4770 vs 1400?

[Guest]

This is purely hypothetical but i was wondering which would be the best and how similar they would be. From what I know, ryzen has a similar IPC to haswell, and a 200mhz OC would give them the same clock speeds. Other than that they would both be quad cores with HT and 8mb of cache. these two chips seem quite similar and i cannot seem to find any benchmarks. If anyone knows, or has any information that would be cool.

 

[3 Lions]

The 4770 would be better in gaming as it has slightly better single core performance. 

[RadiatingLight]

Probably the 4770 since it's a monolithic die, and doesn't need to deal with the CCX.

But, it really could change anytime. with FineWine^TM tech, the 1400 will probably be the better long-term choice. especially because it's on a better socket.

[Zyndo]

6 minutes ago, Ethan Meskin said:

This is purely hypothetical but i was wondering which would be the best and how similar they would be. From what I know, ryzen has a similar IPC to haswell, and a 200mhz OC would give them the same clock speeds. Other than that they would both be quad cores with HT and 8mb of cache. these two chips seem quite similar and i cannot seem to find any benchmarks. If anyone knows, or has any information that would be cool.

 

It would depend on the clockspeed really. Since Ryzen is so easily overclockable, if you were willing to do that (even on the stock cooler) it would pull ahead. if we're talking strictly stock settings, the 4770 would have a slight edge.

 

If you consider other factors beyond CPU performance (since they're so close together) such as the entire platform, Ryzen has a pretty significant lead over haswell in this regard, which means if you're considering buying either part(s) from scratch (even if a similar price) then the way to go is Ryzen.

[Guest]

Just now, Zyndo said:

It would depend on the clockspeed really. Since Ryzen is so easily overclockable, if you were willing to do that (even on the stock cooler) it would pull ahead. if we're talking strictly stock settings, the 4770 would have a slight edge.

 

If you consider other factors beyond CPU performance (since they're so close together) such as the entire platform, Ryzen has a pretty significant lead over haswell in this regard, which means if you're considering buying either part(s) from scratch (even if a similar price) then the way to go is Ryzen.

I'm not considering buying one, I'm either buying a 7500 or a 1400 as an upgrade to my g4560 and was just curious

[PCGuy_5960]

10 minutes ago, RadiatingLight said:

But, it really could change anytime. with FineWine^TM tech, the 1400 will probably be the better long-term choice. especially because it's on a better socket.

You do know that Fine wine is for GPUs only, right?

[RadiatingLight]

2 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

You do know that Fine wine is for GPUs only, right?

You never know.

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, RadiatingLight said:

Probably the 4770 since it's a monolithic die, and doesn't need to deal with the CCX.

But, it really could change anytime. with FineWine^TM tech, the 1400 will probably be the better long-term choice. especially because it's on a better socket.

It was as I said hypothetical but what you say makes sense

[Guest]

1 hour ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

The 4770 would be better in gaming as it has slightly better single core performance. 

from ipc or the 200mhz clock? or both

[Drak3]

1 minute ago, Ethan Meskin said:

from ipc or the 200mhz clock? or both

IPC is basically the same, and the 4770 is locked, so its clock speed doesn't mean muich if you ever OC the 1400 The advantages of the 1400 are:

A) Newer platform, and AMD supports their platforms longer.

B) The 8 lanes of PCIe 2.0 are from the 1400, if you choose a board that gives you access to them. With the 4770, those lanes are from the chipset and have higher latency and lower bandwidth

C) The 1400 is unlocked, so you could push it to higher clocks, and make it better than the 4770.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Drak3 said:

IPC is basically the same, and the 4770 is locked, so its clock speed doesn't mean muich if you ever OC the 1400 The advantages of the 1400 are:

A) Newer platform, and AMD supports their platforms longer.

B) The 8 lanes of PCIe 2.0 are from the 1400, if you choose a board that gives you access to them. With the 4770, those lanes are from the chipset and have higher latency and lower bandwidth

C) The 1400 is unlocked, so you could push it to higher clocks, and make it better than the 4770.

Yeah, i know the 1400 is a better buy, this is just a hypothetical comparison because the chips looked very similar

[SpaceGhostC2C]

2 hours ago, Ethan Meskin said:

ryzen has a similar IPC to haswell, and a 200mhz OC would give them the same clock speeds. Other than that they would both be quad cores with HT and 8mb of cache.

That is your answer.

[Guest]

9 minutes ago, SpaceGhostC2C said:

That is your answer.

right then

[AxisHax66]

2 hours ago, Ethan Meskin said:

This is purely hypothetical but i was wondering which would be the best and how similar they would be. From what I know, ryzen has a similar IPC to haswell, and a 200mhz OC would give them the same clock speeds. Other than that they would both be quad cores with HT and 8mb of cache. these two chips seem quite similar and i cannot seem to find any benchmarks. If anyone knows, or has any information that would be cool.

 

Check UserBenchmark's website (http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-4770-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-1400/1978vs3922), you can compare almost every CPU.

[jjohnthedon1]

Not to mention ddr4 .......