Component confirmation

[Destinatoration]

Alright so I am making a gaming PC with the following components.

• Core i7-7700k

• Corsair Vengeance 16gb 2800mhz

• Intel Optane 32 gb

• Corsair Hydro h100i v2

• Asus rog strix 1080ti oc edition

• Asus rog strix z270e Mobo

• Corsair Graphite series 780T

• Seagate Firecuda 2TB

• Samsung 850 EVO 500 gb

• EVGA SuperNOVA 850 G3

This is what I've picked out and I've done my research and it seems like everything is compatible. If anything isnt compatible or you think could be swapped just let me know. Thanks ?

[genexis_x]

Compatible. Slightly overkill though.

 

Anyway, I have a few opinions:

1. Why Intel Optane?

2. Why SSHD?

3. 850W seems overkill, 650W is enough unless you need SLI in future

[Technomancer__]

7 minutes ago, Destinatoration said:

Alright so I am making a gaming PC with the following components.

• Core i7-7700k

• Corsair Vengeance 16gb 2800mhz

• Intel Optane 32 gb

• Corsair Hydro h100i v2

• Asus rog strix 1080ti oc edition

• Asus rog strix z270e Mobo

• Corsair Graphite series 780T

• Seagate Firecuda 2TB

• Samsung 850 EVO 500 gb

• EVGA SuperNOVA 850 G3

This is what I've picked out and I've done my research and it seems like everything is compatible. If anything isnt compatible or you think could be swapped just let me know. Thanks ?

remove optane, and replace sshd with toshiba p300 3tb (cheap and fast)

i also recommend getting an r5 1600 with the asus prime b 350 (almost as good in gaming and it will improve, also cheaper)

and replace the cooler with a h115i 280mm

also get a 650 psu unless you need sli

[LienusLateTips]

1. Get Ryzen

2. Don't get Optane, not worth it.

3. Why SSHD? Get SSD and HDD

4. You don't need 850W

[SquintyG33Rs]

15 minutes ago, Ethocreeper said:

remove optane, and replace sshd with toshiba p300 3tb (cheap and fast)

i also recommend getting an r5 1600 with the asus prime b 350 (almost as good in gaming and it will improve, also cheaper)

and replace the cooler with a h115i 280mm

also get a 650 psu unless you need sli

guess it's all the same ppl commenting on these threads. WE'RE ALL EXPERTS HERE TRUST ME I'M AN ENGINEER.

 

the r5 doesn't perform anywhere near the i7-7700k in gaming that's a big fat lie. it will get better but since you can easily bring the i7 to 5GHz it ends up leaving the r5 in the mud 100% of the time. it is much cheaper though so not a bad chip but if he's getting a 1080Ti don't suggest a r5.... that's doesn't make any sense.

 

Do remove optane thought that's not something you should buy except on the lowest end machines when you won't buy an SSD (but frankly 90% of ppl in that situation would probably buy a boot drive SSD instead because it makes more sense)

 

and the Power Supply is overkill like the other 2 said.

 

Otherwise it's all good

[Destinatoration]

Alright so scratch Intel optane. I originally had that cuz I heard it was quite good to put your OS on and such but it doesn't make enough of a difference to matter

[Destinatoration]

Also the overkill PSU is basically so eventually I can use SLI.

[LienusLateTips]

2 minutes ago, Destinatoration said:

Alright so scratch Intel optane. I originally had that cuz I heard it was quite good to put your OS on and such but it doesn't make enough of a difference to matter

Optane was designed to speed up mechanical hard drives.

 

 

Please use proper grammar.

 

[Destinatoration]

Alright. Grammar isn't always ideal but I guess I can make my brain work just this once?

[Destinatoration]

So I had originally thought that the sshd was better than a generic HDD but you're saying I should just go with an HDD. Is that a "Bang for your buck" thing or.....

 

[Technomancer__]

33 minutes ago, Destinatoration said:

So I had originally thought that the sshd was better than a generic HDD but you're saying I should just go with an HDD. Is that a "Bang for your buck" thing or.....

 

yea and get an extra tb out of it

[LienusLateTips]

8 hours ago, Destinatoration said:

Alright. Grammar isn't always ideal but I guess I can make my brain work just this once?

Please quote us, like I am doing right now.

So we have a notification that you responded to us.

8 hours ago, Destinatoration said:

So I had originally thought that the sshd was better than a generic HDD but you're saying I should just go with an HDD. Is that a "Bang for your buck" thing or.....

 

It's slightly faster, not worth it.

[Guest]

8 hours ago, SquintyG33Rs said:

guess it's all the same ppl commenting on these threads. WE'RE ALL EXPERTS HERE TRUST ME I'M AN ENGINEER.

 

the r5 doesn't perform anywhere near the i7-7700k in gaming that's a big fat lie. it will get better but since you can easily bring the i7 to 5GHz it ends up leaving the r5 in the mud 100% of the time. it is much cheaper though so not a bad chip but if he's getting a 1080Ti don't suggest a r5.... that's doesn't make any sense.

I disagree. Sure at lower resolutions the gap is there, but as the op is buying a 1080 ti then he should be gaming at 1440p or 4K. At that resolution (Especially 4K) the gap is very small. Also with more optimizations Ryzen is going to get better and better. For the price the R5 1600 would be a way better buy than an i7 7700K.

 

 

[Destinatoration]

1 hour ago, JDE said:

Please quote us, like I am doing right now.

So we have a notification that you responded to us.

It's slightly faster, not worth it.

Alright. Sorry I just joined the forum so I didn't realize how that worked.

[LienusLateTips]

10 hours ago, SquintyG33Rs said:

the r5 doesn't perform anywhere near the i7-7700k in gaming that's a big fat lie. it will get better but since you can easily bring the i7 to 5GHz it ends up leaving the r5 in the mud 100% of the time. it is much cheaper though so not a bad chip but if he's getting a 1080Ti don't suggest a r5.... that's doesn't make any sense

With fast RAM, it does.

 

Has better minimums too.

[LienusLateTips]

1 minute ago, Destinatoration said:

Alright. Sorry I just joined the forum so I didn't realize how that worked.

Anyways,

 

what country do you live in? So we can find out what website to use.

[Destinatoration]

Just now, JDE said:

Anyways,

 

what country do you live in? So we can find out what website to use.

United States

 

[LienusLateTips]

Just now, Destinatoration said:

United States

 

Ok, so we can use PCPartPicker.

 

Whats your budget?

[Destinatoration]

1 minute ago, JDE said:

Ok, so we can use PCPartPicker.

 

Whats your budget?

Budget is about 2,000$

[LienusLateTips]

15 minutes ago, Destinatoration said:

Budget is about 2,000$

Well here is one:

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JXdtyf
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JXdtyf/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($306.81 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($101.98 @ NCIX US) 
Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty X370 Gaming K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($138.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($109.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($147.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Toshiba - X300 5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($146.99 @ B&H) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB STRIX GAMING Video Card  ($768.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: NZXT - S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - PRIME Platinum 850W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($164.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $1986.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-21 13:20 EDT-0400

[SquintyG33Rs]

7 hours ago, lee32uk said:

I disagree. Sure at lower resolutions the gap is there, but as the op is buying a 1080 ti then he should be gaming at 1440p or 4K. At that resolution (Especially 4K) the gap is very small. Also with more optimizations Ryzen is going to get better and better. For the price the R5 1600 would be a way better buy than an i7 7700K.

 

 

ok i understand the point of view, but i disagree. you should not pay to have less performance and games will stop being "all you need is 4 core" but we aren't about to jump further than 8. the infinity fabric issue is one thing but the r5 (or r7) can't clock up as far as the i7 therefore it will stay inferior even after it gets to it's final form. It's still cheaper and a solid option don't get me wrong, but this guy is clearly going balls to the wall with his build, why cut corners? I just don't recommend Ryzen for gaming in this case

[Guest]

9 hours ago, SquintyG33Rs said:

ok i understand the point of view, but i disagree. you should not pay to have less performance and games will stop being "all you need is 4 core" but we aren't about to jump further than 8. the infinity fabric issue is one thing but the r5 (or r7) can't clock up as far as the i7 therefore it will stay inferior even after it gets to it's final form. It's still cheaper and a solid option don't get me wrong, but this guy is clearly going balls to the wall with his build, why cut corners? I just don't recommend Ryzen for gaming in this case

You are not getting less performance at 4K as the gpu is the bottleneck, and you are still going to get excellent results at 1440p. 

 

The R5 1600 is over $100 cheaper than the i7 7700K and even more so when you factor in the cost of a cooler and Z270 board for the Intel cpu. So you are getting a 6 core cpu for much less money. Even the 8 core R7 1700 is a cheaper option. 

 

As for overclocking it doesn't really make a whole lot of difference when you get to 1440p/4K as the cpu has less to do. Most games are gpu bound at that res. Plus the 7700K is a bitch to keep cool.

 

The op hasn't said what monitor he is going to be using anyway so I think we need to know that first off.

[SquintyG33Rs]

14 hours ago, lee32uk said:

You are not getting less performance at 4K as the gpu is the bottleneck, and you are still going to get excellent results at 1440p. 

 

The R5 1600 is over $100 cheaper than the i7 7700K and even more so when you factor in the cost of a cooler and Z270 board for the Intel cpu. So you are getting a 6 core cpu for much less money. Even the 8 core R7 1700 is a cheaper option. 

 

As for overclocking it doesn't really make a whole lot of difference when you get to 1440p/4K as the cpu has less to do. Most games are gpu bound at that res. Plus the 7700K is a bitch to keep cool.

 

The op hasn't said what monitor he is going to be using anyway so I think we need to know that first off.

I'm sorry but motherboards cost the same, x370 even cost more in most cases. I know that with the GPU being the bottleneck they will appear to perform the same but we have no definite proof that Ryzen R5 in it's final form will be better than the i7-7700k (It IS much cheaper thought). I do believe that the R7 will crush the current i7 given time with software taking advantage of more cores and games coming out using the new API properly at their full potential, but it's hard to tell how long that will take  (1year? maybe 4?).

 

the R5 makes sense as a cheap i7 at the price of a cheap i5. and it makes sense in that range but not up here.

That's what i think.

[SquintyG33Rs]

On 2017-05-21 at 2:49 AM, Destinatoration said:

Alright so scratch Intel optane. I originally had that cuz I heard it was quite good to put your OS on and such but it doesn't make enough of a difference to matter

What you were really thinking of is an M.2 NVMe SSD the samsung 960 for example (pro or evo, pretty much identical) those are insanely fast SSD as well as more convenient (no cables) and small (don't need to have space for it in the case, only a motherboard slot). the key word here is NVMe that's the fast protocol you can find M.2 SSD that run with

sata (same thing HDD and SSD like the samsung 850 you picked use) which is much slower.

 

plus the price of NVMe has come down to be almost the same as SATA so that's really what you should get