PC for Work/Gaming for my SO

[Aluavin]

Hi there,

 

so my SO needs a PC for her work (motion tracking, cutting,  all that Adobe Creative Cloud Stuff/Avid Media Stuff and some gaming. She works as a freelancer in Trailer/TV-Ad production.

Right now she is only working on my Rig (see 2nd PCPartPicker-List) or on her old Dell Laptop (from 2012). She works there when I occupy my PC for gaming or something else.

 

This is not ideal for both of us since I can't play when she needs my PC so she decided that she wants to invest in a PC. Since she has limited knowledge of building something on her own she asked me to do it. Her budget is kinda small (~1k €) but she needs some horses. From my observations Adobe AE doesn't care about the graphics card so I plan to give her my old MSI GTX 970 Gaming 4G which is collecting dust atm and it still can run games pretty decent.

 

This results in the  following shopping list:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor  (€254.24 @ Mindfactory) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€97.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (€128.98 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€153.83 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: Corsair - 330R Titanium Edition ATX Mid Tower Case  (€103.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply 
Case Fan: Corsair - Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition 67.8 CFM  140mm Fan  (€19.45 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case Fan: Corsair - Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition 67.8 CFM  140mm Fan  (€19.45 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €777.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-01 16:46 CEST+0200

 

This build I have in mind for a couple of weeks and I'm not that convinced. So I thought: Maybe it's better to Upgrade my PC and go with Virtualisation (I plan to Upgrade my 2*24" Monitors to a 34" Ultrawide, but not sure which on right now and it's irrelevant).

Mine right now is this one:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H115i 104.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Asus - Z170 PRO GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory
Storage: Samsung - 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (Steam, uplay, origin etc.) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 Pro Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (Windows lives here)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Green 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive (this one was a failure but still have it build in but nothing is stored here)
Storage: Western Digital - BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (Games and Documents)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB AMP! Extreme Video Card 
Case: Corsair - Air 740 ATX Full Tower Case 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply 
Monitor: Dell - U2414H 23.8" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor 
Monitor: Dell - U2414H 23.8" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor 

 

So is it reasonable to go for an unRaid upgrade (i7 77k, bit more ram, maybe z270, 2nd 850evo pro, more HDD Storage) on mine or do you think it makes more sense to build her a dedicated PC?

From my understanding I can allocate more Ressources (CPU Cores, RAM) to my SO VM when it's needed (aka time critical stuff), a reboot of the System and VM shouldn't take ages.

 

Thoughts and recommendations please, i confused myself

[Memorizer]

3 minutes ago, Aluavin said:

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An R5 1600 will do you the same for the lower price.

[DocSwag]

What's your budget?

 

I think getting another pc for her is a better option. There's some stuff I wanna change for your list tho  

[Guest]

What is SO?

[Guest]

1 minute ago, deXxterlab97 said:

What is SO?

Significant Other

[Billy_Mays]

2 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

What is SO?

Significant other so GF, wife, fiancée 

[domandric034]

16 minutes ago, Aluavin said:

Hi there,

 

so my SO needs a PC for her work (motion tracking, cutting,  all that Adobe Creative Cloud Stuff/Avid Media Stuff and some gaming. She works as a freelancer in Trailer/TV-Ad production.

Right now she is only working on my Rig (see 2nd PCPartPicker-List) or on her old Dell Laptop (from 2012). She works there when I occupy my PC for gaming or something else.

 

This is not ideal for both of us since I can't play when she needs my PC so she decided that she wants to invest in a PC. Since she has limited knowledge of building something on her own she asked me to do it. Her budget is kinda small (~1k €) but she needs some horses. From my observations Adobe AE doesn't care about the graphics card so I plan to give her my old MSI GTX 970 Gaming 4G which is collecting dust atm and it still can run games pretty decent.

 

This results in the  following shopping list:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor  (€254.24 @ Mindfactory) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€97.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (€128.98 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€153.83 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: Corsair - 330R Titanium Edition ATX Mid Tower Case  (€103.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply 
Case Fan: Corsair - Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition 67.8 CFM  140mm Fan  (€19.45 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case Fan: Corsair - Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition 67.8 CFM  140mm Fan  (€19.45 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €777.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-01 16:46 CEST+0200

 

Just get this for her. 1600 comes with nice stock cooler. 

 

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/bTTPWX

Component	Selection	Base Price	Promo	Shipping	Tax	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor	€212.45		€7.99		€220.44		Buy
Motherboard	Gigabyte - GA-AB350-GAMING 3 ATX AM4 Motherboard	€108.33		€7.99		€116.32		Buy
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	€142.89		€7.99		€150.88		Buy
Storage	Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	€92.25		€7.99		€100.24		Buy
	Western Digital - Blue 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive	€67.47		€7.99		€75.46		Buy
Case	Corsair - 200R ATX Mid Tower Case	€59.85		€7.99		€67.84		Buy
Power Supply	SeaSonic - G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply	€73.03		€7.99		€81.02		Buy
Total (7 / 7 Items):						€812.20

 

And if you plan to get new rig for unRAID then rock Xeon E5 (v3 or v4)

[paddy-stone]

1 hour ago, domandric034 said:

Just get this for her. 1600 comes with nice stock cooler. 

 

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/bTTPWX

Component	Selection	Base Price	Promo	Shipping	Tax	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor	€212.45		€7.99		€220.44		Buy
Motherboard	Gigabyte - GA-AB350-GAMING 3 ATX AM4 Motherboard	€108.33		€7.99		€116.32		Buy
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	€142.89		€7.99		€150.88		Buy
Storage	Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	€92.25		€7.99		€100.24		Buy
	Western Digital - Blue 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive	€67.47		€7.99		€75.46		Buy
Case	Corsair - 200R ATX Mid Tower Case	€59.85		€7.99		€67.84		Buy
Power Supply	SeaSonic - G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply	€73.03		€7.99		€81.02		Buy
Total (7 / 7 Items):						€812.20

 

And if you plan to get new rig for unRAID then rock Xeon E5 (v3 or v4)

Changed it a bit to this https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/RYVDd6

 

fully modular PSU, IMO a better mobo for features and OC, and ryzen 7 1700, OC it to arouund 3.8-4Ghz easily and has the 16 threads that you might be able to take advantage of for very little more money, still comes in under budget too.

[domandric034]

Just now, paddy-stone said:

Changed it a bit to this https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/RYVDd6

 

fully modular PSU, IMO a better mobo for features and OC, and ryzen 7 1700, OC it to arouund 3.8-4Ghz easily and has the 16 threads that you might be able to take advantage of for very little more money, still comes in under budget too.

What is so bad about Gigabyte motherboards ?

I had GA-A75M-UD2H and it worked perfectly and when I upgraded Windows, all the drivers were stable

[paddy-stone]

32 minutes ago, domandric034 said:

What is so bad about Gigabyte motherboards ?

I had GA-A75M-UD2H and it worked perfectly and when I upgraded Windows, all the drivers were stable

No, there's nothing wrong with them at all. Just the ASrock one had better features IMO, it has an NVME + a SATA m.2 slot, decent amount of VRMs/power phase for better OCing, which is vital with the 1700 IMO, it's very easily OC'ed to between 3800-4000Mhz, just by chinging the frequency and setting static voltage on vcore to around 1.3v, that's all you need to do (edit: I meant for 3700/3800 - might need quite a bit more voltage to achieve a stable 4Ghz). If you want a "definite" stable OV then stick with 3700, it would do that no problems whatsoever, whereas a higher OV might require a bit more testing for stability.

I haven't got or been able to test the gigabyte one, whereas I have the ASrock in my personal rig, and done builds for a few others now with this board and a 1700 or 1600, and have tested them pretty thoroughly and not had many issues, the issues that did crop up are IMO more to do with the fact that there aren't more OC options available in the UEFI. I ahve managed to get the 1700 to 3700 no problems on every one I've had with these boards, and some are stable at higher frequency too. But for 24/7 use, or important stuff being done on the PC, I would stick with 3.7Ghz personally. When it's not important 3.9/4Ghz is achieveable with more voltage, but I'm not happy with that amount of volateg for 24/7 use personally, and TBH there's not a discerneable difference in most workloads between the 2 frequencies anyway in my experience.

TLDR: Nothing wrong

 

[Aluavin]

Ok, so I'm going for a second PC

2 hours ago, DocSwag said:

What's your budget?

 

I think getting another pc for her is a better option. There's some stuff I wanna change for your list tho  

 

I'm happy to hear your suggestions.

 

2 hours ago, domandric034 said:

Just get this for her. 1600 comes with nice stock cooler. 

 

Which is, If I heard reviews correctly loud. Since both PCs will be in the livingroom I try to hold noise down, thats why i chose the noctua.

 

37 minutes ago, paddy-stone said:

Changed it a bit to this https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/RYVDd6

 

fully modular PSU, IMO a better mobo for features and OC, and ryzen 7 1700, OC it to arouund 3.8-4Ghz easily and has the 16 threads that you might be able to take advantage of for very little more money, still comes in under budget too.

sounds good. but im not sure about asrock. Had a motherboard ~10 yeas  ago and it broke down on my my "real 64bit" amd, did they get any better or is asrock still the retailer for asus boards which failed QA?

[DocSwag]

49 minutes ago, Aluavin said:

Ok, so I'm going for a second PC

 

I'm happy to hear your suggestions.

 

Which is, If I heard reviews correctly loud. Since both PCs will be in the livingroom I try to hold noise down, thats why i chose the noctua.

 

sounds good. but im not sure about asrock. Had a motherboard ~10 yeas  ago and it broke down on my my "real 64bit" amd, did they get any better or is asrock still the retailer for asus boards which failed QA?

budget?

[Aluavin]

4 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

budget?

 

3 hours ago, Aluavin said:

Her budget is kinda small (~1k €)

 

[DocSwag]

1 hour ago, Aluavin said:

 

 

Which country do you live in?

[paddy-stone]

2 hours ago, Aluavin said:

Ok, so I'm going for a second PC

 

I'm happy to hear your suggestions.

 

Which is, If I heard reviews correctly loud. Since both PCs will be in the livingroom I try to hold noise down, thats why i chose the noctua.

 

sounds good. but im not sure about asrock. Had a motherboard ~10 yeas  ago and it broke down on my my "real 64bit" amd, did they get any better or is asrock still the retailer for asus boards which failed QA?

ASrock has a good reputation now for certain, I have been using them for the past few years and not had any major problems. I have built quite a few systems in the last few years and most of them have had ASrock boards as I usually choose boards I know to be relaible and good to work with and a good feature set. ASrock ticks all those boxes for me and have been very innovative in their boards features of the past few years. No they are not the budget end of Asus, even though they started that way. IIRC they are owned by the same company that owns Asus, but are their own company and does not have ties to Asus as such. I think when you had that bad board was when Asus were behind the designs etc of it if it was 10 years ago.

I have tried all the major manufacturers of mobos, and whilst in some regards there is not much to pick between them, I find the features that Asrock have on their boards and at such good prices is great... that said though I am not a fanboy, if another company were to have the same-ish price and better features, or even come close to the same prices, then I would go with that company maybe.

 

BTW, I am using the stock wraith cooler on my 1700 and even at full load it is not that bad noise wise, but IMO you would be better off getting the wraith cooler first with the rest of your build and see how it goes. If it turns out too noisy for you, then get a quieter one then... I can't see it happening though, I have my PC like 12 inches from my face and at full load it is still not that bad, and my case doesn't have any sound dampening or anything either. It's not even close to the sound of a desk fan on low settings if that's any help to you. I wouldn't be able to stand it if it was loud either and would have swapped my noctua d15 on there if so, but it's not even the same loudness as that IMO.

[DocSwag]

Also, OP, does she need monitor and peripherals or not?

[Aluavin]

8 hours ago, DocSwag said:

Which country do you live in?

Germany. You can find the german pcpartpicker here : https://de.pcpartpicker.com/

 

7 hours ago, DocSwag said:

Also, OP, does she need monitor and peripherals or not?

Not yet. I have some spare parts in good conditions. Peripherals are something we can upgrade later. 

 

8 hours ago, paddy-stone said:

 

BTW, I am using the stock wraith cooler on my 1700 and even at full load it is not that bad noise wise, but IMO you would be better off getting the wraith cooler first with the rest of your build and see how it goes. If it turns out too noisy for you, then get a quieter one then... I can't see it happening though, I have my PC like 12 inches from my face and at full load it is still not that bad, and my case doesn't have any sound dampening or anything either. It's not even close to the sound of a desk fan on low settings if that's any help to you. I wouldn't be able to stand it if it was loud either and would have swapped my noctua d15 on there if so, but it's not even the same loudness as that IMO.

You're right. Switching the cooler later should give us more budget for horsepower. 

[DocSwag]

7 hours ago, Aluavin said:

Germany. You can find the german pcpartpicker here : https://de.pcpartpicker.com/

 

Not yet. I have some spare parts in good conditions. Peripherals are something we can upgrade later. 

 

You're right. Switching the cooler later should give us more budget for horsepower. 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  (€316.54 @ Mindfactory) 
Motherboard: MSI - B350 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€93.78 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€139.89 @ Mindfactory) 
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (€128.84 @ Mindfactory) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€50.59 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case: Corsair - 330R Titanium Edition ATX Mid Tower Case  (€103.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€69.89 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €903.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-02 14:51 CEST+0200

 

If you don't need the extra hdd you could get a 500gb ssd while staying under budget.

[Aluavin]

On 2.6.2017 at 2:51 PM, DocSwag said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  (€316.54 @ Mindfactory) 
Motherboard: MSI - B350 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€93.78 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€139.89 @ Mindfactory) 
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (€128.84 @ Mindfactory) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€50.59 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case: Corsair - 330R Titanium Edition ATX Mid Tower Case  (€103.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€69.89 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €903.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-02 14:51 CEST+0200

looks neat. thank. i will go for it.