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850 EVO is underperforming in CrystalDiskMark. What could it be?

Noirgheos

As you can see, the Read speeds look good enough, but the Writes are consistently lower than what a quick Google search brings up. Could it be because I only have 31% free?

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How old is that SSD?

410MB/s write speed doesn't looks that bad to me.

 

Give me few minutes and I will test my evo 850 also :)

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Maybe TRIM isn't working like it should? That can cause slower writes.

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1 minute ago, Simon771 said:

How old is that SSD?

410MB/s write speed doesn't looks that bad to me.

 

Give me few minutes and I will test my evo 850 also :)

About 4 months old.

Just now, ShepBook said:

Maybe TRIM isn't working like it should? That can cause slower writes.

Windows shows all my drives as having TRIM enabled. Should I force TRIM on it and try again?

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1 minute ago, Noirgheos said:

Should I force TRIM on it and try again?

Give it a try and see! (Science!)

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Well it seems like your SSD is underperforming a bit.

This is my test of Samsung EVO 850 250GB. It's around 1,5 years old and around 15TB writen on it.

 

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7 minutes ago, ShepBook said:

Give it a try and see! (Science!)

 

5 minutes ago, ZenPowerBuilder said:

Looks pretty good to me. The scores are pretty normal for something running on SATA 3 (600 MB/s)

 

3 minutes ago, Simon771 said:

Well it seems like your SSD is underperforming a bit.

This is my test of Samsung EVO 850 250GB. It's around 1,5 years old and around 15TB writen on it.

 

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TRIM seems to have done the job. It had been 23 days since it was last run. Should I tell Windows to do it more frequently?

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1 minute ago, Noirgheos said:

TRIM seems to have done the job. It had been 23 days since it was last run. Should I tell Windows to do it more frequently?

I'm glad that solved your problem :)

TRIM should be ran once a week, or once a month if you are not installing and uninstalling a lot.

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1 minute ago, Simon771 said:

I'm glad that solved your problem :)

TRIM should be ran once a week, or once a month if you are not installing and uninstalling a lot.

All these games I'm torrenting... heck of a lot of both. Will set it to run weekly. Well, it already does say weekly. Thing is, it didn't.

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Yeah, TRIM is good to run more often. It can help keep performance consistent, especially if you're writing and rewriting a lot of data. (say, video encoding).

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1 minute ago, ShepBook said:

Yeah, TRIM is good to run more often. It can help keep performance consistent, especially if you're writing and rewriting a lot of data. (say, video encoding).

I think I'll set it to daily. It was set to weekly, but windows didn't do it for the past 23 days... Anything to worry about if I set it to daily?

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1 minute ago, Noirgheos said:

I think I'll set it to daily. It was set to weekly, but windows didn't do it for the past 23 days... Anything to worry about if I set it to daily?

Well it's good to run it often, but not too often lol

Weekly should be good, just manually check if it's acctually done every week.

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My understanding is that TRIM just tells the SSD to go clear out cells marked for "deletion". Deleting a file on an SSD doesn't guarantee it will actually by physically deleted. It might increase the wear level a bit, and if it TRIMs when you're busy, it might impact performance for a bit. I think windows tries to TRIM only when the SSD isn't busy, so if you've had a lot of torrents running, it might never have gotten to the point where it triggered the TRIM to run.

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10 minutes ago, ShepBook said:

My understanding is that TRIM just tells the SSD to go clear out cells marked for "deletion". Deleting a file on an SSD doesn't guarantee it will actually by physically deleted. It might increase the wear level a bit, and if it TRIMs when you're busy, it might impact performance for a bit. I think windows tries to TRIM only when the SSD isn't busy, so if you've had a lot of torrents running, it might never have gotten to the point where it triggered the TRIM to run.

Ah, I see. I'm usually running one every two days. Its mostly that I play tons of games. That may be it. TRIM takes five seconds to run, so I think I'll just do it manually weekly. Can I create a .bat that does it regardless of what's going on?

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2 minutes ago, Noirgheos said:

Can I create a .bat that does it regardless of what's going on?

I'm all for automating things! I'm sure there's some way to do this, but my windows scripting skills aren't the best. ^_^

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  • 7 months later...

Sorry, new to this forum. Here are the benchmark scores.

CrystalDiskMark 5.2.2 x64 (UWP) (C) 2007-2017 hiyohiyo
                           Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
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* MB/s = 1,000,000 bytes/s [SATA/600 = 600,000,000 bytes/s]
* KB = 1000 bytes, KiB = 1024 bytes

   Sequential Read (Q= 32,T= 1) :  4465.574 MB/s
  Sequential Write (Q= 32,T= 1) :  4918.132 MB/s
  Random Read 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) :   464.490 MB/s [113400.9 IOPS]
 Random Write 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) :   313.034 MB/s [ 76424.3 IOPS]
         Sequential Read (T= 1) :  7968.601 MB/s
        Sequential Write (T= 1) :  5392.322 MB/s
   Random Read 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) :   501.047 MB/s [122325.9 IOPS]
  Random Write 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) :   331.315 MB/s [ 80887.5 IOPS]

  Test : 500 MiB [C: 19.1% (88.9/465.3 GiB)] (x5)  [Interval=5 sec]
  Date : 2017/09/10 12:55:50
    OS : Windows 10  [10.0 Build 15063] (x64)

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