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  1. 1. What should I do?

    • Get a 1080Ti now. Upgrade monitor in 6-12months when 38" is cheaper and better.
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    • Get the 34" 21:9 now. Upgrade GPU when Volta XX80 comes out.
      1
    • Wait for Volta and get XX80, then start to look for monitors once tech is better/cheaper and OLED is maybe an option.
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    • Upgrade neither and be responsible with your money you idiot.
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So I have been saving up for some PC upgrades and am having a hard time deciding on what to do first and if I should be waiting a little longer or not.

 

There are two items I would like to upgrade next, my GPU and my monitor (see signature for my current specs).

 

Right now I am trying to decide which to prioritize.

 

GPU: I want to either get a 1080Ti (which would be the final upgrade to my build for at least 5 years or so) or wait another 6-8 (8-12 more likely) months for Vega VOLTA and upgrade then. I currently use a GTX980 which is starting show its age and even when running at 1080p I can't max out the newest games without terrible framerates, much less use my 4k monitor. However, if Vega VOLTA will be a huge improvement over Pascal I can hold off a while longer since even the 1080Ti can just barely max out 4k now and will quickly get surpassed by games in the coming years. Obviously, nobody has any real info on Vega VOLTA so it's a gamble and I'm having a hard time deciding but I'm wondering what other people think.

 

Monitor: I want to abandon my 4k TV/monitor (use it as an actual living room TV instead) and get a real monitor. I'm currently looking at either a 38", 3840x1600, 21:9, 10bit, 75hz (still too expensive so I'd have to wait for a price drop anyway), or a 34", 3440x1440, 21:9, 10bit, 75+hz (currently looking at one for $500). I would rather have a larger screen (I like a large screen and don't want a major downgrade from my current 43" setup, even the 34" 21:9 is on the border of how large I would like). Either way I would get better framerates and higher refresh rates than my current 4k solution (less pixels to push and higher native refresh), way better image quality and lower GTG/latency, and the fiance would be happy with a living room TV upgrade. I also worry a bit about backlight bleed on these huge, curved, IPS displays and wonder if waiting for price and tech improvements on OLEDs would be worth it.

 

What are your opinions?

 

*Edit: by "get a 1080Ti now" I mean in a month or so when the AIB cards are out. I'm thinking either an EVGA ICX (either SC2 or FTW3) or ASUS Strix.

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Having issues with a Corsair AIO? Possible fix here:

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Are you getting weird fan behavior, speed fluctuations, and/or other issues with Link?

Are you running AIDA64, HWinfo, CAM, or HWmonitor? (ASUS suite & other monitoring software often have the same issue.)

Corsair Link has problems with some monitoring software so you may have to change some settings to get them to work smoothly.

-For AIDA64: First make sure you have the newest update installed, then, go to Preferences>Stability and make sure the "Corsair Link sensor support" box is checked and make sure the "Asetek LC sensor support" box is UNchecked.

-For HWinfo: manually disable all monitoring of the AIO sensors/components.

-For others: Disable any monitoring of Corsair AIO sensors.

That should fix the fan issue for some Corsair AIOs (H80i GT/v2, H110i GTX/H115i, H100i GTX and others made by Asetek). The problem is bad coding in Link that fights for AIO control with other programs. You can test if this worked by setting the fan speed in Link to 100%, if it doesn't fluctuate you are set and can change the curve to whatever. If that doesn't work or you're still having other issues then you probably still have a monitoring software interfering with the AIO/Link communications, find what it is and disable it.

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I don't have any high hopes for Vega outright smashing the GTX 1080 Ti or driving its price down all that much. The GTX 1080 Ti is almost twice as powerful as the GTX 980, so you'll still be getting a massive upgrade either way. And even then, 6-8 months is edging the point where everyone is going to say "WAIT FOR VOLTA".

 

As for the monitor... I'd say wait a bit on that one and see if anyone is actually pushing an HDR monitor out soon.

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36 minutes ago, M.Yurizaki said:

I don't have any high hopes for Vega outright smashing the GTX 1080 Ti or driving its price down all that much. The GTX 1080 Ti is almost twice as powerful as the GTX 980, so you'll still be getting a massive upgrade either way. And even then, 6-8 months is edging the point where everyone is going to say "WAIT FOR VOLTA".

 

As for the monitor... I'd say wait a bit on that one and see if anyone is actually pushing an HDR monitor out soon.

Haha, wow I'm dumb... I actually meant Volta not Vega... malapropism... they sound too similar.

 

I actually want to stick with Nvidia anyway for the occasional CUDA use.

 

I edited the post

 

By the way, both the 38" and 34" 21:9 monitors I am looking at are 10bit color (which is HDR) so that is already a common thing in new monitors (many gaming monitors are already HDR and professional monitors have been for quite a while). The big thing I would be waiting for with monitors would be OLED for no backlight issues (because there is no backlight) and way better dynamic range and/or better prices on the larger 38" 21:9s.

Primary PC-

CPU: Intel i7-6800k @ 4.2-4.4Ghz   CPU COOLER: Bequiet Dark Rock Pro 4   MOBO: MSI X99A SLI Plus   RAM: 32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX quad-channel DDR4-2800  GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 SC2 iCX   PSU: Corsair RM1000i   CASE: Corsair 750D Obsidian   SSDs: 500GB Samsung 960 Evo + 256GB Samsung 850 Pro   HDDs: Toshiba 3TB + Seagate 1TB   Monitors: Acer Predator XB271HUC 27" 2560x1440 (165Hz G-Sync)  +  LG 29UM57 29" 2560x1080   OS: Windows 10 Pro

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CPU: AMD FX-8320 @ 4.4Ghz  MOBO: Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3   RAM: 16GB dual-channel DDR3-1600  GPU: Gigabyte GTX 760 OC   PSU: Rosewill 750W   CASE: Antec Gaming One   SSD: 120GB PNY CS1311   HDDs: WD Red 3TB + WD 320GB   Monitor: Samsung SyncMaster 2693HM 26" 1920x1200 -or- Steam Link to Vizio M43C1 43" 4K TV  OS: Windows 10 Pro

 

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CPU: 2x Xeon E5645 (12-core)  Model: Dell PowerEdge T610  RAM: 16GB DDR3-1333  PSUs: 2x 570W  SSDs: 8GB Kingston Boot FD + 32GB Sandisk Cache SSD   HDDs: WD Red 4TB + Seagate 2TB + Seagate 320GB   OS: FreeNAS 11+

 

Laptop-

CPU: Intel i7-3520M   Model: Dell Latitude E6530   RAM: 8GB dual-channel DDR3-1600  GPU: Nvidia NVS 5200M   SSD: 240GB TeamGroup L5   HDD: WD Black 320GB   Monitor: Samsung SyncMaster 2693HM 26" 1920x1200   OS: Windows 10 Pro

Having issues with a Corsair AIO? Possible fix here:

Spoiler

Are you getting weird fan behavior, speed fluctuations, and/or other issues with Link?

Are you running AIDA64, HWinfo, CAM, or HWmonitor? (ASUS suite & other monitoring software often have the same issue.)

Corsair Link has problems with some monitoring software so you may have to change some settings to get them to work smoothly.

-For AIDA64: First make sure you have the newest update installed, then, go to Preferences>Stability and make sure the "Corsair Link sensor support" box is checked and make sure the "Asetek LC sensor support" box is UNchecked.

-For HWinfo: manually disable all monitoring of the AIO sensors/components.

-For others: Disable any monitoring of Corsair AIO sensors.

That should fix the fan issue for some Corsair AIOs (H80i GT/v2, H110i GTX/H115i, H100i GTX and others made by Asetek). The problem is bad coding in Link that fights for AIO control with other programs. You can test if this worked by setting the fan speed in Link to 100%, if it doesn't fluctuate you are set and can change the curve to whatever. If that doesn't work or you're still having other issues then you probably still have a monitoring software interfering with the AIO/Link communications, find what it is and disable it.

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28 minutes ago, M.Yurizaki said:

You know, I should've looked up if Vega really has a 6-8 month window. :P

Vega is supposed to be coming out by the end of Q2 2017. No date besides that time frame has been set. Even the RX500 (i can't recall the name of the current gen is named) refresh is only roomered.

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1 hour ago, BluJay614 said:

Vega is supposed to be coming out by the end of Q2 2017. No date besides that time frame has been set. Even the RX500 (i can't recall the name of the current gen is named) refresh is only roomered.

Yea, I misspoke, I meant to say Volta (similar names) not Vega. I don't expect Vega to beat a 1080Ti. I was more referring to Volta which according to the Nvidia roadmap should double performance/watt of Pascal and release Q4 2017 or Q1 2018. Assuming they keep similar TDPs and die sizes as Pascal that could mean double the Pascal performance and (hopefully) HBM2.

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CPU: Intel i7-6800k @ 4.2-4.4Ghz   CPU COOLER: Bequiet Dark Rock Pro 4   MOBO: MSI X99A SLI Plus   RAM: 32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX quad-channel DDR4-2800  GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 SC2 iCX   PSU: Corsair RM1000i   CASE: Corsair 750D Obsidian   SSDs: 500GB Samsung 960 Evo + 256GB Samsung 850 Pro   HDDs: Toshiba 3TB + Seagate 1TB   Monitors: Acer Predator XB271HUC 27" 2560x1440 (165Hz G-Sync)  +  LG 29UM57 29" 2560x1080   OS: Windows 10 Pro

Album

Other Systems:

Spoiler

Home HTPC/NAS-

CPU: AMD FX-8320 @ 4.4Ghz  MOBO: Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3   RAM: 16GB dual-channel DDR3-1600  GPU: Gigabyte GTX 760 OC   PSU: Rosewill 750W   CASE: Antec Gaming One   SSD: 120GB PNY CS1311   HDDs: WD Red 3TB + WD 320GB   Monitor: Samsung SyncMaster 2693HM 26" 1920x1200 -or- Steam Link to Vizio M43C1 43" 4K TV  OS: Windows 10 Pro

 

Offsite NAS/VM Server-

CPU: 2x Xeon E5645 (12-core)  Model: Dell PowerEdge T610  RAM: 16GB DDR3-1333  PSUs: 2x 570W  SSDs: 8GB Kingston Boot FD + 32GB Sandisk Cache SSD   HDDs: WD Red 4TB + Seagate 2TB + Seagate 320GB   OS: FreeNAS 11+

 

Laptop-

CPU: Intel i7-3520M   Model: Dell Latitude E6530   RAM: 8GB dual-channel DDR3-1600  GPU: Nvidia NVS 5200M   SSD: 240GB TeamGroup L5   HDD: WD Black 320GB   Monitor: Samsung SyncMaster 2693HM 26" 1920x1200   OS: Windows 10 Pro

Having issues with a Corsair AIO? Possible fix here:

Spoiler

Are you getting weird fan behavior, speed fluctuations, and/or other issues with Link?

Are you running AIDA64, HWinfo, CAM, or HWmonitor? (ASUS suite & other monitoring software often have the same issue.)

Corsair Link has problems with some monitoring software so you may have to change some settings to get them to work smoothly.

-For AIDA64: First make sure you have the newest update installed, then, go to Preferences>Stability and make sure the "Corsair Link sensor support" box is checked and make sure the "Asetek LC sensor support" box is UNchecked.

-For HWinfo: manually disable all monitoring of the AIO sensors/components.

-For others: Disable any monitoring of Corsair AIO sensors.

That should fix the fan issue for some Corsair AIOs (H80i GT/v2, H110i GTX/H115i, H100i GTX and others made by Asetek). The problem is bad coding in Link that fights for AIO control with other programs. You can test if this worked by setting the fan speed in Link to 100%, if it doesn't fluctuate you are set and can change the curve to whatever. If that doesn't work or you're still having other issues then you probably still have a monitoring software interfering with the AIO/Link communications, find what it is and disable it.

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