Intel Pentium G4560 - New processor

[Itayush]

Hey, I've been wondering between a few lower end CPU's (mostly for workstation) and between Intel Pentium G3258, Intel Pentium G4400, Intel Pentium G4500 and AMD A10-7700K, the AMD one caught my eye due to it's price.

The workstation build gonna be (oh well, for workstation stuff ^^) for Browsing, using few programs (not heavy ones), studying, movies and such. So I don't need a strong CPU/GPU.
This one seem to have real nice specs with low price (was 93$ and went down to 75$ last week). The others have similar price, but it's just their price (it didn't went down recently). So I assumed that the price went down due to RyZen going out.
The cons and pros that I notice about the AMD one between all the CPU mentioned above:
Pros:
4 cores (more not so heavy tasks - which is what the build need).
Good amount of GHz.
Price just went down.

Better integrated graphic card.

Cons:

Intel has better cores(but for my use, more cores will probably be better than less and stronger cores).
No L3 Cache.

Close to double watts than the others!

What's your opinion guys?

If you have other suggestions than what I mentioned, I would be more than happy to listen
 

[m0k]

6 minutes ago, Itayush said:

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I would HIGHLY recommend considering a pc around the Pentium G4560
2core 4threads at 3.5ghz

intel hd 610 gpu 

 

and AMD quadcore is often much weaker than modern dual-core pentiums (and this one is hyperthreaded!)

[Djole123]

I've seen some HP system for 350-ish dollars refurbished on Amazon with an A12-9800 on the AM4 platform and an R7 450. I'll link it as soon as I find it.

[Itayush]

On 1/23/2017 at 7:32 PM, mok said:

I would HIGHLY recommend considering a pc around the Pentium G4560
2core 4threads at 3.5ghz

intel hd 610 gpu 

 

and AMD quadcore is often much weaker than modern dual-core pentiums (and this one is hyperthreaded!)

 

On 1/23/2017 at 7:36 PM, Djole123 said:

I've seen some HP system for 350-ish dollars refurbished on Amazon with an A12-9800 on the AM4 platform and an R7 450. I'll link it as soon as I find it.

Couldn't find any good reviews on Pentium G4560, so I would rather keep searching for an Intel DualCore with Hyperthreading or a QuadCore and with reasonable price...
I might just settle for an Intel DualCore with a good price if I won't be able to find anything better..

[m0k]

19 minutes ago, Itayush said:

 

Couldn't find any good reviews on Pentium G4560, so I would rather keep searching for an Intel DualCore with Hyperthreading or a QuadCore and with reasonable price...
I might just settle for an Intel DualCore with a good price if I won't be able to find anything better..

Well the Pentium G4560 is a brand new processor

theres really not much to review. its a dual core with hyperthreading.

just like an i3 but clocked slightly lower

 i believe it retails for less than 90bucks

 

[Itayush]

On 1/24/2017 at 8:37 PM, mok said:

Well the Pentium G4560 is a brand new processor

theres really not much to review. its a dual core with hyperthreading.

just like an i3 but clocked slightly lower

 i believe it retails for less than 90bucks

 

It's specs seem pretty good for what I need.
2 cores, 4threads (hyperthreading), 3.5GHz, L1/L2/L3 caches and an integrated GPU.
The price looks alright for the specs, altho it seem that only one place is currently selling it and for $75 (when intel recommended price is actually $64), and once again - It's a new processor... Kinda hard to buy something with no reviews on it..

[m0k]

9 minutes ago, Itayush said:

It's specs seem pretty good for what I need.
2 cores, 4threads (hyperthreading), 3.5GHz, L1/L2/L3 caches and an integrated GPU.
The price looks alright for the specs, altho it seem that only one place is currently selling it and for $75 (when intel recommended price is actually $64), and once again - It's a new processor... Kinda hard to buy something with no reviews on it..

yeah if youre not in a hurry i would keep searching for reviews before buying it

[Itayush]

On 1/27/2017 at 9:54 PM, mok said:

yeah if youre not in a hurry i would keep searching for reviews before buying it

I am actually a little bit in a hurry, but I wanna wait as much as possible before building the computer.. I also wanna wait if I can for RyZen to be out so the prices will drop(hopefully).

 

Any other thoughts/suggestions anyone?

[JoostinOnline]

On 1/24/2017 at 0:37 PM, mok said:

i believe it retails for less than 90bucks

The G4620 retails for $86, and it's actually slightly more powerful than the i3-6100 (the only difference is the architecture), which is $120.

 

Right now all the new Pentiums are selling above MSRP though, probably because they are in high demand.

[Itayush]

8 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

The G4620 retails for $86, and it's actually slightly more powerful than the i3-6100 (the only difference is the architecture), which is $120.

 

Right now all the new Pentiums are selling above MSRP though, probably because they are in high demand.

The G4620 seem too much for my needs (family/work computer).
As mentioned before, the G4560 doesn't seem expensive and can be well suited for my needs (correct me if I am wrong)..

[JoostinOnline]

1 minute ago, Itayush said:

The G4620 seem too much for my needs (family/work computer).
As mentioned before, the G4560 doesn't seem expensive and can be well suited for my needs (correct me if I am wrong)..

Yeah, I was just saying the only one that retails for near $90 is the G4620.  The others are considerably lower.

[Itayush]

4 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

Yeah, I was just saying the only one that retails for near $90 is the G4620.  The others are considerably lower.

Gotcha
I also notice that Intel Pentium G3258 seem quite fine for my needs.. It has no hyperthreading but it is afterall $10 less and a lot of good reviews.

So, opinions?

[nonono]

will you wait for G4600 intel pentium processor with hyperthreading

[JoostinOnline]

1 hour ago, Itayush said:

Gotcha
I also notice that Intel Pentium G3258 seem quite fine for my needs.. It has no hyperthreading but it is afterall $10 less and a lot of good reviews.

So, opinions?

The difference is substantial enough that you should definitely pay the extra $10.  Hyper-threading does wonders.

 

[Itayush]

2 hours ago, dattharao said:

will you wait for G4600 intel pentium processor with hyperthreading

 

1 hour ago, JoostinOnline said:

The difference is substantial enough that you should definitely pay the extra $10.  Hyper-threading does wonders.

 

Yeah you're right, $10 for hyperthreading is probably worth it. But yet again, there are 0 reviews on those new Pentium cpus.. 
Also, I am not sure if I should wait for RyZen to be out since it could take a long time till the prices drop (if they even will drop)...

[nonono]

ITAYUSH you just go blindfolded for g4600 it will never disappoint you

[Apache Protocol]

@Itayush I have been to Pentium to i3 and i5, if you can spit the cash go with the G4560 and pair it with the GPU you can afford and you can play games no problem.

on some test video the g4560 paired with a decent GPU can give almost same performance of a i7 but i7 is far greater but nether the less it can be a good start up.

 

Budget is Key so do what you have.

 

Side Note G3258 is a Great CPU back 2014 and 2 cores are a limiting factor, the new G4560 is quite a budget and perform almost an i3 so do your research and see what you can bump your self into.

[Itayush]

5 hours ago, dattharao said:

ITAYUSH you just go blindfolded for g4600 it will never disappoint you

 

14 minutes ago, Apache Protocol said:

@Itayush I have been to Pentium to i3 and i5, if you can spit the cash go with the G4560 and pair it with the GPU you can afford and you can play games no problem.

on some test video the g4560 paired with a decent GPU can give almost same performance of a i7 but i7 is far greater but nether the less it can be a good start up.

 

Budget is Key so do what you have.

 

Side Note G3258 is a Great CPU back 2014 and 2 cores are a limiting factor, the new G4560 is quite a budget and perform almost an i3 so do your research and see what you can bump your self into.

This build is going to be for family/office work, not strictly for gaming(it will be used sometimes for some games and not heavy stuff). For my own build (which I will be doing in 3-6 months from now) I will go for a much beefier rig, mostly for gaming. But once again, for this case, an integrated GPU will do it's job.

I will be investing a bit more for a hyper-threading CPU such as G4560, but I would like to see more suggestions/options before I commit to it. For example, I don' t see a reason to invest $10-$15 more for 4600, simply because (I am pretty sure) it's not needed for this build and it also has very little difference.
Altho I would like to hear more nice suggestions if anyone got some

[JoostinOnline]

12 hours ago, Itayush said:

 

Yeah you're right, $10 for hyperthreading is probably worth it. But yet again, there are 0 reviews on those new Pentium cpus.. 
Also, I am not sure if I should wait for RyZen to be out since it could take a long time till the prices drop (if they even will drop)...

There have been a ton of benchmarks. That's what matters. Search "Pentium G4600" on YouTube. You'll see actual performance. 

[Apache Protocol]

14 hours ago, Itayush said:

 

This build is going to be for family/office work, not strictly for gaming(it will be used sometimes for some games and not heavy stuff). For my own build (which I will be doing in 3-6 months from now) I will go for a much beefier rig, mostly for gaming. But once again, for this case, an integrated GPU will do it's job.

I will be investing a bit more for a hyper-threading CPU such as G4560, but I would like to see more suggestions/options before I commit to it. For example, I don' t see a reason to invest $10-$15 more for 4600, simply because (I am pretty sure) it's not needed for this build and it also has very little difference.
Altho I would like to hear more nice suggestions if anyone got some

For office and basic task currently got 3 client build and all build was using a G4560. but still waiting for the release of G4600 here in the Philippines.

[Itayush]

12 hours ago, JoostinOnline said:

There have been a ton of benchmarks. That's what matters. Search "Pentium G4600" on YouTube. You'll see actual performance. 

 

1 hour ago, Apache Protocol said:

For office and basic task currently got 3 client build and all build was using a G4560. but still waiting for the release of G4600 here in the Philippines.

How's this build for the office computer?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/J3RDhq
I chose 550W PSU since I wanna have the option to add a GPU rather than just having the integrated GPU that is in the CPU.

I tried to go only for the things that I'll need in the office computer, but I got a feeling that I can squeeze the price even more with similar components that will suit the goal of the build.

Any ideas/Suggestions?

[Nena Trinity]

On 23.1.2017 at 6:32 PM, mok said:

I would HIGHLY recommend considering a pc around the Pentium G4560
2core 4threads at 3.5ghz

intel hd 610 gpu 

 

and AMD quadcore is often much weaker than modern dual-core pentiums (and this one is hyperthreaded!)

Same if all cores are used but the Pentium is faster if 2 or less cores are used...

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Pentium-G4560-vs-AMD-Athlon-X4-880K/3892vsm121029

[JoostinOnline]

6 hours ago, Itayush said:

 

How's this build for the office computer?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/J3RDhq
I chose 550W PSU since I wanna have the option to add a GPU rather than just having the integrated GPU that is in the CPU.

I tried to go only for the things that I'll need in the office computer, but I got a feeling that I can squeeze the price even more with similar components that will suit the goal of the build.

Any ideas/Suggestions?

Get a smaller, but higher rated PSU. Your system uses 129W. You add a GPU to it and that's, what, 210W max?  You'll obviously want some overhead, but you don't need 550W.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=17-151-124

That one is far more efficient and fully modular, on sale for about the same price. It might even be cheaper if you add it to PC Part Picker. 

[Itayush]

3 hours ago, JoostinOnline said:

Get a smaller, but higher rated PSU. Your system uses 129W. You add a GPU to it and that's, what, 210W max?  You'll obviously want some overhead, but you don't need 550W.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=17-151-124

That one is far more efficient and fully modular, on sale for about the same price. It might even be cheaper if you add it to PC Part Picker. 

I actually did the PSU calculator test and it showed 126W(176W recommended - and yes I added a few little things that I forgot to add in the actual build), but after adding AMD R9 280x for example, it flew all the way up to 422W (recommended).

But yeah,  I guess I should definitely not go any higher than 450W.
Btw, what about the other parts that I picked?
The RAM seem to have very good reviews and it's really cheap.
The Storage I am not so sure about.

The MOBO seem like a fine pick, couldn't find anything that seem better.
PS:

I couldn't find the PSU you linked in pcpartpicker, there was only 1 PSU with the same name but semi-modular.
Thank you!

[Nciwho]

1 hour ago, Itayush said:

I actually did the PSU calculator test and it showed 126W(176W recommended - and yes I added a few little things that I forgot to add in the actual build), but after adding AMD R9 280x for example, it flew all the way up to 422W (recommended).

But yeah,  I guess I should definitely not go any higher than 450W.
Btw, what about the other parts that I picked?
The RAM seem to have very good reviews and it's really cheap.
The Storage I am not so sure about.

The MOBO seem like a fine pick, couldn't find anything that seem better.
PS:

I couldn't find the PSU you linked in pcpartpicker, there was only 1 PSU with the same name but semi-modular.
Thank you!

Well as far as PSUs go, the more modular it is, the less you need to stuff uneeded cables elsewhere in the case. 

Luke already did a video showing that cable clutter does not affect performance or airflow at all.

 

As for storage, any SSD will do. They're all fast and anything that's slower is so insignificant that you won't notice the speeds. What you should be looking for is how many gigs per dollar you're paying for but the 250 gig samsung for 100 bucks is a good choice and more than enough space. If you're going to be hording media like movies and music then it's best to pick up a hard drive down the line when it goes on sale. You could pick up 3TB for 100 bucks.