First Build: Two options + suggestions

[Gansters12]

Hi there, I'm doing my first build and I'd like to be around the $2000 range. I have setup two possible options and would like everyones input on a few items.

Build Goals:

1440p @ ~144Hz

NO case compromise

Relatively silent

Prefer chiclet keyboard & selected mouse

 

Potential questions:

RAM

       -speed vs. latency

       -more channels better?

Ryzen vs Intel cpu and mobo?

       - more threads?

       - Ryzen better in future?

Liquid vs Air cooling

       - Which is quieter/better temps?

       - GIANT heat spreader vs. rad?

 

Option 1:

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dBKsFd
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dBKsFd/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i5-7600K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($228.49 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H55 57.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($59.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX Z270-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($184.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB TURBO Video Card  ($509.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Evolv ATX Glass ATX Mid Tower Case  ($170.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular Fanless ATX Power Supply  ($129.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: Dell - S2417DG 23.8" 2560x1440 165Hz Monitor  ($399.00 @ Adorama)
Keyboard: Cougar - 200K Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($34.90 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Logitech - G403 Prodigy Wireless Optical Mouse  ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2158.20

 

Option 2:

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kQmNHN
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kQmNHN/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($215.98 @ PCM)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H55 57.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($59.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - X370 KILLER SLI/ac ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($138.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Value 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($141.42 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($184.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB TURBO Video Card  ($509.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Evolv ATX Glass ATX Mid Tower Case  ($170.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular Fanless ATX Power Supply  ($129.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: Dell - S2417DG 23.8" 2560x1440 165Hz Monitor  ($399.00 @ Adorama)
Keyboard: Cougar - 200K Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($34.90 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Logitech - G403 Prodigy Wireless Optical Mouse  ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2086.11

 

*Also, would it be worth it just to get a 1080 Ti?

 

[Guest]

1. Liquid vs Air, air is cooler no doubt

2. That looks like an awful way of spending stuff. First off you have a 120mm cooler H55 which is significantly louder than 240/360mm cooler

Secondly, Asus Turbo is a blower style card, it is also loud and hot. IT seems like you are going against silent build

Third, a fanless PSU is quiet but most Seasonic PSU are already silent even with fans and some can run fanless mode, save money too

Fourth that looks like a very cheap keyboard paired with a very expensive mouse. I would never buy a keyboard that's cheaper than a mouse

Fifth, 850 Evo is a bad value as they cost too much

Sixth, If you go with Ryzen look for 3000 Mhz and up memory modules, it has been shown to improve performance by few percent more

Eighth, both Intel Kaby Lake and Ryzen only supports maximum of 2 channels so basically a kit of 2 RAM or 4 RAM sticks is good but odd numbers like 1 and 3 won't work. The benefit of Single channel and Dual channel isn't huge but well it is prettier to have 2 RAM sticks in a build vs just 1. 

Ninth, Get a 1080 Ti if you play extremely demanding games. 

Tenth, Ryzen 7 would suit you better if you do streaming and gaming at the same time. An i7 7700k is what everyone should buy if they want to game only, i5 7600k will bottleneck a GTX 1080, in some case it could do to a 1070 which limits performance of the GPU (the GPU could potentially output more frames but the CPU is bit weak and hold it back, especially with a 144Hz monitor)

Eleventh, that's a very expensive case.

Finally, I will make a new list for you.  

 

[Zando_]

3 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

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Also, with $2K to spend, why not get a 1080 Ti?

[paddy-stone]

I would go with thsi instead, much better IMO for parts, you can even just get a EVAG PSU 650 if you want to spend less. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/M8Rwf8

[PCMasterDebater]

33 minutes ago, Gansters12 said:

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MrTZ3F

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($329.49 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-U14S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI - Z270-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($109.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($101.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($83.36 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda ES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB GAMING X Video Card  ($719.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair - 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12G 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  ($61.49 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: AOC - U2879VF 28.0" 3840x2160 60Hz Monitor  ($299.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1869.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-02 11:19 EDT-0400

 

This build walks all over what you have posted above, with budget left over for mouse and keyboard.

[Guest]

My build

Zotac AMP card is very silent

Reviews: http://vr-zone.com/articles/zotac-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-amp-edition-review/126139.html

http://www.funkykit.com/reviews/video-cards/zotac-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-amp-edition-11gb-gddr5x-review/4/

 

Be Quiet Dark Rock 3 is also one of the most silent cooler you can get

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($329.49 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler  ($64.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI - Z270 SLI PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($124.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Team - T-Force / Night Hawk 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($144.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AMP Edition Video Card  ($699.00 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.86 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Dell - S2417DG 23.8" 2560x1440 165Hz Monitor  ($399.00 @ Adorama)
Keyboard: Logitech - G610 Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Logitech - G502 Wired Optical Mouse  ($51.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2149.18
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-02 11:15 EDT-0400

[Herman Mcpootis]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($309.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright - Le Grand Macho RT 73.6 CFM CPU Cooler  ($79.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI - Z270 SLI PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($106.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team - T-Force / Night Hawk 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($104.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($144.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Gaming OC 11G  Video Card  ($683.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400 TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: Dell - S2417DG 23.8" 2560x1440 165Hz Monitor  ($399.00 @ Adorama) 
Keyboard: Corsair - Vengeance K65 Compact Mechanical Gaming Keyboard Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Mouse: Corsair - Sabre RGB Wired Optical Mouse  ($39.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2109.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-02 11:27 EDT-0400

[Gansters12]

1 hour ago, PCMasterDebater said:

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Of course your build walks all over mine, because you missed the point of the build I'm going for...anyone can choose to go all out on the cpu & gpu and then compromise on virtually every area to save money. Key areas I will not change are the 1440p 144hz monitor and the case. If I'm gonna drop 2k gaming, I'm gonna make damn sure I like the case and seeing the internals I spent so much on.

[Gansters12]

After some shuffling...here's what I have come up with.

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sxNsFd
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sxNsFd/by_merchant/

 

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($299.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - X370 KILLER SLI/ac ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($138.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($149.94 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AMP Edition Video Card  ($699.00 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Evolv ATX Glass ATX Mid Tower Case  ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: BitFenix - Whisper M 450W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: Dell - S2417DG 23.8" 2560x1440 165Hz Monitor  ($399.00 @ Adorama)
Keyboard: Cougar - 200K Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($34.90 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Logitech - G403 Prodigy Wireless Optical Mouse  ($99.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $2183.67

I think this is an excellent improvement...the cpu & gpu are better and I keep the monitor/case I want without any real sacrifices. Let me know your thoughts! Also, thanks for the help!!

[Guest]

450w is bit low

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Gansters12 said:

After some shuffling...here's what I have come up with.

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sxNsFd
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sxNsFd/by_merchant/

 

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($299.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - X370 KILLER SLI/ac ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($138.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($149.94 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AMP Edition Video Card  ($699.00 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Evolv ATX Glass ATX Mid Tower Case  ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: BitFenix - Whisper M 450W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: Dell - S2417DG 23.8" 2560x1440 165Hz Monitor  ($399.00 @ Adorama)
Keyboard: Cougar - 200K Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($34.90 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Logitech - G403 Prodigy Wireless Optical Mouse  ($99.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $2183.67

I think this is an excellent improvement...the cpu & gpu are better and I keep the monitor/case I want without any real sacrifices. Let me know your thoughts! Also, thanks for the help!!

That Bitfenix psu has the ugliest 24 pin cable known to man  If you are going for aesthetics then maybe look at a different unit or buy a 24 pin extension cable.

 

For the SSD don't bother with an M.2. Just go with the regular SATA version. An M.2 slot should be saved for an NVMe SSD if you ever buy one.

 

I would go with the SK Hynix - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/w6DzK8/sk-hynix-sl308-500gb-25-solid-state-drive-hfs500g32tnd-n1a2a

[PCMasterDebater]

2 hours ago, Gansters12 said:

Of course your build walks all over mine, because you missed the point of the build I'm going for...anyone can choose to go all out on the cpu & gpu and then compromise on virtually every area to save money. Key areas I will not change are the 1440p 144hz monitor and the case. If I'm gonna drop 2k gaming, I'm gonna make damn sure I like the case and seeing the internals I spent so much on.

Wow. A bit defensive?  Did you even read what I posted for you? The monitor you chose was within the build I listed for you.

 

Well. At least I tried to help you. Not like you ever helped me with anything.

A thank you would have been nice. You're a newbie though, most newbs think people are attacking them when they are only trying to help.

[Aereldor]

3 hours ago, herman mcpootis said:

CPU: Intel - Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($309.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Glad to see more people recommending the 6700k; it doesn't suffer from the same thermal compound issues and is usually a steal at Micro Center too.

No need to recommend a Z270 motherboard, though.

[The Sloth]

6 minutes ago, PCMasterDebater said:

Wow. A bit defensive?  Did you even read what I posted for you? The monitor you chose was within the build I listed for you.

 

Well. At least I tried to help you. Not like you ever helped me with anything.

A thank you would have been nice. You're a newbie though, most newbs think people are attacking them when they are only trying to help.

don't try to take everything personally

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

don't try to take everything personally

He is just starting a debate, look at his name 

[Gansters12]

5 hours ago, PCMasterDebater said:

 

Monitor: AOC - U2879VF 28.0" 3840x2160 60Hz Monitor  ($299.99 @ Amazon)

The monitor you chose was 4k, not 1440p. Wasn't taking things personally, your suggestion just seemed to lack the preferences I had highlighted at the beginning.

 

Yeah, a SATA SSD is all fine and stuff but the m.2 one is just $5 more so I thought what the hell?

 

As for PSU, I changed it to Corsair 550W RMx: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3zNypg/corsair-power-supply-cp9020090na

 

And the cables don't bother me...I may just get a few from cable mod to make things look nice. I'm gonna see in from both sides anyway!

 

[PCMasterDebater]

1 hour ago, deXxterlab97 said:

He is just starting a debate, look at his name 

You read my name wrong. Take out the 'DE'..

 

Yeah. There ya go.