URGENT HELP

[sarggames]

1 minute ago, boomboxkai897 said:

Man if I were you I would not use my scholarship money to build a PC..

please man i really want to build pc.Please not meant to be rude just help me with that

[LyondellBasell]

That's $140. That's the difference between a 1070 and a 1080. That's perfectly worth it. You do not need an 8-core processor for gaming. You will not need an 8-core processor for gaming for at least 8 more years. (end of Coffee Lake lifecycle)

 

Take your savings and buy VGA horsepower. 

[boomboxkai897]

3 minutes ago, sarggames said:

please man i really want to build pc.Please not meant to be rude just help me with that

Ok, but first off why is this urgent? Second off, I already mentioned this but the better performing out of the two is the i7. Just get that one.

[sarggames]

Just now, LyondellBasell said:

That's $140. That's the difference between a 1070 and a 1080. That's perfectly worth it. You do not need an 8-core processor for gaming. You will not need an 8-core processor for gaming for at least 8 more years. (end of Coffee Lake lifecycle)

 

Take your savings and buy VGA horsepower. 

No  dude in our  place things pretty costly taxes also so it is not worth it plus we dont earn in college so no chance of earning more here  tight schedule and i think games will start utilizing more cores  soon as ryzen is getting popular game developers will be forced to do this as many gamers will be using ryzen .It is gonna happen soon.

[sarggames]

3 minutes ago, boomboxkai897 said:

Ok, but first off why is this urgent? Second off, I already mentioned this but the better performing out of the two is the i7. Just get that one.

Because uncles flight from canada is leaving soon

[sarggames]

Just now, sarggames said:

Because uncles flight from canada is leaving soon

 

 

6 minutes ago, boomboxkai897 said:

Ok, but first off why is this urgent? Second off, I already mentioned this but the better performing out of the two is the i7. Just get that one.

 

I think games will start utilizing more cores soon as ryzen is getting popular.Now when they do I want to know 1800x or xeon 10 core will perform better

[boomboxkai897]

3 minutes ago, sarggames said:

Because uncles flight from canada is leaving soon

Sooo you want him to buy you a CPU while he's there? Also, I can almost guarantee that just because people are buying Ryzen that every single game out there will not be optimized just for Ryzen.

[sarggames]

1 minute ago, boomboxkai897 said:

Sooo you want him to buy you a CPU while he's there? Also, I can almost guarantee that just because people are buying Ryzen that every single game out there will be optimized just for Ryzen.

yeah .And they will be   optimized for intel  also so there is the problem

Edited May 13, 2017 by sarggames

[boomboxkai897]

Just now, sarggames said:

yeah .And they will be   optimized for intel  also so there is the problem

Ok what? Sorry, I typoed in my last post. Meant to say will not be optimized for Ryzen. But now you're contradicting yourself??

[sarggames]

Just now, boomboxkai897 said:

Ok what? Sorry, I typoed in my last post. Meant to say will not be optimized for Ryzen. But now you're contradicting yourself??

No they will optimize for both but now it will be more important than it was earlier to optimize for amd platform

[boomboxkai897]

Man if you think they're gonna optimize for both, why not just get the i7???

[LyondellBasell]

12 minutes ago, sarggames said:

No  dude in our  place things pretty costly taxes also so it is not worth it plus we dont earn in college so no chance of earning more here  tight schedule and i think games will start utilizing more cores  soon as ryzen is getting popular game developers will be forced to do this as many gamers will be using ryzen .It is gonna happen soon.

 

9 minutes ago, sarggames said:

 

 

I think games will start utilizing more cores soon as ryzen is getting popular.Now when they do I want to know 1800x or xeon 10 core will perform better

Please listen:

 

Gaming is a graphically-intensive workload. 

The graphics processor IS, and will continue to be, the biggest bottleneck to any gaming system.

 

You keep talking about multi-core optimisation without any regard for what that actually entails.

Optimisation will enable the CPU's workload to be spread more evenly across multiple cores, instead of the emphasis on single-core performance that we see now.

This is irrelevant if the CPU is not experiencing 100% load on a single core while other cores sit idle. Today's AAA games do not peg a quad-core processor at 100%. Nowhere close.

 

You do not need more than 4 cores for gaming. You will not ever need more than 4 cores for gaming. Gaming is entirely dependent on rendering frames.

Stop wasting the forum members' time, and save your money, please.

If you are unwilling to listen to sound, proven advice, then just buy whatever and prepare to be disappointed.

 

[sarggames]

Just now, boomboxkai897 said:

Man if you think they're gonna optimize for both, why not just get the i7???

Because of less threads and  i have a strong beleif that games will be utilizing more threads for better experience  but problem is 10 core ivy bridge 3 ghz vs ryzen 8 core 3.6ghz how to compare

[sarggames]

2 minutes ago, LyondellBasell said:

 

Please listen:

 

Gaming is a graphically-intensive workload. 

The graphics processor IS, and will continue to be, the biggest bottleneck to any gaming system.

 

You keep talking about multi-core optimisation without any regard for what that actually entails.

Optimisation will enable the CPU's workload to be spread more evenly across multiple cores, instead of the emphasis on single-core performance that we see now.

This is irrelevant if the CPU is not experiencing 100% load on a single core while other cores sit idle. Today's AAA games do not peg a quad-core processor at 100%. Nowhere close.

 

You do not need more than 4 cores for gaming. You will not ever need more than 4 cores for gaming. Gaming is entirely dependent on rendering frames.

Stop wasting the forum members' time, and save your money, please.

If you are unwilling to listen to sound, proven advice, then just buy whatever and prepare to be disappointed.

 

Wow u see some games as seen on bench marks run 70 to 90 percentage usage on i7 so that creates problem and some even run 90 percent on i5 

[sarggames]

5 minutes ago, LyondellBasell said:

 

Please listen:

 

Gaming is a graphically-intensive workload. 

The graphics processor IS, and will continue to be, the biggest bottleneck to any gaming system.

 

You keep talking about multi-core optimisation without any regard for what that actually entails.

Optimisation will enable the CPU's workload to be spread more evenly across multiple cores, instead of the emphasis on single-core performance that we see now.

This is irrelevant if the CPU is not experiencing 100% load on a single core while other cores sit idle. Today's AAA games do not peg a quad-core processor at 100%. Nowhere close.

 

You do not need more than 4 cores for gaming. You will not ever need more than 4 cores for gaming. Gaming is entirely dependent on rendering frames.

Stop wasting the forum members' time, and save your money, please.

If you are unwilling to listen to sound, proven advice, then just buy whatever and prepare to be disappointed.

 

Can you tell me how to compare between 10 core ivy bridge 3 ghz vs ryzen 8 core 3.6ghz 

 

[LyondellBasell]

Just now, sarggames said:

Wow u see some games as seen on bench marks run 70 to 90 percentage usage on i7 so that creates problem and some even run 90 percent on i5 

You've proven my point. There isn't a single game that can max out the 6700k. The bottleneck rests entirely on the VGA card.

[LyondellBasell]

Just now, sarggames said:

Can you tell me how to compare between 10 core ivy bridge 3 ghz vs ryzen 8 core 3.6ghz 

 

No. You don't need them, and you will never use them. You're talking about wasting money that you don't have in the first place.

[sarggames]

Just now, LyondellBasell said:

You've proven my point. There isn't a single game that can max out the 6700k. The bottleneck rests entirely on the VGA card.

Dude it will happen in 5 -6 years and i dont upgrade much so i need to plan 

[sarggames]

1 minute ago, LyondellBasell said:

No. You don't need them, and you will never use them. You're talking about wasting money that you don't have in the first place.

 

I am getting for same price than i 7 7700k

[LyondellBasell]

Just now, sarggames said:

Dude it will happen in 5 -6 years and i dont upgrade much so i need to plan 

No. It's not going to happen. You are not in touch with the market.

[sarggames]

2 minutes ago, LyondellBasell said:

No. It's not going to happen. You are not in touch with the market.

my friends i7 3770k bottle necks now how can you say 6700k will not bottle neck then .I play on 1080 p.No overclock ever

 

[LyondellBasell]

Either his GPU is slowing him down, or that 5-year-old workstation CPU can't hang in single-threaded tasks. Sounds like the latter.

[sarggames]

6 minutes ago, LyondellBasell said:

I guarantee you it's his GPU that's slowing him down.

60 percent gpu utilization and gpu slowing him.Now man can you please tell me just the method to compare these cpus 10 core ivy bridge 3 ghz vs ryzen 8 core 3.6ghz 

[LyondellBasell]

6 minutes ago, sarggames said:

60 percent gpu utilization and gpu slowing him.Now man can you please tell me just the method to compare these cpus 10 core ivy bridge 3 ghz vs ryzen 8 core 3.6ghz 

Once again. If his CPU is bottlenecking him, as you say, then the solution is NOT to add more cores. It's to use fewer, faster cores with much higher IPC. 

Buy a 6700k and stop trolling.

[sarggames]

5 minutes ago, LyondellBasell said:

Once again. If his CPU is bottlenecking him, as you say, then the solution is NOT to add more cores. It's to use fewer, faster cores with much higher IPC. 

Buy a 6700k and stop trolling.

dude future planning is different then just finding solution for present moment and get fucked in future n