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So, built my own system, blah blah blah, now we are here. I upgraded today, or so I thought, by moving from an EVGA 4gb 960 in the small form factor to a full sized XFX GTR Black Edition 8gb 480. And then my average fps in mincraft dropped by 20fps on average (33-40% lower frames). What the actual fuck. But then I run Time Spy and score just under 4300 (4299 was exact score lol) Is there any settings I should be changing or what because I'm literally shocked. Before anyone breaks into the whole, "why the fuck do you have a 480 for minecraft, I sold my 960 for 120$ and my friend sold me his second 480 for 180 because his phone bill was way too high this month. can Anyone fill me in as to why my system is preforming like shit? 

 

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6600k @4.7ghz (4702mhz was max recorded in timespy)

msi z170a pro mobo

16gbs hyperx ddr4 @2400mhz 

hyper 212 cooler

Corsair ax860i psu 

Inwin 303 with 6 case fans (cooling shouldnt be an issue)

 

*Used DDU through integrated Graphics

Current Drivers 17.10.1731

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Did you un-install drivers first? 

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9 hours ago, Le Sulfur said:

Try updating drivers maybe?

Installed the card with new drivers not more than 3 hours ago

9 hours ago, nerdslayer1 said:

did you DDU? 

yes lol, I'm not that dumb

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5 minutes ago, pjsmith727 said:

So, built my own system, blah blah blah, now we are here. I upgraded today, or so I thought, by moving from an EVGA 4gb 960 in the small form factor to a full sized XFX GTR Black Edition 8gb 480. And then my average fps in mincraft dropped by 20fps on average (33-40% lower frames). What the actual ****. But then I run Time Spy and score just under 4300 (4299 was exact score lol) Is there any settings I should be changing or what because I'm literally shocked. Before anyone breaks into the whole, "why the **** do you have a 480 for minecraft, I sold my 960 for 120$ and my friend sold me his second 480 for 180 because his phone bill was way too high this month. can Anyone fill me in as to why my system is preforming like ****? 

 

Specs:

6600k @4.7ghz (4702mhz was max recorded in timespy)

msi z170a pro mobo

16gbs hyperx ddr4 @2400mhz 

hyper 212 cooler

Corsair ax860i psu 

Inwin 303 with 6 case fans (cooling shouldnt be an issue)

 

*Used DDU through integrated Graphics

Current Drivers 17.10.1731

The RX480 sucks in LWJGL games (like minecraft). The only place they really shine is in Vulkan games. I'm using my EVGA GeForce GTX 960 4GB SSC and it treats me just fine. Stick to nvidia.

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2 minutes ago, Loagster said:

Stick to nvidia.

you tell me this after i sell the 960 to a bitcoin miner lmao

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2 minutes ago, Loagster said:

The RX480 sucks in LWJGL games (like minecraft). The only place they really shine is in Vulkan games. I'm using my EVGA GeForce GTX 960 4GB SSC and it treats me just fine. Stick to nvidia.

To be fair, the 480 is faster across the board http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-960-vs-AMD-RX-480/3165vs3634, so there really shouldn't be a -20 fps difference in minecraft.

 

When in doubt, reinstall windows

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Just now, Le Sulfur said:

To be fair, the 480 is faster across the board http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-960-vs-AMD-RX-480/3165vs3634, so there really shouldn't be a -20 fps difference in minecraft.

 

When in doubt, reinstall windows

I had an RX480, and it sucked. I got similar results to the OP. OP, don't waste your time reinstalling windows.

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9 hours ago, Loagster said:

The RX480 sucks in LWJGL games (like minecraft).

Minecraft is mostly a CPU depended on games, OP has another issue. 

9 hours ago, Loagster said:

I had an RX480, and it sucked. I got similar results to the OP. OP, don't waste your time reinstalling windows.

you are being biased, i am assuming you never owned a rx480. 

9 hours ago, Loagster said:

Stick to nvidia.

vary biast advice, stick to whatever is better for the price range, rx480 beats a 1060 in terms of performance, comparing a gtx 960 to a rx480 is a bit unfair.  

9 hours ago, pjsmith727 said:

you tell me this after i sell the 960 to a bitcoin miner lmao

reinstall windows, something else is wrong with your system. 

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9 minutes ago, Loagster said:

Stick to nvidia.

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1 minute ago, nerdslayer1 said:

reinstall windows, something else is wrong with your system. 

It's not a Windows problem, it's a hardware issue. It's funny how he gets problems RIGHT AFTER installing a new card.

 

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you are being biased, i am assuming you never owned a rx480. 

Why would I claim that I owned an RX480 if I didn't? It excelled at Vulkan games, I'll give it that, but it didn't work well in OpenGL and DX11/12 titles.

 

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Minecraft is mostly a CPU depended on games, OP has another issue. 

LWJGL uses OpenGL to render graphics. The CPU doesn't do that, the GPU does.

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Just now, Loagster said:

It's not a Windows problem, it's a hardware issue. It's funny how he gets problems RIGHT AFTER installing a new card.

 

...could be a software issue or a defect. 

 

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Why would I claim that I owned an RX480 if I didn't? It excelled at Vulkan games, I'll give it that, but it didn't work well in OpenGL and DX11/12 titles.

 

so you downgraded from a rx480 to a 960? 

 

1 minute ago, Loagster said:

LWJGL uses OpenGL to render graphics. The CPU doesn't do that, the GPU does.

 

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1 minute ago, Loagster said:

LWJGL uses OpenGL to render graphics. The CPU doesn't do that, the GPU does.

so would you suggest turning advanced open gl off?

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Just now, pjsmith727 said:

so would you suggest turning advanced open gl off?

Sadly, that's not the issue. Minecraft is built on OpenGL.

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so would you suggest turning advanced open gl off?

considering it can run modded Minecraft, it shouldn't have issues with vanilla. 

 

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8 hours ago, Loagster said:

Sadly, that's not the issue. Minecraft is built on OpenGL.

well fuck hahaha

8 hours ago, nerdslayer1 said:

considering it can run modded Minecraft, it shouldn't have issues with vanilla. 

lolllllll this is modded lmao like 205 total mods modded and my frinde with near identical system and non overclocked cpu gets higher frames at 4k

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1 minute ago, nerdslayer1 said:

... it could be a software issue or defect.

That's very unlikely.

so you downgraded from a rx480 to a 960? 

No, I was upgrading to an RX480.

 

Are these shaders running on OpenGL?
I was getting about 50FPS on my RX480 with an i7-6700k.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Loagster said:

It's not a Windows problem, it's a hardware issue. It's funny how he gets problems RIGHT AFTER installing a new card.

 

Why would I claim that I owned an RX480 if I didn't? It excelled at Vulkan games, I'll give it that, but it didn't work well in OpenGL and DX11/12 titles.

 

LWJGL uses OpenGL to render graphics. The CPU doesn't do that, the GPU does.

My 480 has beat my friends 960 in every game including minecraft. It does fine in those titles

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Boys, boys, we all fucking good. System reboot brought me from 27ave to 100+ave somehow. Idk how my computer has achieved this wizardry, but we good now

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Boys, boys, we all fucking good. System reboot brought me from 27ave to 100+ave somehow. Idk how my computer has achieved this wizardry, but we good now

Lol

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8 hours ago, Loagster said:

Are these shaders running on OpenGL?

yes, this is open GL graphic API that uses for shaders mod. 

8 hours ago, pjsmith727 said:

Boys, boys, we all fucking good. System reboot brought me from 27ave to 100+ave somehow. Idk how my computer has achieved this wizardry, but we good now

a moment of silent for the guy who downgraded, from a rx480 to a gtx 960. 

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1 minute ago, pjsmith727 said:

Boys, boys, we all fucking good. System reboot brought me from 27ave to 100+ave somehow. Idk how my computer has achieved this wizardry, but we good now

lol, rebooting is always first thing you should do if you run into issues like this, can save a lot of time and headache.

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1 minute ago, nerdslayer1 said:

yes, this is open GL graphic API that uses for shaders mod. 

 

Hilarious. You don't actually know if this is running in OpenGL, you copied part of "dauxanh 64"s comment from that YouTube video.

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2 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

 

you are something else. 

I think he's implying he had a 960, purchased a 480 intending it to be an upgrade (it should be), somehow got worse performance, so swapped back to his 960. That's not that hard to understand lol

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