)

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40 minutes ago, HelpMeOrIWillSuffer said:

THERE YOU GO :DDDD

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (£193.05 @ Ebuyer) 
Motherboard: MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£86.80 @ Alza) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (£129.60 @ Aria PC) 
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£48.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£37.99 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING X Video Card  (£273.47 @ BT Shop) 
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£69.98 @ CCL Computers) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£64.80 @ Alza) 
Total: £904.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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1. MSi has shitty boards avoid that

2. For that price he can 240-250-275 GB SSD

3. Avoid MSi in GPU field also shitty thermal solution

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6 hours ago, Princess Cadence said:

It is on tier 4 because it is a budget friendly SSD to begin with, aside synthetic benchmarks there is absolutely no difference really, my brother had to swap his failing Crucial MX300 for one of those and since he has felt absolutely no difference in real life performance what so ever, his notebook still is lighting fast as expected from any SSD.

 

Don't get me wrong I know I come a bit harsh but it is because people often lock their minds on details that makes no difference what so ever to hella lot of people who just want the cheapest possible to close the build budget and in this case that SSD fits in perfectly fine.

I put that SSD on T4 due to the variety of components used and the inconsistent performance as a result. 

 

SanDisk switch to the cheapest 'value nand' they can get their hands on, which is usually MLC or TLC, 20nm+. Which doesn't equal bad performance, but not insane performance either. 

They do this with their SSD PLUS and UltraII lines. 

 

I can't remember if they switch controllers as well, I think that was only UltraII and they changed it a little bit and left it backwards compatible with the old FW. 

 

And there is a difference outside of synthetics. An 840 EVO, even considering the cell drift issue, will often feel faster in the real world when compared to a cheaper SSD - they're cheaper for a reason. 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Droidbot said:

SanDisk switch to the cheapest 'value nand' they can get their hands on, which is usually MLC or TLC, 20nm+.

G25 was that mess, ever since they got into G26 all models are TLC only, any retailer I see so far states either it is.

 

2 minutes ago, Droidbot said:

An 840 EVO, even considering the cell drift issue, will often feel faster in the real world when compared to a cheaper SSD - they're cheaper for a reason. 

Exactly, they are cheaper for the reason of people needing them to be cheap, someone building a domestic usage computer or a gaming rig exclusive that just wishes their OS will be quick enough and reliable in longevity really won't bother with small variations in performance which was my point since the beginning.

 

All I wanted to bring up to the thread is that we often get too deep on details and we forget that the great majority of people what works and functions already is enough and pricing is the utmost deciding factor and I out of experience can say SanDisk does do excellent SSDs for the asking price.

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CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: AMD R9 7950XT  |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (£193.05 @ Ebuyer) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£75.77 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Patriot - Viper Elite 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  (£92.88 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£76.97 @ Ebuyer) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£37.99 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: Palit - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Dual Video Card  (£347.92 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - ECO 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (£44.96 @ Amazon UK) 
Other: Aerocool Aero-300 (£32.99)
Total: £902.53
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-18 02:59 BST+0100

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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22 hours ago, domandric034 said:

1. MSi has shitty boards avoid that

2. For that price he can 240-250-275 GB SSD

3. Avoid MSi in GPU field also shitty thermal solution

Excuse me? The MSI board is good :/

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