CPU UPGRADE?

[metrocsgo]

Problem:

So i'm rocking an fx 8320e along with 8 gb ddr3 2133 mhz and I think i need an upgrade while playing gta 5 my cpu % goes wild and i'm having massive dips?

Solution?

300-400 $ to spend on new mobo/cpu/ram upgrade

 

Thanks in advance

[MrPants_]

Ryzen, 2nd of March. Just sayin'

[Firecheetah13]

Well, you could probably sell your old Motherboard, Processor, and RAM and get something such as a 6600 w/ 8-16GB of DDR4 Memory and a Z170 Board.

[Droidbot]

Wait for AMD Ryzen, it's coming in a couple weeks and seems to be offering very good processors for some cheap prices. 

 

OR

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($189.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: MSI H110M PRO-VD PLUS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($53.99 @ Jet) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($57.97 @ Jet) 
Total: $301.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-15 17:06 EST-0500

[Shiv78]

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Cq4hGf
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Cq4hGf/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-7500 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($196.33 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI B250 PC MATE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($94.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory  ($96.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $388.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-15 17:06 EST-0500

[metrocsgo]

2 minutes ago, Firecheetah13 said:

Well, you could probably sell your old Motherboard, Processor, and RAM and get something such as a 6600 w/ 8-16GB of DDR4 Memory and a Z170 Board.

The used market in Denmark is trash...

[Princess Luna]

Wait for Ryzen since they seem to have good deals while it also will force Intel to go cheaper.

 

If you can not wait for whatever reason for 400 dollars you can get:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-7600 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($218.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock B250M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($78.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Team Elite Plus 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($95.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $393.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-15 17:09 EST-0500

[Firecheetah13]

Oh, greetings from the US! Well, in that case, a 6500 should do you well with a nice B150 board and 8GB of DDR4 RAM. 

[HelplmChoking]

9 minutes ago, metrocsgo said:

Problem:

So i'm rocking an fx 8320e along with 8 gb ddr3 2133 mhz and I think i need an upgrade while playing gta 5 my cpu % goes wild and i'm having massive dips?

Solution?

300-400 $ to spend on new mobo/cpu/ram upgrade

 

Thanks in advance

 

Wait for Ryzen before deciding Intel vs AMD.

 

In the meantime, I found overclocking my old 8320e to 4.0-4.2Ghz really, really helped in GTA. It did get quite warm, but I'm sure it'll be fine.

[Droidbot]

1 minute ago, Rangaman42 said:

Wait for Ryzen before deciding Intel vs AMD.

 

In the meantime, I found overclocking my old 8320e to 4.0-4.2Ghz really, really helped in GTA. It did get quite warm, but I'm sure it'll be fine.

Even if it runs hot and hard for the last two weeks of its life, it still had a good one

[HelplmChoking]

1 minute ago, Droidbot said:

Even if it runs hot and hard for the last two weeks of its life, it still had a good one

That's exactly what I thought with mine it was at 4.0Ghz it's whole life (because an 8350 is just an OC 8320). Then in the last month or so I hit 4.4GHz (4.5 was a no...) and it ran... hot. mid-high 60's when 65 is the max recommended temp but it lasted and managed to push out my last couple renders of the term.

[metrocsgo]

3 minutes ago, Rangaman42 said:

Wait for Ryzen before deciding Intel vs AMD.

 

In the meantime, I found overclocking my old 8320e to 4.0-4.2Ghz really, really helped in GTA. It did get quite warm, but I'm sure it'll be fine.

Is overclocking hard? and how?

[HelplmChoking]

1 minute ago, metrocsgo said:

Is overclocking hard? and how?

It's actually super fun on that series of FX chips. Even on a crappy motherboard like mine was. I can't remember my settings, but you can try going into the BIOS, setting the CPU multiplier to 22x (I think, 22x200=4400MHz) and voltage to around 1.3-1.35V then dial the voltage down until it's no longer stable, then up slightly.

I couldn't get past 4.4GHz without really pumping voltage in, but you may have different results. Just setting the multiplier to 20 and leaving voltage at stock will basically give you an FX 8350. Then just climb up the multiplier and voltage.

[metrocsgo]

8 minutes ago, Rangaman42 said:

It's actually super fun on that series of FX chips. Even on a crappy motherboard like mine was. I can't remember my settings, but you can try going into the BIOS, setting the CPU multiplier to 22x (I think, 22x200=4400MHz) and voltage to around 1.3-1.35V then dial the voltage down until it's no longer stable, then up slightly.

I couldn't get past 4.4GHz without really pumping voltage in, but you may have different results. Just setting the multiplier to 20 and leaving voltage at stock will basically give you an FX 8350. Then just climb up the multiplier and voltage.

Does every fx motherborad support overclocking or?
 

[HelplmChoking]

1 minute ago, metrocsgo said:

Does every fx motherborad support overclocking or?
 

 

Yup, although some of the higher end ones will allow you to go further because they have better power delivery components. I used a cheapo ASUS M5A97 R2.0, with a middle of the road 970 chipset and it ran fine. 

[metrocsgo]

4 minutes ago, Rangaman42 said:

Yup, although some of the higher end ones will allow you to go further because they have better power delivery components. I used a cheapo ASUS M5A97 R2.0, with a middle of the road 970 chipset and it ran fine. 

Is there any tech youtuber you recomend watching? for overclocking or?

[HelplmChoking]

5 minutes ago, metrocsgo said:

Is there any tech youtuber you recomend watching? for overclocking or?

I'm not sure, most people don't really go into detail. I'd google guides for it, otherwise just stick to the 4.0GHz. It's super super easy, just find the CPU or Overclock settings, and find CPU Multiplier. Set it to 20 and you have more speed.

[metrocsgo]

3 minutes ago, Rangaman42 said:

I'm not sure, most people don't really go into detail. I'd google guides for it, otherwise just stick to the 4.0GHz. It's super super easy, just find the CPU or Overclock settings, and find CPU Multiplier. Set it to 20 and you have more speed.

In the Bios?

[HelplmChoking]

1 minute ago, metrocsgo said:

In the Bios?

Yup, it shouldn't be hard to find. It should be nice and obvious.

[metrocsgo]

16 hours ago, Strike105X said:

What's your mobo? An oc might fix this.

Asus ms a97

[metrocsgo]

11 hours ago, Strike105X said:

R2.0 and its not the LE one right?

I don't think so

[r2good4u]

On 2/15/2017 at 5:05 PM, Firecheetah13 said:

Well, you could probably sell your old Motherboard, Processor, and RAM and get something such as a 6600 w/ 8-16GB of DDR4 Memory and a Z170 Board.

or a 7600K because why go with the older chip at that point

[Firecheetah13]

8 minutes ago, r2good4u said:

or a 7600K because why go with the older chip at that point

This is mainly due to the fact that the motherboards are cheaper, unless you want to have to do a BIOS update, which not all are capable of doing. The second reason is obviously price, but I'll get to that in a second. With the performance gains seen from Kaby Lake (3-5% based on the benchmarks that I've seen), the 5-10% price difference isn't worth it. Skylake is just a hair worse than Kaby Lake, it's not like Sandy Bridge to Ivy Bridge. Until a real upgrade comes, like Cannon Lake or Ryzen, I do not consider Kaby Lake any newer than Skylake, because it uses the same basic architecture.

[Shiv78]

3 hours ago, Firecheetah13 said:

With the performance gains seen from Kaby Lake (3-5% based on the benchmarks that I've seen), the 5-10% price difference isn't worth it

$4 for a 7% performance increase is a pretty good deal. Z270 boards vs Z170 isn't too bad; only the lower end is bad, because there is no H210 (at least, not yet).

($4 is about 1.7% more cost-wise)

 

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-7600K-vs-Intel-Core-i5-6600K/3885vs3503

[Firecheetah13]

1 hour ago, Shiv78 said:

$4 for a 7% performance increase is a pretty good deal. Z270 boards vs Z170 isn't too bad; only the lower end is bad, because there is no H210 (at least, not yet).

($4 is about 1.7% more cost-wise)

 

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-7600K-vs-Intel-Core-i5-6600K/3885vs3503

There just isn't a big enough performance increase for me to call it an upgrade from Skylake. It's more just like the ability to buy more chips relative to Skylake priced chips.