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Hey, I'm putting together my first PC and am unsure what CPU to put in. This is my current draft of the build (only part bought is the GPU):

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€339.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  (€39.08 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€152.89 @ Mindfactory) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (€125.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€97.57 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€52.79 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: GALAX GeForce GTX 1080 8GB EX OC Video Card 
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  (€57.48 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply 
Case Fan: Cooler Master SickleFlow (Blue) 69.0 CFM  120mm Fan  (€6.51 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor  (€267.76 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €1140.06

 

For reference, the difference in price between the 6700k and 7700k is about €20. 

 

Any advice on the motherboard would be nice too (Z170 or Z270). I'm currently looking at the MSI Z270 SLI Plus, but don't know if it's worth it over, say, a Z170-P by Asus.

 

Thanks!

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Just now, Fleehisalt said:

For reference, the difference in price between the 6700k and 7700k is about €20. 

It is worth it. Get the 7700K

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K | Motherboard: AsRock X99 Extreme4 | Graphics Card: Gigabyte GTX 1080 G1 Gaming | RAM: 16GB G.Skill Ripjaws4 2133MHz | Storage: 1 x Samsung 860 EVO 1TB | 1 x WD Green 2TB | 1 x WD Blue 500GB | PSU: Corsair RM750x | Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro (White) | Cooling: Arctic Freezer i32

 

Mice: Logitech G Pro X Superlight (main), Logitech G Pro Wireless, Razer Viper Ultimate, Zowie S1 Divina Blue, Zowie FK1-B Divina Blue, Logitech G Pro (3366 sensor), Glorious Model O, Razer Viper Mini, Logitech G305, Logitech G502, Logitech G402

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Just now, PCGuy_5960 said:

It is worth it. Get the 7700K

Straight and to the point. Thanks! What about the mobo?

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Just now, Fleehisalt said:

Straight and to the point. Thanks! What about the mobo?

get a z270 or you will have bios problems

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Just now, Fleehisalt said:

Straight and to the point. Thanks! What about the mobo?

You're welcome :D How much money do you want to spend on your mobo?

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K | Motherboard: AsRock X99 Extreme4 | Graphics Card: Gigabyte GTX 1080 G1 Gaming | RAM: 16GB G.Skill Ripjaws4 2133MHz | Storage: 1 x Samsung 860 EVO 1TB | 1 x WD Green 2TB | 1 x WD Blue 500GB | PSU: Corsair RM750x | Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro (White) | Cooling: Arctic Freezer i32

 

Mice: Logitech G Pro X Superlight (main), Logitech G Pro Wireless, Razer Viper Ultimate, Zowie S1 Divina Blue, Zowie FK1-B Divina Blue, Logitech G Pro (3366 sensor), Glorious Model O, Razer Viper Mini, Logitech G305, Logitech G502, Logitech G402

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Just now, PCGuy_5960 said:

It is worth it. Get the 7700K

Agreed, maybe not in IPC but I would argue if someone sold a 6700K that can overclock like a 7700K, most would pay the extra 20, at least I would.

System

  • CPU
    I7-4790K @ 4,7GHz
  • Motherboard
    Asus MAXIMUS Formula VI
  • RAM
    Kingston HyperX FURY 16GB Kit (2x8GB) 1866MHz
  • GPU
    MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X
  • Case
    Cooler Master Cosmos SE
  • Storage
    Samsung 840 EVO 500GB+WD Green 3TB
  • PSU
    EVGA SuperNOVA 850G2 80PLUS Gold Certified
  • Display(s)
    ASUS PB277Q 27" WQHD 2560x1440 75Hz 1ms
  • Cooling
    Corsair H105 with AP121s and Phanteks fans
  • Keyboard
    Logitech G610 Orion
  • Mouse
    E-3lue E-Blue Mazer II 2500 DPI Blue LED 2.4GHz Wireless Optical Gaming Mouse
  • Sound
    Audio-Technica ATH-M20x
  • Operating System
    Windows 10
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4 minutes ago, Fleehisalt said:

Straight and to the point. Thanks! What about the mobo?

Rather randomly I found this, not personally familiar with the TUF line-up but I'm sure someone can give a more informed opinion, it just seems a really good deal compared to that z170-a. https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/z4wqqs/asus-z270-mk2-atx-lga1151-motherboard-z270-mk2

System

  • CPU
    I7-4790K @ 4,7GHz
  • Motherboard
    Asus MAXIMUS Formula VI
  • RAM
    Kingston HyperX FURY 16GB Kit (2x8GB) 1866MHz
  • GPU
    MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X
  • Case
    Cooler Master Cosmos SE
  • Storage
    Samsung 840 EVO 500GB+WD Green 3TB
  • PSU
    EVGA SuperNOVA 850G2 80PLUS Gold Certified
  • Display(s)
    ASUS PB277Q 27" WQHD 2560x1440 75Hz 1ms
  • Cooling
    Corsair H105 with AP121s and Phanteks fans
  • Keyboard
    Logitech G610 Orion
  • Mouse
    E-3lue E-Blue Mazer II 2500 DPI Blue LED 2.4GHz Wireless Optical Gaming Mouse
  • Sound
    Audio-Technica ATH-M20x
  • Operating System
    Windows 10
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I'd recommend you look on ebay for i7 6700k's. Some people upgrade to a i7 7700k and decide to sell their old cpu. I got a 6700k for €220 with shipping.

i7 6700k - Cryorig H7 - ASRock Z270 Killer SLI - Corsair 16GB DDR4 3000MHz - EVGA GTX 1070 SC - WD Green 240GB SSD & 500GB HDD - Xilence Performence A+ 730W - Phanteks P400S TG White

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12 minutes ago, erkubee said:

I'd recommend you look on ebay for i7 6700k's. Some people upgrade to a i7 7700k and decide to sell their old cpu. I got a 6700k for €220 with shipping.

Not really looking to buy second hand on something as major as PC parts, I think.

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Not really looking to buy second hand on something as major as PC parts, I think.

Oh well okay.

i7 6700k - Cryorig H7 - ASRock Z270 Killer SLI - Corsair 16GB DDR4 3000MHz - EVGA GTX 1070 SC - WD Green 240GB SSD & 500GB HDD - Xilence Performence A+ 730W - Phanteks P400S TG White

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3 minutes ago, erkubee said:

Oh well okay.

Nothing against you or your decision man. Just had a bad experience or two with ebay. For something as big and pricey as my first build (especially because I've never had to put together or set up a PC of my own) I would just prefer to get parts new and enjoy the warranty / not go through a mess if there's something wrong. :)

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Nothing against you or your decision man. Just had a bad experience or two with ebay. For something as big and pricey as my first build (especially because I've never had to put together or set up a PC of my own) I would just prefer to get parts new and enjoy the warranty / not go through a mess if there's something wrong. :)

Yeah i understand. I was kind of skeptical as well when i ordered it but the cpu worked very well.

i7 6700k - Cryorig H7 - ASRock Z270 Killer SLI - Corsair 16GB DDR4 3000MHz - EVGA GTX 1070 SC - WD Green 240GB SSD & 500GB HDD - Xilence Performence A+ 730W - Phanteks P400S TG White

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32 minutes ago, Fleehisalt said:

For reference, the difference in price between the 6700k and 7700k is about €20. 

 

For that difference in price, 7700k all the way!  

 

32 minutes ago, Fleehisalt said:

 

Any advice on the motherboard would be nice too (Z170 or Z270). I'm currently looking at the MSI Z270 SLI Plus, but don't know if it's worth it over, say, a Z170-P by Asus.

 

This boils down to if you need the extra 4 PCIe lanes from z270 or not.  Figure out how many M.2 drives you plan to run along with any other devices that will require additional lanes and go from there.  Optane will require z270 as well, but it's up to you whether you'll use that or not.

 

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35 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

You're welcome :D How much money do you want to spend on your mobo?

Similar to what I'm at now. I'd say that 140-150€ would be the max?

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31 minutes ago, tomas710 said:

Rather randomly I found this, not personally familiar with the TUF line-up but I'm sure someone can give a more informed opinion, it just seems a really good deal compared to that z170-a. https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/z4wqqs/asus-z270-mk2-atx-lga1151-motherboard-z270-mk2

Thanks, I noted it down.

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4 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

 

For that difference in price, 7700k all the way!  

 

 

This boils down to if you need the extra 4 PCIe lanes from z270 or not.  Figure out how many M.2 drives you plan to run along with any other devices that will require additional lanes and go from there.  Optane will require z270 as well, but it's up to you whether you'll use that or not.

 

M.2 is for SSD's, right? I don't think I'll be getting one of those yet. No clue what Optane is either.

 

Would there be issues using a 7700k on a Z170, as others have suggested?

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4 minutes ago, Fleehisalt said:

Similar to what I'm at now. I'd say that 140-150€ would be the max?

Get the AsRock Z270 Extreme4. It is an amazing motherboard!

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K | Motherboard: AsRock X99 Extreme4 | Graphics Card: Gigabyte GTX 1080 G1 Gaming | RAM: 16GB G.Skill Ripjaws4 2133MHz | Storage: 1 x Samsung 860 EVO 1TB | 1 x WD Green 2TB | 1 x WD Blue 500GB | PSU: Corsair RM750x | Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro (White) | Cooling: Arctic Freezer i32

 

Mice: Logitech G Pro X Superlight (main), Logitech G Pro Wireless, Razer Viper Ultimate, Zowie S1 Divina Blue, Zowie FK1-B Divina Blue, Logitech G Pro (3366 sensor), Glorious Model O, Razer Viper Mini, Logitech G305, Logitech G502, Logitech G402

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1 minute ago, Fleehisalt said:

M.2 is for SSD's, right? I don't think I'll be getting one of those yet. No clue what Optane is either.

 

Would there be issues using a 7700k on a Z170, as others have suggested?

Sometimes you need a BIOS update. I have a Z87 board with a 4790k and never had a problem, but I've heard some people did. And you're not saving much by going with z170, plus, octane is like the one innovative thing about kaby lake (even if we won't see for a while :/ )

System

  • CPU
    I7-4790K @ 4,7GHz
  • Motherboard
    Asus MAXIMUS Formula VI
  • RAM
    Kingston HyperX FURY 16GB Kit (2x8GB) 1866MHz
  • GPU
    MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X
  • Case
    Cooler Master Cosmos SE
  • Storage
    Samsung 840 EVO 500GB+WD Green 3TB
  • PSU
    EVGA SuperNOVA 850G2 80PLUS Gold Certified
  • Display(s)
    ASUS PB277Q 27" WQHD 2560x1440 75Hz 1ms
  • Cooling
    Corsair H105 with AP121s and Phanteks fans
  • Keyboard
    Logitech G610 Orion
  • Mouse
    E-3lue E-Blue Mazer II 2500 DPI Blue LED 2.4GHz Wireless Optical Gaming Mouse
  • Sound
    Audio-Technica ATH-M20x
  • Operating System
    Windows 10
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4 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Get the AsRock Z270 Extreme4. It is an amazing motherboard!

That's out of his price range. Max is 150.

System

  • CPU
    I7-4790K @ 4,7GHz
  • Motherboard
    Asus MAXIMUS Formula VI
  • RAM
    Kingston HyperX FURY 16GB Kit (2x8GB) 1866MHz
  • GPU
    MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X
  • Case
    Cooler Master Cosmos SE
  • Storage
    Samsung 840 EVO 500GB+WD Green 3TB
  • PSU
    EVGA SuperNOVA 850G2 80PLUS Gold Certified
  • Display(s)
    ASUS PB277Q 27" WQHD 2560x1440 75Hz 1ms
  • Cooling
    Corsair H105 with AP121s and Phanteks fans
  • Keyboard
    Logitech G610 Orion
  • Mouse
    E-3lue E-Blue Mazer II 2500 DPI Blue LED 2.4GHz Wireless Optical Gaming Mouse
  • Sound
    Audio-Technica ATH-M20x
  • Operating System
    Windows 10
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Just now, tomas710 said:

That's out of his price range. Max is 150.

I think it costs $160...

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K | Motherboard: AsRock X99 Extreme4 | Graphics Card: Gigabyte GTX 1080 G1 Gaming | RAM: 16GB G.Skill Ripjaws4 2133MHz | Storage: 1 x Samsung 860 EVO 1TB | 1 x WD Green 2TB | 1 x WD Blue 500GB | PSU: Corsair RM750x | Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro (White) | Cooling: Arctic Freezer i32

 

Mice: Logitech G Pro X Superlight (main), Logitech G Pro Wireless, Razer Viper Ultimate, Zowie S1 Divina Blue, Zowie FK1-B Divina Blue, Logitech G Pro (3366 sensor), Glorious Model O, Razer Viper Mini, Logitech G305, Logitech G502, Logitech G402

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Just now, PCGuy_5960 said:

I think it costs $160...

170 Euros in The Netherlands

System

  • CPU
    I7-4790K @ 4,7GHz
  • Motherboard
    Asus MAXIMUS Formula VI
  • RAM
    Kingston HyperX FURY 16GB Kit (2x8GB) 1866MHz
  • GPU
    MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X
  • Case
    Cooler Master Cosmos SE
  • Storage
    Samsung 840 EVO 500GB+WD Green 3TB
  • PSU
    EVGA SuperNOVA 850G2 80PLUS Gold Certified
  • Display(s)
    ASUS PB277Q 27" WQHD 2560x1440 75Hz 1ms
  • Cooling
    Corsair H105 with AP121s and Phanteks fans
  • Keyboard
    Logitech G610 Orion
  • Mouse
    E-3lue E-Blue Mazer II 2500 DPI Blue LED 2.4GHz Wireless Optical Gaming Mouse
  • Sound
    Audio-Technica ATH-M20x
  • Operating System
    Windows 10
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5 minutes ago, tomas710 said:

170 Euros in The Netherlands

I think that 20 Euros more is worth it...

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K | Motherboard: AsRock X99 Extreme4 | Graphics Card: Gigabyte GTX 1080 G1 Gaming | RAM: 16GB G.Skill Ripjaws4 2133MHz | Storage: 1 x Samsung 860 EVO 1TB | 1 x WD Green 2TB | 1 x WD Blue 500GB | PSU: Corsair RM750x | Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro (White) | Cooling: Arctic Freezer i32

 

Mice: Logitech G Pro X Superlight (main), Logitech G Pro Wireless, Razer Viper Ultimate, Zowie S1 Divina Blue, Zowie FK1-B Divina Blue, Logitech G Pro (3366 sensor), Glorious Model O, Razer Viper Mini, Logitech G305, Logitech G502, Logitech G402

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Just now, PCGuy_5960 said:

I think that 20 Euros more is worth it...

Given he doesn't seem to care much about features (for what I can tell) maybe an Asus 270-k and he can use the money saved to buy the 7700k in the first place. No thrills board, still has M.2, supports his chosen hardware and thrills cost money :P 

System

  • CPU
    I7-4790K @ 4,7GHz
  • Motherboard
    Asus MAXIMUS Formula VI
  • RAM
    Kingston HyperX FURY 16GB Kit (2x8GB) 1866MHz
  • GPU
    MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X
  • Case
    Cooler Master Cosmos SE
  • Storage
    Samsung 840 EVO 500GB+WD Green 3TB
  • PSU
    EVGA SuperNOVA 850G2 80PLUS Gold Certified
  • Display(s)
    ASUS PB277Q 27" WQHD 2560x1440 75Hz 1ms
  • Cooling
    Corsair H105 with AP121s and Phanteks fans
  • Keyboard
    Logitech G610 Orion
  • Mouse
    E-3lue E-Blue Mazer II 2500 DPI Blue LED 2.4GHz Wireless Optical Gaming Mouse
  • Sound
    Audio-Technica ATH-M20x
  • Operating System
    Windows 10
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2 minutes ago, tomas710 said:

Given he doesn't seem to care much about features (for what I can tell) maybe an Asus 270-k and he can use the money saved to buy the 7700k in the first place. No thrills board, still has M.2, supports his chosen hardware and thrills cost money :P 

To be perfectly honest, I bought a very high end board (for it's time) and I don't think I've used any of the features, asides from M.2 which may be important in the future and maybe thunderbolt if he cares about it, reliability and price should matter more.

System

  • CPU
    I7-4790K @ 4,7GHz
  • Motherboard
    Asus MAXIMUS Formula VI
  • RAM
    Kingston HyperX FURY 16GB Kit (2x8GB) 1866MHz
  • GPU
    MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X
  • Case
    Cooler Master Cosmos SE
  • Storage
    Samsung 840 EVO 500GB+WD Green 3TB
  • PSU
    EVGA SuperNOVA 850G2 80PLUS Gold Certified
  • Display(s)
    ASUS PB277Q 27" WQHD 2560x1440 75Hz 1ms
  • Cooling
    Corsair H105 with AP121s and Phanteks fans
  • Keyboard
    Logitech G610 Orion
  • Mouse
    E-3lue E-Blue Mazer II 2500 DPI Blue LED 2.4GHz Wireless Optical Gaming Mouse
  • Sound
    Audio-Technica ATH-M20x
  • Operating System
    Windows 10
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7 minutes ago, tomas710 said:

To be perfectly honest, I bought a very high end board (for it's time) and I don't think I've used any of the features, asides from M.2 which may be important in the future and maybe thunderbolt if he cares about it, reliability and price should matter more.

What do you guys think about this one?

 

https://www.amazon.fr/MSI-Z270-SLI-PLUS-Socket/dp/B01N5LSIYI?SubscriptionId=AKIAJ7T5BOVUVRD2EFYQ&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B01N5LSIYI&tag=linustechti08-21

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