First Build. Looking For Input

[M_J_S]

Need advice on compatibility on this build, parts highlighted in red (case and monitor) are what I already have.

Is there anything that is a overkill or could bottleneck?

 

Any and all advice would be helpful.

 

Thanks in advance.  

[Sokol1an]

i think the monitor is too big.

[myselfolli]

You won't be pulling 4k 60 fps with a 1070, but you can downscale the games to 1080p and it'll work fine. Apart from that the build looks really solid I'd say

[M_J_S]

1 minute ago, Nitrous said:

i think the monitor is too big.

Thanks Nitrous

As in physically to big?

[Guest]

Just now, M_J_S said:

Thanks Nitrous

As in physically to big?

Yeah, but it doesn't really matter. Whatever you can see comfortably. There is one problem, though. It's a 4K monitor. If you would like to play games 60 FPS at 4K, you will have to put games on Medium - Low.

[M_J_S]

Just now, myselfolli said:

You won't be pulling 4k 60 fps with a 1070, but you can downscale the games to 1080p and it'll work fine. Apart from that the build looks really solid I'd say

Thanks myselfolli

 

Say if i was to go to a 1080 would there be anything else that would need to be looked at changing?  (just curious)

[Princess Luna]

2 minutes ago, M_J_S said:

Thanks Nitrous

As in physically to big?

It's not, however you should go with a 1440p monitor of 27 inch rather since the 1070 won't manage 4k, I would personally disregard the advice above, 1080p on a 4k monitor looks blurry and bad... in fact any non native resolution will always look worse than it would be if it was native due to pixel sync.

[Zyndo]

If your desire is 4k gaming, you need to increase your budget or readjust where you're spending your money.... spend less on your CPU, motherboard, and cooler, case, and get a MUCH stronger GPU (1080ti if you can afford it). also, i would recommend a higher wattage PSU.


You could also just get a 1080p or 1440p monitor and be just fine with the 1070 as well. or maybe go for an ultrawide at those resolutions if its more your thing. Also I'm not familiar with that specific monitor choice, but there is probably much cheaper options out there for 4k monitors

[Princess Luna]

Also for the love of god don't buy an i5 7600k, either make a 7700k build or go with the ryzen 1600x

[Zyndo]

1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

1080p on a 4k monitor looks blurry and bad

why would it look blurry and bad? it should look exactly like a 1080p screen would look.

[Droidbot]

Get rid of the liquid cooler and get a 7700K instead and push high framerate 1440p/1080p

 

 

Also that SSD isn't available here

And that case is fucking O V E R P R I C E D 

[Droidbot]

1 minute ago, Zyndo said:

why would it look blurry and bad? it should look exactly like a 1080p screen would look.

Pixel density - the monitor has to use multiple pixels where there is meant to be one and it creates a blur effect

[Princess Luna]

Just now, Zyndo said:

why would it look blurry and bad? it should look exactly like a 1080p screen would look.

Except it doesn't because of image streching, 1080p is a 24inch resolution, even so the only way the image's crystal clean is using it on native resolution.

 

Also it would be rather a waste get 4k to play on 1080p, preference for an ultrawide like you stated that still looks really great and has higher refresh rates.

[Zyndo]

Just now, Princess Cadence said:

1080p is a 24inch resolution

ummm.... what?

You can get 1080p screens in a great many more sizes than that. what am i misunderstanding here?

 

Just now, Princess Cadence said:

Except it doesn't because of image streching

the image shouldn't stretch or contort in any way. 3840x2160 is exactly 4x the pixel count as 1080p.... assuming equal panel sizes (lets say 27"), there would be 4x as many pixels in the same area on a 4k panel as compared to a 1080p panel. the result is that each pixel is effectively 1/4 the size of a 1080p monitor. so when you tell your game to render a 1080p pixel, your 4k monitor should just draw it 4x to fill its screen properly. this works well since it has 4x the pixels to do this with.... there is no awkward conversions to be had... from my understanding it will look EXACTLY the same to the naked eye as a 1080p panel would. I can't understand a reason it wouldn't (although I've never tried it)..

I HAVE tried 1920x1080 down to 1368x760 (monitor to TV)... and I can definitely understand what you mean by blurring and scaling issues (its especially noticeable with on screen text)... but due to 3840x2160 being a perfect 4x the size of 1080p.... you should not experience this issue whatsoever. it should look identical to a 1080p panel.... or am I missing something here?
 

2 minutes ago, Droidbot said:

Pixel density - the monitor has to use multiple pixels where there is meant to be one and it creates a blur effect

That is not what pixel density is. and it should not create a blur effect. each pixel would merely be drawn 4x at 1/4 the size. there would be no reason for blurring between this resolutions..... again.... unless I'm missing something?

[Princess Luna]

8 minutes ago, Zyndo said:

unless I'm missing something?

The only thing you're not getting is that interpolation will happen regardless the aspect ratio being right since you'll never have each pixel with an individual "task" you'll assign multiple pixels for the same "task" what reduces sharpness causing the blurry effect, it's that simple, while the resolution really is identical the way the screen handles it isn't.

[myselfolli]

But he already has both the case (overpriced or not, it's cheaper than buying a new one) and the monitor. So those two things are out of question. 1080p gaming on a 4k monitor may not be optimal, but it's better than gaming at 1440p on a 4k monitor, because conversions and all that fuzz, you get the idea.

 

As for grabbing a 7700k, it won't really be worth the extra money for a pure gaming build... I'd stick with the build as is, you could consider upgrading the PSU to a 600W model, but only to gain some more headroom, it won't be neccessary

[Zyndo]

1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

each pixel with an individual "task" you'll assign multiple pixels for the same "task" what reduced sharpness causing the blurry effect

So you're telling me that it will appear more blurry because each pixel will be duplicated more than once, resulting in a blocky or blurry image? and you keep using the word "interpolation" like its supposed to explain something to me. using the same word over and over when someone doesn't understand isn't suddenly going to enlighten them.

[Princess Luna]

1 minute ago, Zyndo said:

So you're telling me that it will appear more blurry because each pixel will be duplicated more than once, resulting in a blocky or blurry image?

Pretty much that, and I only said interpolation once, which if you google it you can learn this on your own

The native resolution will always be the sharpest because like I said first the pixels are perfectly synchronized, break the synchronize and there you have it, blocky blurry images:

 

https://www.howtogeek.com/119117/htg-explains-why-using-your-monitors-native-resolution-is-important/

[Zyndo]

4 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

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Don't worry I've already gone to google as you don't seem interested in listening to what I'm saying.... that, or you do not know enough about this topic to have a proper discussion about it.

[Flavio hc 16]

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