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if I'm edting a picture on my 1050p monitor will that picture looks completely different on 1080 new monitor

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I like to photoshop editing a lot

 

but I have a question

lets say I'm Editing a photo on old 1050p 22 inch monitor

 

will that image looks different

like bad color correction ,color matching etc

on a modern 1080p or 4k monitor ?

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Yep, if you get a high-end 1440p/4K IPS panel you will see a very noticeable difference.

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Yes.


Let's break it down.

You're editing a 1080p picture in Photoshop on your monitor. You are zoomed out completely. Those 1920x1080 pixels are now crammed into a (for example) 500x500 pixels part of your screen. Those pixels will look different than if they are on their native display (because think about it, multiple pixels of the images have to share 1 pixel on your screen).

 

And as for the colors: all monitors are different, so yeah it will look different. 

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5 minutes ago, Minibois said:

Yes.


Let's break it down.

You're editing a 1080p picture in Photoshop on your monitor. You are zoomed out completely. Those 1920x1080 pixels are now crammed into a (for example) 500x500 pixels part of your screen. Those pixels will look different than if they are on their native display (because think about it, multiple pixels of the images have to share 1 pixel on your screen).

 

And as for the colors: all monitors are different, so yeah it will look different. 

thanks

I have a 40 inch 1080p Toshiba tv

good enough

or 1080p monitor is better ??

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Image size scaling is handled pretty well so isn't something to be worried about.

 

Colour matching is a nightmare and there is no easy solution. All monitors will vary in their colour reproduction, both in terms of what they can reproduce, and how accurately they do that. You can make a monitor more accurate by calibrating it using an external device, but there is no way to make it show more colours than it can. At best, you can calibrate your monitor to be as good as it can be, then it is up to the viewer to have theirs likewise calibrated if they want to see images as intended. 

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Just now, maria2244 said:

thanks

I have a 40 inch 1080p Toshiba tv

good enough

or 1080p monitor is better ??

TV's usually have high input lag, because they have image processing on them (which enhances the image, but is not really something you want when you are editing a picture on it).

Get a 1080p IPS monitor. LG has a 24" one for roughly 150 USD

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The resulution is not as important. Sure it helps to have a high res monitor to see the image sharper without zooming in. But really, you can zoom in 1:1 in photoshop where 1pixel takes 1 pixel on your monitor, that area (area of the image) will just be a lot smaller than what it would if you had a say 4K monitor. 

 

The main problem will be color. I have this one myself as I have not yet gotten myself a high quality IPS monitor with accurate colors. 

 

I would try tune the monitor as good as you can for most true to life colors. Then edit from that. Personallt I check them on my iPad or iPhone after to make sure my colors are good enough as they have nice screens with good color. If they look bad on those I take them back to editing and tweak the colors and try again. (Adobe even has an app to make your phone so you can view your canvas but imo its a bit laggy) 

 

But in short, the resulution is not the main problem but rather contrast, brightness and colors. (Unless that old monitor actually is a good calibrated one but I guess it most likley isnt as you ask about it here)

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You need to Color calibrate both monitors to get the image colours to match. You will probably find that one monitor is set to 6500K that is close to saylight and the other one is set to 900K which looks quite blue.

 

Linus did a tech quickie video on calibration the other day that you might find helpful

 

 

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8 hours ago, maria2244 said:

 

What exactly "photoshop editing" do you do?

 

If your monitor resolution is so awful or doesn't offer enough "real estate" space to view your photos without zooming in/out too much or moving the UI around, then you may want to think about replacing your monitor with another that has the resolution required.

 

As for colors. do any color actually appear to be off the mark?  Are you printing your work and the colors you see on the screen and on printed paper do not match?

 

 

If you're that worried about colors, start with this article:

http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/what-is-colour/

and this article too:

http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/calibration-and-profiling-not-the-same-thing/

 

And to answer your topic title question:

  • In terms of resolution of your images, switching to using a monitor with a different resolution doesn't change the resolution of your image.  The "physical" properties of your image only changes if you resize, crop, alter the image yourself.
  • In terms of color, it may be that the colors appear differently.  A shade of RED  you see on your old monitor may look different from the shade of RED being displayed on the new monitor even if in Photoshop both are set to the RGB values of (255,0,0).  But that's mainly due to the hardware itself and not software.

 

2 hours ago, xQubeZx said:

I would try tune the monitor as good as you can for most true to life colors. Then edit from that. Personallt I check them on my iPad or iPhone after to make sure my colors are good enough as they have nice screens with good color. If they look bad on those I take them back to editing and tweak the colors and try again. (Adobe even has an app to make your phone so you can view your canvas but imo its a bit laggy) 

If you have a color accurate or calibrated monitor, you don't even need to use an external app.  You can soft proof the colors in Photoshop.

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9 hours ago, AkiraDaarkst said:

What exactly "photoshop editing" do you do?

 

If your monitor resolution is so awful or doesn't offer enough "real estate" space to view your photos without zooming in/out too much or moving the UI around, then you may want to think about replacing your monitor with another that has the resolution required.

 

As for colors. do any color actually appear to be off the mark?  Are you printing your work and the colors you see on the screen and on printed paper do not match?

 

 

If you're that worried about colors, start with this article:

http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/what-is-colour/

and this article too:

http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/calibration-and-profiling-not-the-same-thing/

 

And to answer your topic title question:

  • In terms of resolution of your images, switching to using a monitor with a different resolution doesn't change the resolution of your image.  The "physical" properties of your image only changes if you resize, crop, alter the image yourself.
  • In terms of color, it may be that the colors appear differently.  A shade of RED  you see on your old monitor may look different from the shade of RED being displayed on the new monitor even if in Photoshop both are set to the RGB values of (255,0,0).  But that's mainly due to the hardware itself and not software.

 

If you have a color accurate or calibrated monitor, you don't even need to use an external app.  You can soft proof the colors in Photoshop.

My monitor is sadly not calibrated, it was however a suggestion to achive good colors

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4 hours ago, xQubeZx said:

My monitor is sadly not calibrated, it was however a suggestion to achive good colors

In my opinion, it only seriously matters if you are doing reproduction work (i.e. producing your digital images to print).  If you publish digitally, as an example you take a nice landscape photo and post it on Flickr or Facebook or other online locations, people who view it will view the photo on their own uncalibrated monitors.  And modern monitor tech has improved where color inaccuracies are not that serious like it might have been more than a decade ago.  Just embed the profile into your photo.

 

Otherwise, if you are seriously concerned, just buy a monitor calibration tool (prices have come down a lot) and use it.  For general purposes, calibrating the monitor for sRGB or if you have a 10-bit monitor then AdobeRGB is sufficient.  For specialist purposes, calibrate the monitor for the color spaces you work with.

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4 hours ago, AkiraDaarkst said:

In my opinion, it only seriously matters if you are doing reproduction work (i.e. producing your digital images to print).  If you publish digitally, as an example you take a nice landscape photo and post it on Flickr or Facebook or other online locations, people who view it will view the photo on their own uncalibrated monitors.  And modern monitor tech has improved where color inaccuracies are not that serious like it might have been more than a decade ago.  Just embed the profile into your photo.

 

Otherwise, if you are seriously concerned, just buy a monitor calibration tool (prices have come down a lot) and use it.  For general purposes, calibrating the monitor for sRGB or if you have a 10-bit monitor then AdobeRGB is sufficient.  For specialist purposes, calibrate the monitor for the color spaces you work with.

Do these monitor calibration tools fix issues where the image looks to have the exposure I want on my TN panel monitor, but when viewed on iPhone or iPad the image seems 1 to 1.5 stops under exposed?

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27 minutes ago, thekillergazebo said:

Do these monitor calibration tools fix issues where the image looks to have the exposure I want on my TN panel monitor, but when viewed on iPhone or iPad the image seems 1 to 1.5 stops under exposed?

Is the difference in perceived exposure level due to the differences in brightness level capabilities of the different screens?

 

What a hardware calibration tool does, if it's a good one:

  • Before measuring the monitor, it should calibrate itself using a built-in or included sensor cover for calibration.
  • It should also measure the room's ambient lighting and brightness level.  Your perception of color on a screen can differ if your are in a dark room where the only source of light is the monitor or if you are in room that is brightly lit.
  • You can also adjust/select desired brightness levels, of the monitor and even tell the calibration software to assume your room has a certain brightness level.
  • Then the hardware sensor will scan the accompanying software's pre-set color patches to measure the difference between the color that it is trying to display and the actual shade of color that the monitor is producing on the screen.
  • The end result is an ICC profile that your monitor/OS can use, a software like Photoshop can use, etc. to determine how much adjustment is necessary to display colors.  For example, you want to display RGB 255,0,0 RED but the monitor displays a different shade, the profile tells the application how far your monitor's displayed RED is different from desired RED and how it should adjust to display the more correct color.

With a calibrated monitor and proper color profiles, you can use software like Photoshop to softproof your images.  Some hardware calibration tools (along with certain accessories) can also be used to develop a profile of your projectors, printers, phone/tablet screens, and cameras.  If you can use a hardware calibration tool to create a profile of your phone/tablet's displays, you can use them in Photoshop to soft proof the image before publishing.  Softproofing simulates how your image's colors and brightness/exposure levels may look on displays that use other color spaces/profiles.  Photoshop also lets you work with different color profiles.

 

If you're interested about color management, I recommend reading this book.  I myself need to get a copy to replace the one I lent someone and never got back.

https://www.amazon.com/Real-World-Color-Management-2nd/dp/0321267222/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1485795059&sr=8-1&keywords=real+world+color+management

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1 hour ago, thekillergazebo said:

Do these monitor calibration tools fix issues where the image looks to have the exposure I want on my TN panel monitor, but when viewed on iPhone or iPad the image seems 1 to 1.5 stops under exposed?

It is probaply wrong gamma

http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/gamma_calibration.php

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