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Hello there,

 

I was thinking about building this of a pc, would it be worth it?

I would like to stream/play games/and maybe a little bit of 3d modeling if i can learn it. With the possibility of upgrading/adding parts so it would survive a few years.

 

All prices are in cad$

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($448.75 @ Vuugo)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X52 Liquid CPU Cooler  ($183.98 @ NCIX)
Motherboard: Asus STRIX Z270-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($253.80 @ shopRBC)
Memory: G.Skill TridentZ RGB 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($369.99 @ Newegg Canada)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($125.99 @ PC Canada)

Storage: Samsung 850 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($168.98 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($219.98 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Seagate Surveillance HDD 4TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($209.75 @ Vuugo)

Storage: Samsung 960 Evo 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($178.95 @ Vuugo) For operating system
Case: Corsair Crystal 570X RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($213.12 @ DirectCanada)

Case: Corsair Crystal 460X ATX Mid Tower Case  ($141.20 @ DirectCanada)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($164.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home Full - USB 32/64-bit  ($128.98 @ DirectCanada)
Videocard: Gigabyte GV-N1080XTREME-8GD Premium pack or STRIX-GTX1080-A8G-GAMING

Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB STRIX GAMING Video Card  ($1091.00 @ Vuugo)

Monitor: Asus VG248QE 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor  ($349.98 @ DirectCanada)

Mouse: Logitech G502 Wired Optical Mouse  ($82.50 @ Vuugo) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Bought

Keyboard: Corsair K95 RGB PLATINUM Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($239.99 @ NCIX)

Speakers: Logitech Z506 155W 5.1ch Speakers  ($115.99 @ PC Canada)

 

OR

 

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor  ($464.98 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: Thermaltake Water 3.0 Riing RGB 360 40.6 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($209.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: Asus CROSSHAIR VI HERO ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($332.99 @ PC Canada)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($399.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($168.98 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($219.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: Seagate BarraCuda 3TB 2.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($170.99 @ PC Canada)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB STRIX GAMING Video Card  ($1099.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($163.99 @ NCIX)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($114.50 @ Vuugo)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor  ($354.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Mouse: Logitech G502 Wired Optical Mouse  (Purchased For $79.99)
Speakers: Logitech Z506 155W 5.1ch Speakers  ($117.99 @ PC Canada)
Keyboard: Corsair K95 RGB PLATINUM Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($239.00 @ Newegg Canada)

 

Things I don't quite understand been a long time since I've build so rusty on the new features.

-Apparently the core can only take memory upto 2400 by my understanding so would it be better to buy weaker ram?

-Will the CPU cooler pivots block one of the ram slots?

-Would it be better to run all ssd or that new type of ssd slots on the motherboard?

-The pc case I was also thinking about the NZXT S340 Elite.

 

Things still missing would be the following

mouse

keyboard

monitor (would like 2 or 3 if possible, but can only afford 1 right now)

computer desk with mounts for screens unless they stand by themselves.

Also is it worth paying the extra money for the extra protection on the parts?

 

If i am missing anything please point it out or ask.

 

Thanks,

TrueHawkEye.

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CPU only supports 2400Mhz out of the box, but you can use Intel XMP to push the memory controller to run the sticks at their rated frequency. It's overclocking, but it's really freaking easy

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The only things I could say would be 1 - Ryzen 1700 would do better for some of your intended uses (but I know not everyone wants to go AMD, or at least not this close to product launch) and 2 - the surveillance drive?  Otherwise that's a sweet build!

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($448.75 @ Vuugo) 
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X52 Liquid CPU Cooler  ($183.98 @ NCIX) 
Motherboard: MSI Z270 GAMING M5 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($249.99 @ DirectCanada) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($299.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Samsung 960 Evo 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($174.95 @ Vuugo) 
Storage: Toshiba X300 5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($199.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Video Card: NVIDIA Titan X (Pascal) 12GB Video Card  ($943.71) 
Case: NZXT S340 Elite (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($124.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($117.98 @ NCIX) 
Total: $2744.33
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Titan Pascal is a placeholder for 1080Ti which is as fast, coming out in a couple days to most major retailers. 

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As others stated, the R7 1700 for your intended use would be nice and from what we gather has more headroom for further games.

 

Case selections.

IMO the 460x is a better buy over the 570x.

The P400s Tempered Class is a better buy over the S340 Elite.

P400s or 460x, the 460x is more expensive and just do a pros and cons. Both are fantastic cases

 

 

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Just now, Droidbot said:

Case: NZXT S340 Elite (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($124.99 @ Newegg Canada) 

eh. no.

P400s TG is higher quality, same price. And he was look at a 570x though as I just stated I personally think the 460x is the better of the 2.

 

 

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Is it not better to take a 500GB

16 hours ago, Droidbot said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($448.75 @ Vuugo) 
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X52 Liquid CPU Cooler  ($183.98 @ NCIX) 
Motherboard: MSI Z270 GAMING M5 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($249.99 @ DirectCanada) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($299.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Samsung 960 Evo 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($174.95 @ Vuugo) 
Storage: Toshiba X300 5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($199.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Video Card: NVIDIA Titan X (Pascal) 12GB Video Card  ($943.71) 
Case: NZXT S340 Elite (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($124.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($117.98 @ NCIX) 
Total: $2744.33
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-09 23:41 EST-0500

 

Titan Pascal is a placeholder for 1080Ti which is as fast, coming out in a couple days to most major retailers. 

Storage: Is it not better to take a 500GB PCI SSD and take 3 or 4 TB HDD?

Cooler: For this price range NZXT Kraken X61?

Case: For this price range is NZXT H440 black/red not better?

My own build: RΛZΞR theme

CPU: Intel Core i5 7600K // CPU cooler: Cryorig H7 // Motherboard: MSI Z270 gaming pro carbon //       

Video Card: MSI Armor gtx 1070 OC 8GB // RAM: Corsair Vengeance 16GB 3200MHz //  

SSD: Samsung EVO 960 500GB // HDD: 2x WD yellow edition 2TB //

Case: NZXT H440 RAZER edition // Power Supply: Corsair RM550x //         

Operating Software: Windows 10 pro 64-bit

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37 minutes ago, Walt said:

Is it not better to take a 500GB

Storage: Is it not better to take a 500GB PCI SSD and take 3 or 4 TB HDD?

Cooler: For this price range NZXT Kraken X61?

Case: For this price range is NZXT H440 black/red not better?

Cheapest 4TB HDD is about the same price, so why the hell not go 5TB?

He picked X52 in the main post, that's his choice not mine. 

S340 Elite is a nicer case IMO

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22 hours ago, Droidbot said:

CPU only supports 2400Mhz out of the box, but you can use Intel XMP to push the memory controller to run the sticks at their rated frequency. It's overclocking, but it's really freaking easy

Oh that is good to know, so it just a simple thing to do.

22 hours ago, robertpartridge said:

The only things I could say would be 1 - Ryzen 1700 would do better for some of your intended uses (but I know not everyone wants to go AMD, or at least not this close to product launch) and 2 - the surveillance drive?  Otherwise that's a sweet build!

Really? I have not heard much about Ryzen so far so the 1700x is better than the 1800x or is it just not worth the price difference?

As for the surveillance drive it was on sale a while ago, that was the reason.

22 hours ago, Droidbot said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($448.75 @ Vuugo) 
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X52 Liquid CPU Cooler  ($183.98 @ NCIX) 
Motherboard: MSI Z270 GAMING M5 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($249.99 @ DirectCanada) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($299.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Samsung 960 Evo 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($174.95 @ Vuugo) 
Storage: Toshiba X300 5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($199.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Video Card: NVIDIA Titan X (Pascal) 12GB Video Card  ($943.71) 
Case: NZXT S340 Elite (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($124.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($117.98 @ NCIX) 
Total: $2744.33
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-09 23:41 EST-0500

 

Titan Pascal is a placeholder for 1080Ti which is as fast, coming out in a couple days to most major retailers. 

Why the different motherboard is it better in quality?

The memory its better to buy 16 gigabytes than 8? I've always thought that if all 4 slots were full it would divided the memory usage better?

So it would be worth the extra 100$ for the 1080ti? But what is the difference between the 1080 and the ti version other then the 8 to 11 gigabytes of graphics?

22 hours ago, DarkBlade2117 said:

As others stated, the R7 1700 for your intended use would be nice and from what we gather has more headroom for further games.

 

Case selections.

IMO the 460x is a better buy over the 570x.

The P400s Tempered Class is a better buy over the S340 Elite.

P400s or 460x, the 460x is more expensive and just do a pros and cons. Both are fantastic cases

Really the Ryzen core are going to be that good?

The only thing I am not sure about the cases are is there enough ports to plug in all the fans with a cooler.

22 hours ago, TheCherryKing said:

I recommend getting a hard drive no less than 7200 RPM.

Oh, really it effect the data that much?

 

22 hours ago, Thinkfreely said:

Are you planning on buying parts right away? Few things (Ryzen 3-5 and Vega) round the corner.

Not really, but soon since I know this computers is failing and crashing really bad lately and overheating.

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7 minutes ago, TrueHawkEye said:

Really the Ryzen core are going to be that good?

The only thing I am not sure about the cases are is there enough ports to plug in all the fans with a cooler.

In multi-threaded applications the R7 1700 is not far behind the 6900k especially when clocked to 3.9 Ghz.

P400s allows for 360MM Rad in the front, 2x 140mm fan up top and a 140mm fan in the back. More than enough cooling and as for fan ports, that then is up to the mobo but if they have 2-3 then just buy fan header splitter cables for like $5 each.

AM4 AMD confirmed to have one more lineup of CPUs coming to it. Zen+ rumored 2018/2019 is going to be on the AM4 platform so that does allow for future upgradability. LGA1151 has no further improvements coming to it and we don't know for certain how much better Cannon lake is going to be over Kaby.

 

 

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Based on independent benchmarks, the current best price/performance all around gaming cpu is the i7-7700K. 

 

The H100i V2 cpu cooler is less expensive than the X52 and offers very similar performance. I would suggest mounting the radiator on two of the front SP120 RGB LED fans. 

 

AIO cpu coolers all fit within the confines of the cpu area. There is no need to worry about clearances.

 

Consider the 460X case. A little less expensive than the 570X and without the left-side glass panel.  (I've always found the underside of the motherboard tray unattractive.)

 

Get a 2x16GB memory kit. This will leave two slots available for upgrade. It will also mean marginally less strain on the memory controller. There is no performance difference between two and four sticks in a dual channel system. A kit like  G.Skill TridentZ Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory or  G.Skill TridentZ Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory would be decent. Although you can save a bit getting something like  G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-2400 Memory without any noticeable difference in performance.

 

Samsung 960 Evo 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive is not much more expensive than the 850 Pro 256GB SATA III ssd and offers seriously better performance.

 

You might also consider a different storage plan. Perhaps a 1TB SATA III ssd, (MX300 would be a good choice), coupled with a 5400 rpm hdd like the WD Blue.

 

Unless the plan is to add a second gpu in the near future, the psu is well over needs. Consider getting the 650W G2 or something similar.

 

 

80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality.

 

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On 2017-03-10 at 11:32 PM, DarkBlade2117 said:

In multi-threaded applications the R7 1700 is not far behind the 6900k especially when clocked to 3.9 Ghz.

P400s allows for 360MM Rad in the front, 2x 140mm fan up top and a 140mm fan in the back. More than enough cooling and as for fan ports, that then is up to the mobo but if they have 2-3 then just buy fan header splitter cables for like $5 each.

AM4 AMD confirmed to have one more lineup of CPUs coming to it. Zen+ rumored 2018/2019 is going to be on the AM4 platform so that does allow for future upgradability. LGA1151 has no further improvements coming to it and we don't know for certain how much better Cannon lake is going to be over Kaby.

So what is the difference in the 1700 and the 1700x, would they 3.9Ghz be a lot slower then the 7700k at 4.5Ghz and can be overclocked to 5.0Ghz?

It would be better to run a a 360mm radiator then at 240mm/280mm depending on the case capacity. Ah thanks did some looking for the fan head splitters they run from dirt cheep to expansive, seen some from 9.99 to 50. Would it be better to buy something around the Cnd$ 20$ since they are usually covered and not exposed.

Ah Did not know that the AM4 chipset was brand new, I though it was an old socket just a new CPU for it. Well I did some digging and found that their is going to be 3 more cores for the LGA1151 the CoffeyLake, CannonLake and the GeminiLake. By the looks of it, probably for labtops.

On 2017-03-11 at 0:41 AM, brob said:

Based on independent benchmarks, the current best price/performance all around gaming cpu is the i7-7700K. 

 

The H100i V2 cpu cooler is less expensive than the X52 and offers very similar performance. I would suggest mounting the radiator on two of the front SP120 RGB LED fans. 

 

AIO cpu coolers all fit within the confines of the cpu area. There is no need to worry about clearances.

 

Consider the 460X case. A little less expensive than the 570X and without the left-side glass panel.  (I've always found the underside of the motherboard tray unattractive.)

 

Get a 2x16GB memory kit. This will leave two slots available for upgrade. It will also mean marginally less strain on the memory controller. There is no performance difference between two and four sticks in a dual channel system. A kit like  G.Skill TridentZ Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory or  G.Skill TridentZ Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory would be decent. Although you can save a bit getting something like  G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-2400 Memory without any noticeable difference in performance.

 

Samsung 960 Evo 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive is not much more expensive than the 850 Pro 256GB SATA III ssd and offers seriously better performance.

 

You might also consider a different storage plan. Perhaps a 1TB SATA III ssd, (MX300 would be a good choice), coupled with a 5400 rpm hdd like the WD Blue.

 

Unless the plan is to add a second gpu in the near future, the psu is well over needs. Consider getting the 650W G2 or something similar.

 

 

I was planning on putting it in the front since heat rises so it would not be a good idea putting it over the CPU. Since the graphics card would give off a lot of heat.

Oh, thanks for the heads up, did not know all the manufacturers have a standard to follow.

Will consider it since quickly looking at prices the 570x is 240$ and the 460X is only 140$.

So would 64GB be necessary in the future or is it just over kill? So memory over 3000 is not really worth it?

Ah did not know they made M.2 SSD, Would it be a good idea just to run the operating system on the M.2 or a small ssd and the rest or games on the other drives like an ssd or another M.2?

Well it would be an idea to upgrade it when i have more money for a second one. Since it would give the computer more of a lifespan and last longer.

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25 minutes ago, TrueHawkEye said:

Well I did some digging and found that their is going to be 3 more cores for the LGA1151 the CoffeyLake, CannonLake and the GeminiLake. By the looks of it, probably for labtops.

Where did you see this? CoffeLake, CannonLake and especially GeminiLake are not supposed to be on the LGA1151 socket

 

 

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36 minutes ago, TrueHawkEye said:

So what is the difference in the 1700 and the 1700x, would they 3.9Ghz be a lot slower then the 7700k at 4.5Ghz and can be overclocked to 5.0Ghz?

It would be better to run a a 360mm radiator then at 240mm/280mm depending on the case capacity. Ah thanks did some looking for the fan head splitters they run from dirt cheep to expansive, seen some from 9.99 to 50. Would it be better to buy something around the Cnd$ 20$ since they are usually covered and not exposed.

Ah Did not know that the AM4 chipset was brand new, I though it was an old socket just a new CPU for it. Well I did some digging and found that their is going to be 3 more cores for the LGA1151 the CoffeyLake, CannonLake and the GeminiLake. By the looks of it, probably for labtops.

I was planning on putting it in the front since heat rises so it would not be a good idea putting it over the CPU. Since the graphics card would give off a lot of heat.

Oh, thanks for the heads up, did not know all the manufacturers have a standard to follow.

Will consider it since quickly looking at prices the 570x is 240$ and the 460X is only 140$.

So would 64GB be necessary in the future or is it just over kill? So memory over 3000 is not really worth it?

Ah did not know they made M.2 SSD, Would it be a good idea just to run the operating system on the M.2 or a small ssd and the rest or games on the other drives like an ssd or another M.2?

Well it would be an idea to upgrade it when i have more money for a second one. Since it would give the computer more of a lifespan and last longer.

 

Gaming benchmarks clearly show the i7-7700K out performing 1700, 1700X, and 1800X. As to overclocking, remember, the i7-7700K also overclocks. Until there is a reasonable amount of general experience, there is no knowing what most might expect in Ryzen oc. All we have at the moment are a few early reports.

 

Usually the larger the radiator the better the job of cooling. However, current Intel chips tend to hit a heat wall that no amount of traditional cooling can overcome.

 

There is no need to buy fan spliters. Use the motherboard to control fans. It has a total of six 4-pin fan headers (some can handle 3-pin fans) and an add-on fan controller card header. The Asus fan extension card, (http://www.microcenter.com/product/467190/fan_extension_card), can extend motherboard fan control to an additional 4 fans.

 

It takes a lot to need 64GB. Certainly I wouldn't think a gaming system would need that much memory any time in the near future. But content creation, especially at higher resolutions can make good use of a lot of memory. So, if needs change, you may well want to consider an upgrade.

 

The benefits of faster memory tend to be quite small in most games. It really comes down to getting the best combination of speed and timings at a desired price point. There are no absolutes here, other than to say that in most games, memory speed does not make a noticeable difference in fps.

 

M.2 choices depend on budget. With an unlimited budget, buy as much M.2 4-lane NVMe ssd as the motherboard will support. When budget is a bit of a concern, I generally suggest getting at least 240GB of M.2 4-lane NVMe ssd for boot, system., and swap in a gaming system. Tight budgets generally dictate a 240GB SATA III ssd.

 

Systems that do more than occasional content creation work should look at getting as much ssd as possible, even if it means forgoing more expensive M.2 4-lane NVMe storage in favor of SATA III units.

 

I generally prefer large drives storing everything over several smaller drives. For those who like to have some hard separation of data, I generally suggest going with a large unit and setting it up with multiple logical volumes.

 

 

80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality.

 

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A 7200 RPM hard drive is a significant improvement over a slower hard drive. With a slower drive you may encounter hanging and unresponsiveness for the games and programs installed on the drive.

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On 2017-03-12 at 7:19 PM, DarkBlade2117 said:

Where did you see this? CoffeLake, CannonLake and especially GeminiLake are not supposed to be on the LGA1151 socket

Sorry about that busy week, found the information here but not the socket type. https://liliputing.com/2016/09/leaked-intel-roadmap-shows-chips-2017-2018-coffee-lake-gemini-lake.html

On 2017-03-12 at 8:15 PM, brob said:

 

Gaming benchmarks clearly show the i7-7700K out performing 1700, 1700X, and 1800X. As to overclocking, remember, the i7-7700K also overclocks. Until there is a reasonable amount of general experience, there is no knowing what most might expect in Ryzen oc. All we have at the moment are a few early reports.

 

Usually the larger the radiator the better the job of cooling. However, current Intel chips tend to hit a heat wall that no amount of traditional cooling can overcome.

 

There is no need to buy fan spliters. Use the motherboard to control fans. It has a total of six 4-pin fan headers (some can handle 3-pin fans) and an add-on fan controller card header. The Asus fan extension card, (http://www.microcenter.com/product/467190/fan_extension_card), can extend motherboard fan control to an additional 4 fans.

 

It takes a lot to need 64GB. Certainly I wouldn't think a gaming system would need that much memory any time in the near future. But content creation, especially at higher resolutions can make good use of a lot of memory. So, if needs change, you may well want to consider an upgrade.

 

The benefits of faster memory tend to be quite small in most games. It really comes down to getting the best combination of speed and timings at a desired price point. There are no absolutes here, other than to say that in most games, memory speed does not make a noticeable difference in fps.

 

M.2 choices depend on budget. With an unlimited budget, buy as much M.2 4-lane NVMe ssd as the motherboard will support. When budget is a bit of a concern, I generally suggest getting at least 240GB of M.2 4-lane NVMe ssd for boot, system., and swap in a gaming system. Tight budgets generally dictate a 240GB SATA III ssd.

 

Systems that do more than occasional content creation work should look at getting as much ssd as possible, even if it means forgoing more expensive M.2 4-lane NVMe storage in favor of SATA III units.

 

I generally prefer large drives storing everything over several smaller drives. For those who like to have some hard separation of data, I generally suggest going with a large unit and setting it up with multiple logical volumes.

 

 

Ah so once it too hot its just stays hot, but controlled with a cooler its a stable hot.

ok thanks, because i was worried that the case would have more fans then plugs since there is 3 in the front and 2 at the top with 1 in the back. Since the motherboard has 6 ports after some looking in the details everythign should be ok.

I've been trouble finding 16 gb sticks on the market do a lot of companys don't produce them?

Well in that case i can save a few dollars on getting slower ram but not too slow, so 3000 or 3200 good?

That a nice idea i added 1 for the boot and 2 ssd for storage/gaming but they are only 500GB or is that to small? I do own a total of 2 terabits in external storage.

Thank you for the advice.

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3 hours ago, TrueHawkEye said:

Sorry about that busy week, found the information here but not the socket type. https://liliputing.com/2016/09/leaked-intel-roadmap-shows-chips-2017-2018-coffee-lake-gemini-lake.html

Ah so once it too hot its just stays hot, but controlled with a cooler its a stable hot.

ok thanks, because i was worried that the case would have more fans then plugs since there is 3 in the front and 2 at the top with 1 in the back. Since the motherboard has 6 ports after some looking in the details everythign should be ok.

I've been trouble finding 16 gb sticks on the market do a lot of companys don't produce them?

Well in that case i can save a few dollars on getting slower ram but not too slow, so 3000 or 3200 good?

That a nice idea i added 1 for the boot and 2 ssd for storage/gaming but they are only 500GB or is that to small? I do own a total of 2 terabits in external storage.

Thank you for the advice.

All the major memory manufacturers make 16GB sticks. If you can't find any it is probably due to lack of demand in your area. They are relatively new and few systems need that much memory. 

 

DDR-3000 or DDR-3200 are good speeds. 

80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality.

 

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  • 4 weeks later...

changed and added parts to the list wondering on the monitors and the streaming webcam.

 

If there is anything you can suggest that might be better shoot over and I'll look into it.

Still thinking of amd but still need a lot of work.

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