AMD vs g4560

[TheNeonWhiteOne]

With ryzen 3 probably coming somewhat soon. How do you think amd will combat the great budget friendly g4560.

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, TheNeonWhiteOne said:

With ryzen 3 probably coming somewhat soon. How do you think amd will combat the great budget friendly g4560.

Maybe, but a little higher than the Pentium, probably.

[79wjd]

R3s will probably be priced around an i3, so I don't expect any direct competition to the G4560 until we get Raven Ridge APUs.

[Valley_]

3 minutes ago, TheNeonWhiteOne said:

With ryzen 3 probably coming somewhat soon. How do you think amd will combat the great budget friendly g4560.

Honestly, my guess is that the G4560 is going to be better than R3 overall

[genexis_x]

4 minutes ago, GlynDavies said:

Honestly, my guess is that the G4560 is going to be better than R3 overall

Nope. R3 has more cores, which means more future proof

[iRileyx]

1 minute ago, ZM Fong said:

Nope. R3 has more cores, which means more future proof

But if per core performance is absolute s**t it won't make a difference.

[genexis_x]

3 minutes ago, RKRiley said:

But if per core performance is absolute s**t it won't make a difference.

IPC of Ryzen CPUs is promising (although not as good as Intel's IPC)

[79wjd]

7 minutes ago, RKRiley said:

But if per core performance is absolute s**t it won't make a difference.

A true quad core is still better than a hyperthreaded dual core. Ryzen's single core performance is good enough. 

[TVwazhere]

11 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

R3s will probably be priced around an i3, so I don't expect any direct competition to the G4560 until we get Raven Ridge APUs.

Speculation is that the R3 1100 will be priced at $129 and have 4 cores 4 threads 3.2ghz, a hard sell against the g4560 with 2 cores and 4 threads 3.5ghz at half the price. At least the R3 is overclockable....

6 minutes ago, RKRiley said:

But if per core performance is absolute s**t it won't make a difference.

Ryzen IPC's have proven pretty consistent between R7 and R5 so I would assume R3 IPC's to be on par with its bigger brothers.

[79wjd]

2 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

Speculation is that the R3 1100 will be priced at $129 and have 4 cores 4 threads 3.2ghz, a hard sell against the g4560 with 2 cores and 4 threads 3.5ghz at half the price. At least the R3 is overclockable....

 

Ryzen IPC's have proven pretty consistent between R7 and R5 so I would assume R3 IPC's to be on par with its bigger brothers.

The R3 will definitely have a place as a true quad core with decent IPC is better than a hyper threaded dual core. 7500's sold very well (and for good reason) at $160 even with the G4560 as an option -- an R3 is nearly identical once overclocked, so at $130 it will sell (although it gets awfully close to R5 1400 territory) it just won't replace the G4560. 

 

Of course IPC will be the same, it's the exact same architecture. 

[Kevo05s]

10 minutes ago, RKRiley said:

But if per core performance is absolute s**t it won't make a difference.

There's a 5% difference, it's still better than haswell, which honestly is more than relevant today. so, no it's not s**t.

 

4 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

Ryzen IPC's have proven pretty consistent between R7 and R5 so I would assume R3 IPC's to be on par with its bigger brothers.

They have to be constant, they are the same chips with disabled cores...

[Guest Darth Revan]

1 hour ago, ZM Fong said:

Nope. R3 has more cores, which means more future proof

Just because a processor has more cores, doesn't make it automatically better than one with less cores.

And future proofing a processor by getting the one with more cores is not a good bet.

[genexis_x]

3 minutes ago, Darth Revan said:

Just because a processor has more cores, doesn't make it automatically better than one with less cores.

I know. But Ryzen CPUs don't perform like shit like those FX CPUs, so I expect decent performance from R3 CPUs

[79wjd]

5 minutes ago, Darth Revan said:

Just because a processor has more cores, doesn't make it automatically better than one with less cores.

True, however if IPC is decent then it does. Just look at the i5-7500 (or even the 7400 for that matter), both are better choices than a G4560 (in terms of performance, not necessarily price/performance).

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And future proofing a processor by getting the one with more cores is not a good bet.

Actually betting on four cores is a pretty safe bet as we're already at a point where 4c/4t is beneficial over less and is starting to become inferior to 4c/8t.

[Guest Darth Revan]

4 minutes ago, ZM Fong said:

I know. But Ryzen CPUs don't perform like shit like those FX CPUs, so I expect decent performance from R3 CPUs

That is correct. Let's see what the R3 will achieve.