No display in working system with 1 gpu, but display with other gpu

[RoofDoor]

So basically I have tested my Gigabyte G1 Gaming gtx 970 in a different system(a) where it works without any hiccups, however when I put it in my other system(b) I can't seem to get a display. In system(b) I can put in my msi r9 270x in and it works without any hiccups. I have upgraded my power supply as I thought it was the issue, didn't work. I have tried replacing the ram, re-seating the ram, putting 1 piece of ram in each slot alone,cleared cmos several times, updated bios to p.4, unplugged every other device including hdd's, different hdmi cords, uninstalled all amd display drivers, all power connectors are in securely, and finally I have tried putting the gpu in a different slot with no success. I won't post the specs of system(a) unless needed. Keyboard doesn't light up and system doesn't get to bios.

 

System(b):

CPU: AMD FX6300

MOBO: MSI 970A SLI Krait Edition

PSU: Cougar STX 550W

RAM: XMS3 — 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 1600MHz C9 (CMX16GX3M4A1600C9)

GPU Working in system: MSI R9 270x 2g

GPU no display in system(b): Gigabyte G1 Gaming GTX 970

Monitor: Can't remember model(sticker gone) but a Samsung 1920:1080 21.5"

[MancorJ]

easy to forget thing, did you install driver via here?

 

[RoofDoor]

16 minutes ago, MancorJ said:

easy to forget thing, did you install driver via here?

 

The system doesn't get to bios so drivers can't be an issue?

[bcguru9384]

yes can be issue

download driver then run the installer

then install gpucard

the old cpu microcode would natively be an analog video signal till driver was installed if you notice vga has pretty much been benched to sideline so if gpucard wants ntsc type signal and nothing to send that signal you get no display

now if windows/linux would do vgamode thru cpu then you can get display(this used to be safemode)

 

install winxp then see if gpu displays

[RoofDoor]

1 hour ago, bcguru9384 said:

yes can be issue

download driver then run the installer

then install gpucard

the old cpu microcode would natively be an analog video signal till driver was installed if you notice vga has pretty much been benched to sideline so if gpucard wants ntsc type signal and nothing to send that signal you get no display

now if windows/linux would do vgamode thru cpu then you can get display(this used to be safemode)

 

install winxp then see if gpu displays

Does this statement still hold true if another gpu works in the system using the same hdmi cord?

Also I tried installing nvidia drivers and it wouldn't allow me to with an AMD GPU installed as that's the only one I have that works in there.

[bcguru9384]

yes as far as i know

during 90's and 00's the first step was driver install or device would not work

but engineers and software teams developed a generic type driver(vga based) to ease the call volume for people reporting having bad cards when they just failed to do the upgrade in correct order

 

do you eat your frozen waffle then toaster it?

 

since technology is ever changing order to complete is also changing

i still remember when agp was the shiznit but it also had huge steps for it to run well(like manual registry changes)

so put good card in then do driver install then shutdown pull gpu reboot no gpu.  do hold powerbutton shutdown put new gpu in and reboot.

 

now quick ? does your mobo have a pciex16 or is it a pciex8 slot? 

if its x8 then card(980) will not work....

[bcguru9384]

after reading the manufacturer specs are you hooking up the 6 pin power cables to 980

its a hungry card and will not run on slot power only

infact it may try to run itself in a 3 phase type power delivery

phase1 slot

phase2&3 6pin

[RoofDoor]

14 minutes ago, bcguru9384 said:

yes as far as i know

during 90's and 00's the first step was driver install or device would not work

but engineers and software teams developed a generic type driver(vga based) to ease the call volume for people reporting having bad cards when they just failed to do the upgrade in correct order

 

do you eat your frozen waffle then toaster it?

 

since technology is ever changing order to complete is also changing

i still remember when agp was the shiznit but it also had huge steps for it to run well(like manual registry changes)

so put good card in then do driver install then shutdown pull gpu reboot no gpu.  do hold powerbutton shutdown put new gpu in and reboot.

 

now quick ? does your mobo have a pciex16 or is it a pciex8 slot? 

if its x8 then card(980) will not work....

 

6 minutes ago, bcguru9384 said:

after reading the manufacturer specs are you hooking up the 6 pin power cables to 980

its a hungry card and will not run on slot power only

infact it may try to run itself in a 3 phase type power delivery

phase1 slot

phase2&3 6pin

This mobo does have a pciex16 slot, and it is a 970, all power cables are connected, in this case 1x8 pin & 1x6 pin

[bcguru9384]

i figured you had it hooked up right but still gotta ask

i still think its an issue with mobo and its bios to uefi handoff (or lack of)

the newer cards run uefi type system on their pcb but older cards are bios

if mobo uefi fails to see this then card fail to initialize  

 

how does uefi tell bios im in charge?

uses bbs board

old school web jargon that kinda explains how i feel it works

 

[RoofDoor]

1 hour ago, bcguru9384 said:

i figured you had it hooked up right but still gotta ask

i still think its an issue with mobo and its bios to uefi handoff (or lack of)

the newer cards run uefi type system on their pcb but older cards are bios

if mobo uefi fails to see this then card fail to initialize  

 

how does uefi tell bios im in charge?

uses bbs board

old school web jargon that kinda explains how i feel it works

 

Yeah I have made the mistake in the past of not plugging in a cord so I always make sure now, I should probably have said that this gpu used to work on the same mobo a few months back before I upgraded to a new system, it had all the same parts except a different psu, so same cpu mobo etc, so I purchased a new psu and the problem remained, so I am a little stumped at the moment