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2 minutes ago, Hoseiny said:

RYZEN 5 1600(not X) vs i7 7700 (not-K) for pure gaming only (i'mnot planning to overclocking) ?

can you help because i am afarid of future proofing that people talking about ?

Future proofing is an impossible concept. You cannot achieve it, so do not worry about it. As for which setup is better for strictly gaming, it's hard to say considering you won't be overclocking. Technically speaking, the 7700 has a better boost table that will allow it to boost to 4.2ghz, while the 1600 (non X) is only capable of a 3.6ghz turbo boost. This 600mhz difference in core clocks, on top of a slight IPC disadvantage (roughly 5-7%) means the 1600 will fall behind in single thread-bound titles.

 

That being said, for the future, the Ryzen platform has a better upgrade path, and the CPU's are unlocked. This means if you need additional performance, it wouldn't be out of the question to take that 1600 to 3.8-4ghz (depending on luck of the draw) to close the mhz gap. It will still fall behind in single threaded scenarios (the 7700's all-core boost is 4ghz, with a single core being able to boost to 4.2) and that 5-7% deficit in IPC still exists, you will still see better minimum framerates in titles that can leverage the additional cores. Multi-tasking will also be smoother on the Ryzen rig, due to the slight core count advantage.

 

If you are not overclocking, and do not plan to overclock at all in the future, I'd have to say that the Intel rig is better for what you plan on doing. If you feel like you are wanting to OC, and do so on a stricter budget, Ryzen offers the most bang for your buck at the moment. 

For pure gaming, you're better off going with the 7700. 

 

Note that if you ever plan on streaming or doing productivity work, the value of the 7700 starts to diminish.

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Intel has the edge for 1080p right now, moving into 1440p or 2160p Ryzen catches up plus there's also additional Ryzen BIOS fixes incoming.

 

It might be worth holding off for a month or so and see what happens when Ryzens new BIOSes drop.

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2 minutes ago, Hoseiny said:

RYZEN 5 1600(not X) vs i7 7700 (not-K) for pure gaming only (i'mnot planning to overclocking) ?

can you help because i am afarid of future proofing that people talking about ?

Future proofing is an impossible concept. You cannot achieve it, so do not worry about it. As for which setup is better for strictly gaming, it's hard to say considering you won't be overclocking. Technically speaking, the 7700 has a better boost table that will allow it to boost to 4.2ghz, while the 1600 (non X) is only capable of a 3.6ghz turbo boost. This 600mhz difference in core clocks, on top of a slight IPC disadvantage (roughly 5-7%) means the 1600 will fall behind in single thread-bound titles.

 

That being said, for the future, the Ryzen platform has a better upgrade path, and the CPU's are unlocked. This means if you need additional performance, it wouldn't be out of the question to take that 1600 to 3.8-4ghz (depending on luck of the draw) to close the mhz gap. It will still fall behind in single threaded scenarios (the 7700's all-core boost is 4ghz, with a single core being able to boost to 4.2) and that 5-7% deficit in IPC still exists, you will still see better minimum framerates in titles that can leverage the additional cores. Multi-tasking will also be smoother on the Ryzen rig, due to the slight core count advantage.

 

If you are not overclocking, and do not plan to overclock at all in the future, I'd have to say that the Intel rig is better for what you plan on doing. If you feel like you are wanting to OC, and do so on a stricter budget, Ryzen offers the most bang for your buck at the moment. 

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You can get an R5 1600 AND a decent motherboard for the same price as an i7-7700 alone. So, assuming you're not gaming at 1080p 144Hz, I'd go Ryzen and put the extra money towards a better GPU because R5+better GPU, will absolutely perform better in games than an i7-7700 with a cheaper GPU.

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