Which is better

[Woofly94]

i7 6700 with GTX 1080

 

or 

 

i7 6700k with GTX 1070

 

or

 

i7 6700k GTX 980Ti

 

 

all are same price, which would you buy and why

[alexzdro7]

depends on what your doing but i would go with the i7 6700k with the 1070 so you can overclock the cpu and the 1080 is overkill i have a 1070 and it runs evrything amazing

 

[Guest]

The first one as the 1080 is reallt nice

980Ti is old and perform around the same or worse than a 1070

 

However what you tryna do with the system. Gaming? At what resolution?

[Clear17Mud]

what would i buy well currently none of them, but what would i reccomend the gtx 1080 with a i5 unless you need the hyper threading...

[TheRandomness]

i7 6700k and GTX 1070. Mainly because the CPU will last a few years longer because of overclocking and the 1070 is going to be fine for many years to come. 

[Xdrone]

I think 6700k with 1070, But really you shouldn't need the i7 if you only game. i7 is really only useful with workstations and jobs that require lots of processing.

[ARikozuM]

4 minutes ago, Woofly94 said:

i7 6700 with GTX 1080

Best.

 

You'll be able to play most every game out there at 5760x1080@60 with SMP making it a very beautiful and rewarding experience.

 

 

 

[Woofly94]

2 minutes ago, TheRandomness said:

i7 6700k and GTX 1070. Mainly because the CPU will last a few years longer because of overclocking and the 1070 is going to be fine for many years to come. 

I dont overclock, so the benefit of the i7 6700k would only be the higher clock speed, I play at 1080p 144 hz, but please don't tell me this is overkill because I dont want your opinion on if it's overkill or not, I'm just interested in what you guys think will pump out the most fps since I want to utilize my 144 hz monitor.

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Woofly94 said:

I dont overclock, so the benefit of the i7 6700k would only be the higher clock speed, I play at 1080p 144 hz, but please don't tell me this is overkill because I dont want your opinion on if it's overkill or not, I'm just interested in what you guys think will pump out the most fps since I want to utilize my 144 hz monitor.

Then the first option no debate

[TheRandomness]

3 minutes ago, Woofly94 said:

I dont overclock, so the benefit of the i7 6700k would only be the higher clock speed, I play at 1080p 144 hz, but please don't tell me this is overkill because I dont want your opinion on if it's overkill or not, I'm just interested in what you guys think will pump out the most fps since I want to utilize my 144 hz monitor.

I'd still stick with my original choice because higher clockspeeds out of the box are always nice. 

[Woofly94]

6 minutes ago, TheRandomness said:

I'd still stick with my original choice because higher clockspeeds out of the box are always nice. 

Can I pick your brain and ask why you'd choose the 1070 over the 1080?, the i7 6700k isn't going to make up the 20% difference that a 1080 is to a 1070, maybe like 5% at most if overclocked, since I won't be overclocking that would be pointless won't it, also since the K is 4.0Ghz, wouldnt the turbo boost to 4.0 Ghz on the i7 6700 be just as good as a stock i7 6700k?

[PCGeek]

All depends on your priority.  If you are more gaming focused then it would be the 1080 to get more GPU power since most AAA games are GPU bound.  If you have the requirement to overclock and it's a higher priority than GPU power than go for the the option with the 1070 but these scenarios are few and far between like if you just like benchmark numbers.  For my needs, I would like the GPU power so I would choose the 1080.

[TheRandomness]

1 minute ago, Woofly94 said:

Can I pick your brain and ask why you'd choose the 1070 over the 1080?, the i7 6700k isn't going to make up the 20% difference that a 1080 is to a 1070, maybe like 5% at most if overclocked, since I won't be overclocking that would be pointless won't it, also since the non K is 4.0Ghz, wouldnt the turbo boost on the i7 6700 be just as good as a stock i7 6700k?

Because 1080p 144Hz is driven with performance to spare with a 1070, and a 1080 is quite overpowered for that. Also, you're forgetting the 6700k also boosts, and therefore can still outpace the 6700 even when stock

[Aereldor]

None of those. Get a 6600k and a 1080.

[Woofly94]

4 minutes ago, TheRandomness said:

6 minutes ago, TheRandomness said:

Because 1080p 144Hz is driven with performance to spare with a 1070, and a 1080 is quite overpowered for that. Also, you're forgetting the 6700k also boosts, and therefore can still outpace the 6700 even when stock

So you'd choose the GTX 1070 build just for the fact that the CPU will do better in 3 years time and that  the 5% increase in performance from a i7 6700 to a i7 6700k rather than the 25% increase from a GTX 1070 to a GTX 1080 and that you'd pick the GTX 1070 purely because 1080 is overkill, even though the builds are same price, Am I the only one who doesn't quite get this?

[TheRandomness]

10 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

None of those. Get a 6600k and a 1080.

6600k bottlenecks the 1080 in quite a few games.

5 minutes ago, Woofly94 said:

 

I'd prefer to have a more powerful CPU than GPU. 

[Woofly94]

1 minute ago, TheRandomness said:

6600k bottlenecks the 1080 in quite a few games.

I'd prefer to have a more powerful CPU than GPU. 

But there is barely a difference between the i7 6700 and the i7 6700k, but theres a huge gap between GTX 1070 and GTX 1080 is most games atleast 15fps, Say you're gaming, you'd pick the better CPU even though you're losing out on 15+fps with the GTX 1080 for the same price?

[TheRandomness]

2 minutes ago, Woofly94 said:

But there is barely a difference between the i7 6700 and the i7 6700k, but theres a huge gap between GTX 1070 and GTX 1080 is most games atleast 15fps, Say you're gaming, you'd pick the better CPU even though you're losing out on 15+fps with the GTX 1080 for the same price?

Future, get a Z270 board, overclock the shit out of the 6700k, suddenly you have a CPU with another 6 years of life added to it. You can't do that with the 6700. 

[Aereldor]

11 minutes ago, TheRandomness said:

6600k bottlenecks the 1080 in quite a few games.

Even when overclocked to 4.5 GHz and beyond? Should be easily achievable with any Z170 motherboard and a cheap cooler like a Gammaxx 400. I daresay 4.7 or 4.8 might be just as likely.

 

Also, what games do these prominent CPU bottlenecks occur in? 

Edited December 29, 2016 by Aereldor
Typographical error

[Woofly94]

1 minute ago, TheRandomness said:

Future, get a Z270 board, overclock the shit out of the 6700k, suddenly you have a CPU with another 6 years of life added to it. You can't do that with the 6700. 

Future proofing is overrated, I don't overclock at all, so getting a K CPU is only for the clock speed, You say another 6 years of life added to I7 6700K, well I highly doubt I'll ever keep this PC past 2 years, also the GTX 1080 will out last the GTX 1070 by a year or 2.

[Woofly94]

1 minute ago, Aereldor said:

Even when overclocked to 4.5 GHz and beyond? Should be easily achievable with any Z170 motherboard and a cheap cooler like a Gammaxx 400. I daresay 4.7 or 4.8 might be just as likely.

 

Also, what games do these prominent CPU bottleneck occur in? 

I play CPU intensive games like GTA V, and an i5 6600k isnt up to the job,

[ARikozuM]

1 minute ago, Aereldor said:

Also, what games do these prominent CPU bottleneck occur in? 

Only the ones you'll play though once.

[TheRandomness]

1 minute ago, Aereldor said:

Even when overclocked to 4.5 GHz and beyond? Should be easily achievable with any Z170 motherboard and a cheap cooler like a Gammaxx 400. I daresay 4.7 or 4.8 might be just as likely.

 

Also, what games do these prominent CPU bottleneck occur in? 

Battlefield 1 is the first that comes to mind, then there's the generic CPU intensive games and a few others I can't remember. 4.8GHz is stepping into the land of pre-binned chips, by the way...

1 minute ago, Woofly94 said:

Future proofing is overrated, I don't overclock at all, so getting a K CPU is only for the clock speed, You say another 6 years of life added to I7 6700K, well I highly doubt I'll ever keep this PC past 2 years, also the GTX 1080 will out last the GTX 1070 by a year or 2.

Considering I recently built a system with an X5450 in it, you'd be surprised how long a chip can last and still be decent to use in a new system. I'd happily stick with my 4790 until it breaks if I didn't want my system to be smaller than my head

[Woofly94]

1 minute ago, TheRandomness said:

Battlefield 1 is the first that comes to mind, then there's the generic CPU intensive games and a few others I can't remember. 4.8GHz is stepping into the land of pre-binned chips, by the way...

Considering I recently built a system with an X5450 in it, you'd be surprised how long a chip can last and still be decent to use in a new system. I'd happily stick with my 4790 until it breaks if I didn't want my system to be smaller than my head

I would still use a 4970k, even though is 3 years old the point is though I upgrade roughly every 2 years, so picking the i7 6700k system purely because it will last longer but perform significantly worse, just doesnt make sense to me. I'm looking for best performance for the next 2 years, I don't care about future proofing.

 

 

Put it like this, 

 

What would you choose and why?

 

i7 6700k GTX 1070    - 0 - 5 fps difference    

 

i7 6700 GTX 1080      - 15 - 30 fps difference

 

both same price.

[TheRandomness]

1 minute ago, Woofly94 said:

I would still use a 4970k, even though is 3 years old the point is though I upgrade roughly every 2 years, so picking the i7 6700k system purely because it will last longer but perform significantly worse, just doesnt make sense to me. I'm looking for best performance for the next 2 years, I don't care about future proofing.

 

 

Put it like this, 

 

What would you choose and why?

 

i7 6700k GTX 1070    - 0 - 5 fps difference    

 

i7 6700 GTX 1080      - 15 - 30 fps difference

 

both same price.

Why not a cheap 1080 and the 6700k?  Fine, the system with the 1080 but I'd still rather be able to recycle at least some of the parts of a PC, not just build a new one every two years.