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Hi,

 

I went crossfire with HD7970's a while ago and was just wondering if my AMD 970 BE was holding my system back because of outputting games at 1440p?

 

Thanks + I fancy an upgrade  :)

 

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I am not 100% sure but i did have a friend go from a quad core phenom to an 8350 and he said it was a vast improvement even though they both run at 4.0ghz i think the Phenoms are Faux core processors and not true 4/8 core like the FX is.

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your motherboard isnt really relevant. what cpu do you have?

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Hi,

 

I went crossfire with HD7970's a while ago and was just wondering if my AMD 970 BE was holding my system back because of outputting games at 1440p?

 

Thanks + I fancy an upgrade  :)

 

(The Rest)

MB: GA-990XA-UD3

RAM: 8gb DDR3 

120gb SSD

H70 

TX 850 v2 PSU

Gimme a link to model
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It is. If you upgrade, go for an i5 4670K/FX 8350.

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your motherboard isnt really relevant. what cpu do you have?

He said it's an

AMD 970 BE

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Well, I can't say for sure based on the specs, I would imagine there's some sort of bottleneck. The best way to check is to play a game and see your GPU (on both GPUs) and CPU usage.

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^

 

FX-8350 is your best option.

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He said it's an

 

uuh, sry bout that. im not that much into amds lineup, i thought he meant the 970 chipset :D

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I am not 100% sure but i did have a friend go from a quad core phenom to an 8350 and he said it was a vast improvement even though they both run at 4.0ghz i think the Phenoms are Faux core processors and not true 4/8 core like the FX is.

 

 

It depends what you're doing, but yeah... get a new CPU...

 

 

It depends what you're doing, but yeah... get a new CPU...

Was Looking to go straight for the FX9370 as the FX9590 didn't really look worth the extra but they draw a lot and run hot....

 

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The GPU? they are gigabyte and have stopped being sold I think

your motherboard isnt really relevant. what cpu do you have?

AMD Phenom II x4 970 BE

 

 

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get a new haswell i5 and you should se something like 10-20 extra FPS it's never super sure, but yeah the processor does bottlenecking you graphics cards.

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get a new haswell i5 and you should se something like 10-20 extra FPS it's never super sure, but yeah the processor does bottlenecking you graphics cards.

The i5 has good reviews and handles games well, would it fair better in the more intensive CPU games like Dayz and Skyrim?

 

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The i5 has good reviews and handles games well, would it fair better in the more intensive CPU games like Dayz and Skyrim?

 

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it would be alot better, if you also overclock then you got bottleneck on the graphics cards ( which is good, thats what you want also you should get a bottleneck on the graphics cards anyway if you have a i5) and then you should get the truly performance that the graphics card can give

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it would be alot better, if you also overclock then you got bottleneck on the graphics cards ( which is good, thats what you want also you should get a bottleneck on the graphics cards anyway if you have a i5) and then you should get the truly performance that the graphics card can give

Which i5 would you recommend?

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Which i5 would you recommend?

Intel Core i5-4670K but i hope you know that you need a new motherboard for this to work

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Intel Core i5-4670K but i hope you know that you need a new motherboard for this to work

Indeed but the performance of motherboards isn't really varied, its just the features that vary.

 

I will research the i5-4670k

 

Thank you 

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Indeed but the performance of motherboards isn't really varied, its just the features that vary.

 

I will research the i5-4670k

 

Thank you 

Before I can analyze the problem that your having  is I need to know the reason for the bottleneck & your full system specs before we look into major upgrades let me know

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Before I can analyze the problem that your having  is I need to know the reason for the bottleneck & your full system specs before we look into major upgrades let me know

The full spec is at the top in the opening lines and the list, its more of a what to upgrade next.

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So, 9370 Then for Dayz Performance?

No. Just get a 8320/8350 and oc it with a decent cooler.

 

8320 + Hyper 212 Evo or 8350 + Havik 140. 

Depends how much you want to spend. 

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No. Just get a 8320/8350 and oc it with a decent cooler.

 

8320 + Hyper 212 Evo or 8350 + Hacik 140. 

Depends how much yo want to spend. 

I have a H70?

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I have a H70?

Oh, I missed that. Just stick with that instead then. 

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