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I mean, it should be doable.  Full HD 21:9 is 2560 x 1080 if I'm not mistaken, which at 10 bit and 144 Hz is the exact same amount of data as 2 one 4K 8 bit 60 Hz panel, which I believe can be done

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3 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

I mean, it should be doable.  Full HD 21:9 is 2560 x 1080 if I'm not mistaken, which at 10 bit and 144 Hz is the exact same amount of data as 2 4K 8 bit 60 Hz panels, which I believe can be done

actually 2560 x 1080 at 144Hz already exists, its OLED and HDR that cause trouble

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actually 2560 x 1080 at 144Hz already exists, its OLED and HDR that cause trouble

Making it HDR shouldn't be too big of a deal, and OLED already exists, and OLED should be perfect for displaying HDR, so I don't see an issue putting these together.  What do you foresee as the problem?

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1 minute ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

Making it HDR shouldn't be too big of a deal, and OLED already exists, and OLED should be perfect for displaying HDR, so I don't see an issue putting these together.  What do you foresee as the problem?

Oled costs a fortune and isn't widely used for monitors (LG killed it off) and HDR I'm not sure about

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Oled costs a fortune and isn't widely used for monitors (LG killed it off) and HDR I'm not sure about

Oh really?  I hadn't noticed.  Well, still doesn't mean it couldn't be done.  It's physically and technically possible, and while expensive, wouldn't be prohibitively so.

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:( a 144Hz ultrawide is already upwards of $1000

Some people buy $4000+ laptops :P 

 

Not me, but some

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Some people buy $4000+ laptops :P 

 

Not me, but some

I guess in a market where people will pay  it'll happen xD IMO I'd love to see an OLED 1440p UW with ~80-100Hz.

 

I think I'd pony up 1000 USD for that

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You need Gsync 2 monitor for HDR, the first displays (2 of so far) are 4k 16:9 only

 

https://www.asus.com/Monitors/ROG-SWIFT-PG27UQ/

 

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36 minutes ago, Damascus said:

Oled costs a fortune and isn't widely used for monitors (LG killed it off) and HDR I'm not sure about

OLED monitors aren't exactly killed off

 

http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/accessories/apd/210-aiei

 

if you can spare $3500 that is.

 

37 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

Making it HDR shouldn't be too big of a deal, and OLED already exists, and OLED should be perfect for displaying HDR, so I don't see an issue putting these together.  What do you foresee as the problem?

the main problem with OLED HDR is that OLEDs right now can't get very bright, but it's not a massive problem for most. 

 

the latest LG OLED model, the C7 hits 718 nits at peak 2% window, which is actually quite decent, but not the top (the KS8000 for comparison can hit 1100 nits at the same window size). plus most modern OLED TVs use ABL which can compromise HDR viewing somewhat. but i would imagine the majority of viewers won't care that much. besides, the inherently infinite contrast ratio will make HDR viewing a dream

http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/c7?uxtv=f0b8#comparison_140

 

Sony has their own OLED TV, the A1E, just recently. this hits 700 nits at peak 2% window, still very good. also uses ABL

http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/a1e?uxtv=f0b8#comparison_195

http://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.php?subaction=showfull&id=1492757435#3

 

47 minutes ago, MasterRaceMcqueen said:

21:9 OLED FULL HD
G-SYNC 144HZ HDR?

well there is the PG27UQ and the Acer X27. apparently they use QLED FALDs and 384 individually lit backlight zones to achieve the HDR spec

 

i bet if these two monitors are a relative success, we'll see 21:9 variants of them. 

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I'm not a expert in panels... but...
i saw a oled tv and i can tell...
IPS it's nothing compare to it...
and yes full hd 21:9 it's 2560x1080 i proposed that resolution to make a full use of those 144hz... but could be 1440p to... or even 5k '4k 21:9'
And About curve or not... if u go to a store u can se for your self curved 'in big screens' definely worth it...
My dream panel is
OLED HDR 21:9 5k 60hz /2.5k 144hz G-SYNC Curved display... 
ps: Why would someone buy a 4k oled monitor if it's more expensive than the oled tv...

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2 hours ago, MasterRaceMcqueen said:

I'm not a expert in panels... but...
i saw a oled tv and i can tell...
IPS it's nothing compare to it...
and yes full hd 21:9 it's 2560x1080 i proposed that resolution to make a full use of those 144hz... but could be 1440p to... or even 5k '4k 21:9'
And About curve or not... if u go to a store u can se for your self curved 'in big screens' definely worth it...
My dream panel is
OLED HDR 21:9 5k 60hz /2.5k 144hz G-SYNC Curved display... 
ps: Why would someone buy a 4k oled monitor if it's more expensive than the oled tv...

Well like I said, 2560 x 1080 HDR (10 bit) 144 Hz is the same amount of data (bandwidth) as running 2 normal 4K panels (3840 x 2160), which can be done, but is pretty much on the limits of current interface tech as far as I know so to step this up to something like 3840 x 1440, you're looking at doubling the bandwidth again (2 4K displays).  That would definitely need multiple cables, just like the 8K monitor Linus showed earlier

 

No point trying to correct it, this doesn't even apply anymore...

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3 hours ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

Well like I said, 2560 x 1080 HDR (10 bit) 144 Hz is the same amount of data (bandwidth) as running 2 normal 4K panels (3840 x 2160), which can be done, but is pretty much on the limits of current interface tech as far as I know so to step this up to something like 3840 x 1440, you're looking at doubling the bandwidth again (4 4K displays).  That would definitely need multiple cables, just like the 8K monitor Linus showed earlier

It's about the same as one 4K 60 Hz 8 bpc monitor, not two:

 

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/729232-guide-to-display-cables-adapters-v2/?section=calc&H=2560&V=1080&F=144&bpc=10

 

Could be done comfortably with a DisplayPort 1.2 connection, could almost (not quite) do two with DisplayPort 1.3/1.4 uncompressed.

 

Here's a list of rough limits for a few resolutions, just as a quick reference (capping at 240 Hz):

 

DisplayPort 1.3:
5120 × 2880 @ 60 Hz 8 bpc / 50 Hz 10 bpc
5120 × 2160 @ 90 Hz 8 bpc / 72 Hz 10 bpc
3840 × 2160 @ 120 Hz 8 bpc / 90 Hz 10 bpc
3840 × 1600 @ 150 Hz 8 bpc / 120 Hz 10 bpc
3440 × 1440 @ 180 Hz 8 bpc / 150 Hz 10 bpc
2560 × 1440 @ 240 Hz 8 bpc / 200 Hz 10 bpc
2560 × 1080 @ 240 Hz 8 bpc / 240 Hz 10 bpc

 

DisplayPort 1.2:
5120 × 2880 @ 30 Hz 8 bpc / 30 Hz 10 bpc
5120 × 2160 @ 60 Hz 8 bpc / 48 Hz 10 bpc
3840 × 2160 @ 75 Hz 8 bpc / 60 Hz 10 bpc
3840 × 1600 @ 100 Hz 8 bpc / 85 Hz 10 bpc
3440 × 1440 @ 120 Hz 8 bpc / 100 Hz 10 bpc
2560 × 1440 @ 160 Hz 8 bpc / 120 Hz 10 bpc
2560 × 1080 @ 200 Hz 8 bpc / 180 Hz 10 bpc
1920 × 1080 @ 240 Hz 8 bpc / 200 Hz 10 bpc

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16 minutes ago, Glenwing said:

It's about the same as one 4K 60 Hz 8 bpc monitor, not two:

 

Oh my god, you're right... 

2560 x 1080 x 144 x 10 = 3981312000

3840 x 2160 x 60 x 8 = 3981312000

I remember doing that calculation but ... how did I get a factor of 2 in there!? >_< fail...

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