Linus should review and compare this monitor to others...

[WhiteSkyMage]

I am still waiting for AMD to release their Vega 10 GPUs only so that I can upgrade my old IPS 1080p 60Hz monitor from Dell to this 21:9 Samsung CF791. People have told me good things about 21:9 Ultrawide monitors, and I would like to try it. Let's ask Linus to review this one. I haven't seen monitor reviews from him recently, and I like how he does them...JayTwoCents doesn't fall any far behind though...however reviews for this monitor are missing from popular reviewers... Why is that?

[Oshino Shinobu]

There's nothing new about that monitor, there's not much reason to review it. People tend to be interested in the new things coming out, not already existing tech.

 

http://www.digitaltrends.com/monitor-reviews/samsung-cf791-review/

[Princess Luna]

It does look a solid monitor, too bad ultra-wide curved screens are more expansive than livers

[WhiteSkyMage]

6 minutes ago, Oshino Shinobu said:

There's nothing new about that monitor, there's not much reason to review it. People tend to be interested in the new things coming out, not already existing tech.

 

http://www.digitaltrends.com/monitor-reviews/samsung-cf791-review/

By "new things" you mean VR? I'm not getting into that until they don't deliver the best of it. Right now - it's a total gimmick.

[Oshino Shinobu]

1 minute ago, WhiteSkyMage said:

By "new things" you mean VR? I'm not getting into that until they don't deliver the best of it. Right now - it's a total gimmick.

It's a new, emerging technology that loads of people are interested in. Even if it is a gimmick right now (it is, I had a DK2 and only used it for about a month) people are interested in how it's progressing, as it's not something that's already very established. 

 

For monitors, not too many people are excited for something that we already have in a complete form. The only real difference from its competition is that it uses a VA panel rather than IPS, which many consider a bad thing. 

[WhiteSkyMage]

53 minutes ago, Oshino Shinobu said:

It's a new, emerging technology that loads of people are interested in. Even if it is a gimmick right now (it is, I had a DK2 and only used it for about a month) people are interested in how it's progressing, as it's not something that's already very established. 

 

For monitors, not too many people are excited for something that we already have in a complete form. The only real difference from its competition is that it uses a VA panel rather than IPS, which many consider a bad thing. 

I don't know of ANY monitor that is an IPS and has an sRGB gamut of 125%. Only the VA (with Quantum Dot) has it. Knowing that, then how is a VA worse than an IPS, with all of the problems of glowing that IPS monitors have? Mine doesn't have it, and it is a beautiful IPS monitor, but hell what is better - a IPS or a VA (with HDR)? Seriously what's the best?

[Oshino Shinobu]

12 minutes ago, WhiteSkyMage said:

I don't know of ANY monitor that is an IPS and has an sRGB gamut of 125%. Only the QD has it. Knowing that, then how is a VA worse than an IPS, with all of the problems of glowing that IPS monitors have? Mine doesn't have it, and it is a beatiful IPS monitor, but hell what is better - a IPS or a VA (with HDR)? Seriously what's the best?

Neither is definitively better. I personally like the blacks you can get from VA panels, but the viewing angles and colours are often a little worse than IPS from my experience with them. People have reported ghosting issues with VA panels, but I've never used a VA panel for gaming or particularly fast moving content, so I can't really say much on that. And with the nonsense that is a monitor spec sheet, there's very little to determine how it performs from the response time (or really anything else, most of a monitor's spec sheet is meaningless) 

 

I'd personally go for IPS, partially because I've had multiple monitors with IPS panels and all have been good, as well as the fact there's a lot more choice for IPS monitors, especially with all the new monitors coming out, mainly with IPS. 

 

EDIT: I feel like VA is good for movie consumption due to the good blacks, but for PC use, I'd go with IPS. If you're wanting a display for movies, OLED is the way to go, kind of rendering VA a little pointless if you ask me. 

[WhiteSkyMage]

13 minutes ago, Oshino Shinobu said:

Neither is definitively better. I personally like the blacks you can get from VA panels, but the viewing angles and colours are often a little worse than IPS from my experience with them. People have reported ghosting issues with VA panels, but I've never used a VA panel for gaming or particularly fast moving content, so I can't really say much on that. And with the nonsense that is a monitor spec sheet, there's very little to determine how it performs from the response time (or really anything else, most of a monitor's spec sheet is meaningless) 

 

I'd personally go for IPS, partially because I've had multiple monitors with IPS panels and all have been good, as well as the fact there's a lot more choice for IPS monitors, especially with all the new monitors coming out, mainly with IPS. 

I see, but then response times of monitors are only tested by TFT Central... When I think of getting an IPS, I think of the Acer XR382CQK (that has not been released yet), but it is a ~4K Ultrawide beast with the same pixel density as a 34" 3440x1440p monitor or a 27" 1440p monitor (16:9) - around 110ppi. Though i don't think it would be on the market by summer, I could still go for that Samsung

[Oshino Shinobu]

1 minute ago, WhiteSkyMage said:

I see, but then response times of monitors are only tested by TFT Central... When I think of getting an IPS, I think of the Acer XR382CQK (that has not been released yet), but it is a ~4K Ultrawide beast with the same pixel density as a 34" 3440x1440p monitor or a 27" 1440p monitor (16:9) - around 110ppi.

TFT Central does input lag/delay testing, not response time testing (IIRC), they're very different things. 

 

I'm looking forward to the very high res ultrawides. With DP 1.4, we should be able to have much higher than 3840x1600 (there's the LG 38UC99 for that as well). 

[WhiteSkyMage]

9 minutes ago, Oshino Shinobu said:

TFT Central does input lag/delay testing, not response time testing (IIRC), they're very different things. 

 

I'm looking forward to the very high res ultrawides. With DP 1.4, we should be able to have much higher than 3840x1600 (there's the LG 38UC99 for that as well). 

TFT did include response time comparison charts though. This is review for LG 38UC99. The input lag however looks horrible for this monitor: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/lg_38uc99.htm

This is the reason I am looking for the Acer version. If they can tweak it and get a lower lag values so it could work better for gaming, then we have a winner. But there is no review for the Samsung CF791. This is worrying...