Linux turns me off

[WindirBear]

I like the the possibilities and flavors that Linux has to offer, but I hate installing software on it.

 

Every tutorial must have some nerd showing off their console "skillz" on how to sudo-appget software.

 

I'm not and experienced user, and I know theres an app store or something, but why not show people that way?

 

Ain't got time to memorize all these command lines :T

[tlink]

thats because the graphical interface store for ubuntu called ubuntu software center is pretty intuitive to use, and because command line is more universally applicable if explained right. there also are wiki pages explaining it. for example: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter

[Sauron]

Because doing it with a terminal command is effectively the best way to do it by far. The store (and by the way, only some distros have a "store"/graphical package manager installed by default) does not have everything you might want most of the time and you can't easily use it to install packages you mad/downloaded yourself (if you need that for some reason). It's not about showing off, it's just how it works - anyone who uses linux should get to terms with the command line eventually, you're missing a lot of you don't.

 

Furthermore installing from the gui is so easy it hardly requires a tutorial...

[manikyath]

then dont use it. in the end windows / linux / OSX is preference

 

and the reason why most people use apt-get/yum/pacman/yaourt instead of the vareous app stroes, is that they simply work better if you know what the package is called (exception to yaourt, which has an actually surprisingly competent way of searching)

[Sauron]

11 minutes ago, manikyath said:

then dont use it. in the end windows / linux / OSX is preference

 

and the reason why most people use apt-get/yum/pacman/yaourt instead of the vareous app stroes, is that they simply work better if you know what the package is called (exception to yaourt, which has an actually surprisingly competent way of searching)

pacman has a search option too ( -Ss)

[manikyath]

1 minute ago, Sauron said:

pacman has a search option too ( -Ss)

yaourt is freaking godlike tho

[WindirBear]

31 minutes ago, Sauron said:

Because doing it with a terminal command is effectively the best way to do it by far. The store (and by the way, only some distros have a "store"/graphical package manager installed by default) does not have everything you might want most of the time and you can't easily use it to install packages you mad/downloaded yourself (if you need that for some reason). It's not about showing off, it's just how it works - anyone who uses linux should get to terms with the command line eventually, you're missing a lot of you don't.

An OS that uses command lines as an effective way to to install software means it's not user friendly. 

 

I hate having to find the command lines for software that isn't in the interfaced store.

 

No one has to learn an OS to use it. That's why MS DOS is dead

[Sauron]

3 minutes ago, WindirBear said:

An OS that uses command lines as an effective way to to install software means it's not user friendly. 

 

I hate having to find the command lines for software that isn't in the interfaced store.

 

No one has to learn an OS to use it. That's why MS DOS is dead

It depends on how you define user friendly. Searching on dodgy websites for installers that may not even be up to date is a lot worse in my opinion, you're just too used to it to notice.

 

If you don't like it, don't use it. DOS had WAYYYYYY more problems than being command line driven and linux rules the server space.

[fjdhdhcyfhf]

1 hour ago, WindirBear said:

An OS that uses command lines as an effective way to to install software means it's not user friendly. 

 

I hate having to find the command lines for software that isn't in the interfaced store.

 

No one has to learn an OS to use it. That's why MS DOS is dead

i find command line easier. Its as simple as googling the software, then copy/pasting the command. Whats wrong with kids today that they are scared of the command line. its not rocket science.

[WindirBear]

2 hours ago, SCHISCHKA said:

i find command line easier. Its as simple as googling the software, then copy/pasting the command. Whats wrong with kids today that they are scared of the command line. its not rocket science.

Easier than clicking a couple of buttons?

 

Kidstoday are not all computer enthusiast.

 

It's not like I haven't dabbled with the console to install software, but I would rather visually install software by remembering the name of it, and clicking an executable, than remembering a forgettable line I would use once.

 

It is not my cup of tea.

[fjdhdhcyfhf]

8 minutes ago, WindirBear said:

Easier than clicking a couple of buttons?

 

Kidstoday are not all computer enthusiast.

 

It's not like I haven't dabbled with the console to install software, but I would rather visually install software by remembering the name of it, and clicking an executable, than remembering a forgettable line I would use once.

 

It is not my cup of tea.

then use the ubuntu software center program. theres also synaptic on ubuntu so you have at least two GUI options available on a standard installation. With synaptic you can add packages you downloaded manually and add new repositories vs the ubuntu software center which is more like a shop such as google play. I dont use them because apt-cache search and apt install are faster and not difficult to remember. Canonical has recently brought out a newer package system called snaps, so more options to distribute software on the platform.

4 hours ago, WindirBear said:

I'm not and experienced user, and I know theres an app store or something, but why not show people that way?

because a good GUI should not require a tutorial and like i said the CLI is faster and all you need to do is copy/paste the command vs publishing a video or screenshots. Hey if you think there is a market for GUI based tutorials why dont you start a blog or youtube channel?

[noahdvs]

Here are some tips for installing packages on Ubuntu through the terminal:

 

`sudo` means something like "super user do". Basically, "Give me temporary admin powers."

 

Use `apt` instead of `apt-get`. They can both do the same things, but `apt` is more user friendly and it has a progress bar when you install things.

 

You can usually find all the things to can do with a command by using the `--help` flag after it. For example `apt --help` gives you all the things you can do with `apt`.

 

If you don't know the exact name of a package you want to install or if you just want to browse the repository from the terminal, use `apt search`. This does not require `sudo`. After `search`, you can put keywords separated by spaces. For example, here are the first 10 results of `apt search web browser`:

 ~> apt search web browser  
Sorting... Done
Full Text Search... Done
akregator/xenial 4:16.12.3+p16.04+git20170407.1917-0 amd64
  RSS/Atom feed aggregator

alice/xenial,xenial 0.19-1 all
  Web browser (WebKit or Gecko) based IRC client

amule-gnome-support/xenial,xenial 2.4.0~git20151120.0023527bc2-1ubuntu1 all
  ed2k links handling support for GNOME web browsers

arora/xenial 0.11.0+qt5+git2014-04-06-1 amd64
  simple cross platform web browser

browser-plugin-vlc/xenial 2.0.6-4 amd64
  multimedia plugin for web browsers based on VLC

chimera2/xenial 2.0a19-8 amd64
  Web browser for X

chrome-gnome-shell/xenial-updates,xenial-updates 8-2ubuntu4~ubuntu16.04.1 all
  GNOME Shell extensions integration for web browsers

chromium-browser/xenial-updates,xenial-security 57.0.2987.98-0ubuntu0.16.04.1276 amd64
  Chromium web browser, open-source version of Chrome

chromium-chromedriver/xenial-updates,xenial-security 57.0.2987.98-0ubuntu0.16.04.1276 amd64
  WebDriver driver for the Chromium Browser

dillo/xenial 3.0.5-2 amd64
  Small and fast web browser

 

If you wanted to install chromium (fully open source chrome), you would use `sudo apt install chromium-browser`.

If you wanted to remove it, you would use `sudo apt remove chromium-browser`.

If you wanted to update the list of packages, you would use `sudo apt update`

If you wanted to upgrade, you would use `sudo apt upgrade`

 

That's it, just 5 commands to manage all your packages. Occasionally, you might need to use another command to add a PPA repository, but you don't need to remember it. I certainly don't.

[ErickS89]

Ah Arch Linux how fun, but I much prefer Linux from scratch + emerge (Gentoo's build system), or just using Gentoo or Funtoo (it has fun in the name!) 

I've found Gentoo is much more stable even using experimental "just released like today software" than arch, but arch is the ultimate test platform if you want to try stuff out before a long arduous compile time.