ADD2 GPU's?

[harryhuelsemann]

Hi. My 2006 HP machine doesn't have an iGPU. I need a GPU, but it only has an ADD2, two PCI, and a PCIe x1. Below is a picture of the motherboard, an HP DC5700.

Thank you.

[EminentSun]

if that is Pcie x16 gen 2.0 you should be fine with most gpus. Probably an rx 460 or gtx 1050/1050ti unless your psu has 6 pin power connectors.

[harryhuelsemann]

1 minute ago, EminentSun said:

if that is Pcie x16 gen 2.0 you should be fine with most gpus. Probably an rx 460 or gtx 1050/1050ti unless your psu has 6 pin power connectors.

No, It's regular PCI.

[EminentSun]

1 minute ago, ColonelB said:

It's regular PCI.

No, those two ports above the black x1 slot are pci.

The large port with the hinge below the x1 is pcie and is where the gpu goes.

 

[harryhuelsemann]

2 minutes ago, EminentSun said:

No, those two ports above the black x1 slot are pci.

The large port with the hinge below the x1 is pcie and is where the gpu goes.

 

 

That's ADD2

[MoonlightSylv]

4 minutes ago, ColonelB said:

That's ADD2

No, it's PCIe.

[Godlygamer23]

7 minutes ago, ColonelB said:

That's ADD2

The expansion slots on your motherboard are PCIe and PCI.

Edited January 20, 2017 by Godlygamer23

[LabRat]

the pci-e slot uses an adapter,  ( an ADD2 ) adapter to run tv cards and whatnot. you can put a modern graphics card in that pci-e slot................ or you could toss money away on a PCI ( only ) graphics card. (* modern depending on the operating system the machine is running ).

[harryhuelsemann]

1 minute ago, ShadowTechXTS said:

No, it's PCIe.

It's really not, I've tried to put in a GPU, didn't fit because it's ADD2, also nearby the ADD2 port it screams 'ADD2 SUPPORT ONLY' with white text on the motherboard.

[EminentSun]

1 minute ago, ShadowTechXTS said:

it's PCIe

Add2 is a standard that uses the pcie port, but with less functionality. Some add2 ports also support normal pcie gpus.

 

if yours doesn't (and I can't find any information on if it does) the only thing you can do is drive more monitors, even if you have a normal graphics card it will not function. My best advice would be to pick up a cheap one and see if it will drive any games.

 

[MoonlightSylv]

1 minute ago, EminentSun said:

Add2 is a standard that uses the pcie port, but with less functionality. Some add2 ports also support normal pcie gpus.

 

if yours doesn't (and I can't find any information on if it does) the only thing you can do is drive more monitors, even if you have a normal graphics card it will not function. My best advice would be to pick up a cheap one and see if it will drive any games.

 

Ah, okay.

[EminentSun]

1 minute ago, ColonelB said:

'ADD2 SUPPORT ONLY' with white text on the motherboard.

Any add2 cards use the intergrated graphics to drive video outputs so no you can't put any (modern) gpu in that thing. Sorry for the confusion.

[MoonlightSylv]

3 minutes ago, ColonelB said:

It's really not, I've tried to put in a GPU, didn't fit because it's ADD2, also nearby the ADD2 port it screams 'ADD2 SUPPORT ONLY' with white text on the motherboard.

You're probably out of luck then, every modern (consumer) GPU uses PCIe AFAIK.

[Godlygamer23]

3 minutes ago, ColonelB said:

It's really not, I've tried to put in a GPU, didn't fit because it's ADD2, also nearby the ADD2 port it screams 'ADD2 SUPPORT ONLY' with white text on the motherboard.

From Intel:

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ADD2 cards use the PCI Express x16 port to get serial digital video out (SDVO) signals from the Graphics and Memory Controller Hub (GMCH). ADD2 cards allow configurations for TV-out, LVDS, and TMDS output (for example, televisions and digital displays/flat panels). Combined with an Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator driver, ADD2 cards can be used to display output to a television, digital display, or simultaneously to a monitor and digital display.

Bold is mine.

Source: http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/graphics-drivers/000005747.html

[harryhuelsemann]

Or I'm crazy, It might have iGPU, but when the monitor is on it flashes white, red, blue, and green.

 

2 minutes ago, EminentSun said:

Any add2 cards use the intergrated graphics to drive video outputs so no you can't put any (modern) gpu in that thing. Sorry for the confusion.

 

[flibberdipper]

I imagine you could get something like a PCI (not express) Radeon HD 3450, but I'm not really certain that it'll be worth the cost, as they tend to be pricey for what they are.

[ARikozuM]

Would a PCIe x1 to PCIe x16 adapter cable work for you?

[harryhuelsemann]

1 minute ago, ARikozuM said:

Would a PCIe x1 to PCIe x16 adapter cable work for you?

Possibly, although I don't have all that much space.

[harryhuelsemann]

4 minutes ago, tmcclelland455 said:

I imagine you could get something like a PCI (not express) Radeon HD 3450, but I'm not really certain that it'll be worth the cost, as they tend to be pricey for what they are.

 

Would you be able to point me at one?

[LabRat]

there is a vga adapter that will work in that slot.. if you can find one............ or you can get a pci card for one of the pci slots......... and yes, sorry for the confusion with the "modern" card thing. I was wrong on that.

this is an example of a pci card..........http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814129188&ignorebbr=1

[flibberdipper]

30 minutes ago, ColonelB said:

Would you be able to point me at one?

Scour eBay is my only advice really.

[harryhuelsemann]

1 minute ago, tmcclelland455 said:

Scour eBay is my only advice really.

Aight, thanks.

[KenjiUmino]

1 hour ago, LabRat said:

there is a vga adapter that will work in that slot.. if you can find one............ or you can get a pci card for one of the pci slots......... and yes, sorry for the confusion with the "modern" card thing. I was wrong on that.

this is an example of a pci card..........http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814129188&ignorebbr=1

40 to 50 bucks for a radeon 7000 (not HD 7000 so it's almost two decades old DX 7 hardware with no shader support and nothing) with laughable 64mb of memory?

 

they can't be serious !

 

i could have gotten a geforce 5500 with 256mb for HALF of that, but instead, i bought a PCI geforce GT 610 with 512mb for 30 bucks and i found that too expensive already - but hey, it has DX 11 feature support so it makes some programs work that refuse to start without this (lookin' at you, OBS)

and it runs portal 2 at around 30 fps - booya!!

[aisle9]

Get in touch with Visiontek. Late last year, they did a "mystery GPU" promotion where you could pay anywhere from $5-$15, and they'd send you whatever GPU they had lying around. One of the categories was PCI graphics cards, so they might have some left.

 

Actually:

https://www.visiontek.com/refurbished/performance-graphics/visiontek-radeon-256mb-x1300-dms59-pci-graphics-card-detail.html

 

Also, a $9 400W PSU. Going to have to see who the OEM is. Might be able to use it on a cheapie build.

[KenjiUmino]

2 minutes ago, aisle9 said:

Actually:

https://www.visiontek.com/refurbished/performance-graphics/visiontek-radeon-256mb-x1300-dms59-pci-graphics-card-detail.html

 

Also, a $9 400W PSU. Going to have to see who the OEM is. Might be able to use it on a cheapie build.

a radeon x1300 for 35 bucks ... thats more like it, but it does not beat the 30 bucks GT 610