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Machine Learning: Asking questions and teaching other robots?

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Figured I would make this as a single thread as opposed to two separate threads since the topics are closely related concerning machine and robotic learning...  First up, Microsoft Maluuba, which is a research group that Microsoft acquired back in January, has released a paper outlining a method of using recurrent networks to allow robots to generate questions from a body of text.

 

https://techcrunch.com/2017/05/10/microsoft-maluuba-is-teaching-machines-to-ask-questions/

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It’s no secret that today’s conversational assistants leave a lot to be desired. We spend a lot of time talking about how bad they are at hearing what we say and even worse at interpreting it. But one thing that doesn’t get nearly enough attention is the one-directional nature of conversations we have with Siri, Cortana and the rest. These systems don’t know how to ask questions — real inquiries that reflect a nuanced understanding of what information is known and what information is desired.

 

Microsoft Maluuba, the research team of PhDs that Microsoft acquired back in January, has been hard at work exploring the nexus of machine learning and question generation with the aim of delivering an intelligent personal assistant that surpasses the limited capabilities of today’s market leaders. In a recent paper, the team outlined its approach of using recurrent networks to generate questions from a body of text.

 

The team expanded upon existing question generators by combining supervised learning with reinforcement learning. Reinforcement learning makes use of the economic concept of utility to assign “points” for performing what are deemed to be optimal actions. The model is built to maximize this value and over many iterations it improves by continuously adjusting its strategy.

Essentially, this means that if you tell your personal computer assistant to perform a task, it could potentially ask you for additional details in order to better accomplish that task, such as if you were to schedule an appointment, it could ask for details on location and other people involved with that appointment.

 

On the second topic concerning machine learning, MIT's CSAIL has developed a new technique for robots to learn to perform tasks and pass that information on to different robots.  Basically, instead of having a programmer write code for all the possible ways a task could be performed or having the robot learn via demonstration of a task, the new method called C-LEARN is a hybrid of both techniques.  

 

https://www.csail.mit.edu/teaching_robots_to_teach_other_robots

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Researchers from MIT’s Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory (CSAIL) have recently developed a system that aims to bridge the two techniques: C-LEARN, which allows noncoders to teach robots a range of tasks simply by providing some information about how objects are typically manipulated and then showing the robot a single demo of the task.

 

Importantly, this enables users to teach robots skills that can be automatically transferred to other robots that have different ways of moving — a key time- and cost-saving measure for companies that want a range of robots to perform similar actions.

 

“By combining the intuitiveness of learning from demonstration with the precision of motion-planning algorithms, this approach can help robots do new types of tasks that they haven’t been able to learn before, like multistep assembly using both of their arms,” says Claudia Pérez-D’Arpino, a PhD student who wrote a paper on C-LEARN with MIT Professor Julie Shah.

 

The team tested the system on Optimus, a new two-armed robot designed for bomb disposal that they programmed to perform tasks such as opening doors, transporting objects, and extracting objects from containers. In simulations they showed that Optimus’ learned skills could be seamlessly transferred to Atlas, CSAIL’s 6-foot-tall, 400-pound humanoid robot.

Kind of interesting with this approach is after some key constraints have been programmed in and the task has been demonstrated to the robot, the robot can then suggest separate motion plans to accomplish the task that can be approved or edited as need be.  When the robot is left to it's own decisions, it was able to complete the task about 87.5% of the time, however after it's plans were reviewed and edited, it could complete the task 100% of the time.  The other interesting part of this is that the robots were able to transfer their 'knowledge' on how to complete a task to other robots to use.  As for non-'Skynet' applications of this, the article points out:

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The system is part of a larger wave of research focused on making learning-from-demonstration approaches more adaptive. If you’re a robot that has learned to take an object out of a tube from a demonstration, you might not be able to do it if there’s an obstacle in the way that requires you to move your arm differently. However, a robot trained with C-LEARN can do this, because it does not learn one specific way to perform the action.

 

“It’s good for the field that we're moving away from directly imitating motion, toward actually trying to infer the principles behind the motion,” Berenson says. “By using these learned constraints in a motion planner, we can make systems that are far more flexible than those which just try to mimic what's being demonstrated"

 

Shah says that advanced LfD methods could prove important in time-sensitive scenarios such as bomb disposal and disaster response, where robots are currently tele-operated at the level of individual joint movements.

 

“Something as simple as picking up a box could take 20-30 minutes, which is significant for an emergency situation,” says Pérez-D’Arpino.

 

C-LEARN can’t yet handle certain advanced tasks, such as avoiding collisions or planning for different step sequences for a given task. But the team is hopeful that incorporating more insights from human learning will give robots an even wider range of physical capabilities.

 

“Traditional programming of robots in real-world scenarios is difficult, tedious, and requires a lot of domain knowledge,” says Shah. “It would be much more effective if we could train them more like how we train people: by giving them some basic knowledge and a single demonstration. This is an exciting step toward teaching robots to perform complex multiarm and multistep tasks necessary for assembly manufacturing and ship or aircraft maintenance.”

 

So I guess we can look forward to our robot overlords questioning our reason for existing when they teach other robots how to take over.  :P

 

https://www.engadget.com/2017/05/10/mits-programming-system-lets-machines-learn-from-each-other/

 

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You should also read google's 2016 LSTM paper where they generated music reviews via google music. 

 

You guys can ask me questions, I'm currently a practicing deep learning scientist (I guess I should update my profile). 

 

What people don't realize is Neural Networks (one approach to AI) have been around since the 1960s. Its just now that we have the computational power (mostly GPUs) to train them efficiently. 

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You should also read google's 2016 LSTM paper where they generated music reviews via google music. 

 

You guys can ask me questions, I'm currently a practicing deep learning scientist (I guess I should update my profile). 

 

What people don't realize is Neural Networks (one approach to AI) have been around since the 1960s. Its just now that we have the computational power (mostly GPUs) to train them efficiently. 

Do we have fake call call centers? We all know the recorders but I had one that I called it a dumb robot but responded with do I really sound that bad today. I apologized and it said your fine or something. Then repeated the question. When I asked if it was a robot it would avoid the question.

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Do we have fake call call centers? We all know the recorders but I had one that I called it a dumb robot but responded with do I really sound that bad today. I apologized and it said your fine or something. Then repeated the question. When I asked if it was a robot it would avoid the question.

It wouldn't surprise me. My buddy automates instagram posts for add campaigns, so something like that is definitely possible, but someone with that kinda knowledge might cost more than actual phone call center operators. 

I have a 2019 macbook pro with 64gb of ram and my gaming pc has been in the closet since 2018

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It wouldn't surprise me. My buddy automates instagram posts for add campaigns, so something like that is definitely possible, but someone with that kinda knowledge might cost more than actual phone call center operators. 

Is there any legal conflicts with the stuff you do? I don't think most would be happy knowing how much computers do for them.

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It wouldn't surprise me. My buddy automates instagram posts for add campaigns, so something like that is definitely possible, but someone with that kinda knowledge might cost more than actual phone call center operators. 

I think the cost would depend on call volume...  It might be easier/cheaper to have a couple of really good automation programmers on staff than having to staff a full call center of people if you receive a large call volume.  Of course, there might be people who don't appreciate having to work with a machine and would prefer dealing with a person.  I think that's one area where these kind of neural nets and machine learning databases will be able to help out, with creating robots that are more attentive and knowledgeable than you can get a call center employee.

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Is there any legal conflicts with the stuff you do? I don't think most would be happy knowing how much computers do for them.

No, my clients are NASA/SpaceX/VirginGalatic. My problems are a bit different. 

 

 

I think the cost would depend on call volume...  It might be easier/cheaper to have a couple of really good automation programmers on staff than having to staff a full call center of people if you receive a large call volume.  Of course, there might be people who don't appreciate having to work with a machine and would prefer dealing with a person.  I think that's one area where these kind of neural nets and machine learning databases will be able to help out, with creating robots that are more attentive and knowledgeable than you can get a call center employee.

It depends, sure. A call center employee might cost 12 dollars an hour or so. A good data scientist (at least at my level) makes ~200k a year depending on the market and his experience level.  And that doesn't include the computational power/costs of building the actual model, and all the infrastructure needed. That means you probably also need a DevOps engineer, and a Software/DB engineer.  Thats all pretty expensive when you dont need to give part time employees benefits. 

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No, my clients are NASA/SpaceX/VirginGalatic. My problems are a bit different. 

 

It depends, sure. A call center employee might cost 12 dollars an hour or so. A good data scientist (at least at my level) makes ~200k a year depending on the market and his experience level.  And that doesn't include the computational power/costs of building the actual model, and all the infrastructure needed. That means you probably also need a DevOps engineer, and a Software/DB engineer.  Thats all pretty expensive when you dont need to give part time employees benefits. 

Your telling me you are 27 and make 200K a year? 

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Your telling me you are 27 and make 200K a year? 

Around that. It helps to have a PhD. I think in the future new Data Scientists will make less, there is heavy demand for experienced ones now. I'm at the top of a bubble. 

I have a 2019 macbook pro with 64gb of ram and my gaming pc has been in the closet since 2018

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Around that. It helps to have a PhD.

What did you go to school for and where?

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What did you go to school for and where?

Computational Geophysics at a private school in California. 

I have a 2019 macbook pro with 64gb of ram and my gaming pc has been in the closet since 2018

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Computational Geophysics at a private school in California. 

I like the first part but not really my cup of tea on the geo part. 

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I like the first part but not really my cup of tea on the geo part. 

I took 0 geology classes. My undergraduate was in physics and my masters was in applied math.

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Interesting, also note there are related techniques like adversarial networks where reinforcement is done through two networks attempting to trick and not be tricked respectively. The future really is bright!

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Computational Geophysics at a private school in California. 

I have to admit that this piqued my curiosity a bit...  As someone who works with geologic mapping and surveying myself, what kind of geophysics are you dealing with?  

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I took 0 geology classes. My undergraduate was in physics and my masters was in applied math.

I suppose it deals with high performance computers and math so it would be new and fun everyday

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I have to admit that this piqued my curiosity a bit...  As someone who works with geologic mapping and surveying myself, what kind of geophysics are you dealing with?  

I did a few things. I worked on a mantle convection solver to understand mantle flow at subduction zones, I also used Deep Learning/Complexity science to correlate events with ultra deep earthquakes. The problem with earthquakes is we don't know if they are inherently unpredictable (Complex) or if our understanding of physical processes is just too naive.  Most scientists think its the latter, I worked with a contingent of scientists  that said, well lets say we understand all the physics, how else could we predict earthquakes ? Thats how I kinda fell into Data Science. 

 

 

I suppose it deals with high performance computers and math so it would be new and fun everyday

Yes and no. A lot of it is pretty tedious... which is why i switched fields again.

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I did a few things. I worked on a mantle convection solver to understand mantle flow at subduction zones, I also used Deep Learning/Complexity science to correlate events with ultra deep earthquakes. The problem with earthquakes is we don't know if they are inherently unpredictable (Complex) or if our understanding of physical processes is just too naive.  Most scientists think its the latter, I worked with a contingent of scientists  that said, well lets say we understand all the physics, how else could we predict earthquakes ? Thats how I kinda fell into Data Science. 

 

Yes and no. A lot of it is pretty tedious... which is why i switched fields again.

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I did a few things. I worked on a mantle convection solver to understand mantle flow at subduction zones, I also used Deep Learning/Complexity science to correlate events with ultra deep earthquakes. The problem with earthquakes is we don't know if they are inherently unpredictable (Complex) or if our understanding of physical processes is just too naive.  Most scientists think its the latter, I worked with a contingent of scientists  that said, well lets say we understand all the physics, how else could we predict earthquakes ? Thats how I kinda fell into Data Science. 

 

Yes and no. A lot of it is pretty tedious... which is why i switched fields again.

Data Science, the science of giving computers a sh*tload of data to learn from and then not understanding how they successfully used it.

Data Scientist - MSc in Advanced CS, B.Eng in Computer Engineering

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To what

geophysics ---> data science

I have a 2019 macbook pro with 64gb of ram and my gaming pc has been in the closet since 2018

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geophysics ---> data science

More fun?

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More fun?

More types of problems, higher pay, easier to publish in. 

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I did a few things. I worked on a mantle convection solver to understand mantle flow at subduction zones, I also used Deep Learning/Complexity science to correlate events with ultra deep earthquakes. The problem with earthquakes is we don't know if they are inherently unpredictable (Complex) or if our understanding of physical processes is just too naive.  Most scientists think its the latter, I worked with a contingent of scientists  that said, well lets say we understand all the physics, how else could we predict earthquakes ? Thats how I kinda fell into Data Science. 

 

Yes and no. A lot of it is pretty tedious... which is why i switched fields again.

I would have to agree that our understanding of the physical processes are too limited for the systems as they are extremely complex.  When you have to begin considering the relation of multiple fault zones, the strength characteristics of the rocks adjoining a fault, the forces that are acting all along the zone and then tertiary forces that may be applying energy to the system, it just begins to get out of control...  Not to mention that these can involve large zones that are hard to monitor or even get relevant data along the whole system to apply into the model.  Still a fun thing to study though.:)

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More fun?

Data science is more generally applicable, everything from programming engine ECUs to computer vision now uses machine learning to some extent. That means more job opportunities, higher pay and more interesting things to do.

Data Scientist - MSc in Advanced CS, B.Eng in Computer Engineering

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Data science is more generally applicable, everything from programming engine ECUs to computer vision now uses machine learning to some extent. That means more job opportunities, higher pay and more interesting things to do.

And this may sound a bit vapid, but its easier to be a rockstar in data science right now.  There are a lot of people who want data scientists jobs, but very people who are qualified at all. The best people have backgrounds in math and computer science, but many people come from Business Intelligence which unless they keep studying will limit the scale and accuracy of their work. 

I have a 2019 macbook pro with 64gb of ram and my gaming pc has been in the closet since 2018

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