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Kaby Lake Windows support

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I would go for Windows Server. I use it on a daily basis as a main desktop, and it's fine for that. You'll get a few weird quirks, such as the wireless and stuff, but overall it works great. 

So I think I'm soon going to get a brand-new, state-of-the-art laptop which has a Kaby Lake mobile processor in it.

But in the official statement, the manufacturer said the only Windows operating system you can install and use is Windows 10.

I can install Windows Server 2016 because I can legally get the license for free, but since I can also get a Windows 8.1 Embedded Industry Pro license, I want to install the latter.

 

So.... in conclusion, can I install and use Windows 8.1 on Kaby Lake-based system?

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I would go for Windows Server. I use it on a daily basis as a main desktop, and it's fine for that. You'll get a few weird quirks, such as the wireless and stuff, but overall it works great. 

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15 minutes ago, SCHISCHKA said:

your laptop is unlikely to have drivers for win 8. windows server is pretty useful to have as a desktop system, its what i used when i had access to it at uni

 

2 minutes ago, Jamiec1130 said:

I would go for Windows Server. I use it on a daily basis as a main desktop, and it's fine for that. You'll get a few weird quirks, such as the wireless and stuff, but overall it works great. 

Okay, it seems like I should install Server 2016 rather than 8.1 Embedded. Thanks guys!

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Definitely, especially because it should have driver support and processor support (I think). How did you get the license for free? School?

Main System: Phobos

AMD Ryzen 7 2700 (8C/16T), ASRock B450 Steel Legend, 16GB G.SKILL Aegis DDR4 3000MHz, AMD Radeon RX 570 4GB (XFX), 960GB Crucial M500, 2TB Seagate BarraCuda, Windows 10 Pro for Workstations/macOS Catalina

 

Secondary System: York

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Older File Server: Yet to be named

Intel Pentium 4 HT (1C/2T), Intel D865GBF, 3GB DDR 400MHz, ATI Radeon HD 4650 1GB (HIS), 80GB WD Caviar, 320GB Hitachi Deskstar, Windows XP Pro SP3, Windows Server 2003 R2

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9 minutes ago, PenPoint said:

 

Okay, it seems like I should install Server 2016 rather than 8.1 Embedded. Thanks guys!

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10 minutes ago, Jamiec1130 said:

Definitely, especially because it should have driver support and processor support (I think). How did you get the license for free? School?

Microsoft Imagine(a.k.a. Dreamspark) gives every students nice licenses for free :)

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1 minute ago, PenPoint said:

Microsoft Imagine(a.k.a. Dreamspark) gives every students nice licenses for free :)

Oh wow, didn't know about that one. Thanks!

Main System: Phobos

AMD Ryzen 7 2700 (8C/16T), ASRock B450 Steel Legend, 16GB G.SKILL Aegis DDR4 3000MHz, AMD Radeon RX 570 4GB (XFX), 960GB Crucial M500, 2TB Seagate BarraCuda, Windows 10 Pro for Workstations/macOS Catalina

 

Secondary System: York

Intel Core i7-2600 (4C/8T), ASUS P8Z68-V/GEN3, 16GB GEIL Enhance Corsa DDR3 1600MHz, Zotac GeForce GTX 550 Ti 1GB, 240GB ADATA Ultimate SU650, Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

 

Older File Server: Yet to be named

Intel Pentium 4 HT (1C/2T), Intel D865GBF, 3GB DDR 400MHz, ATI Radeon HD 4650 1GB (HIS), 80GB WD Caviar, 320GB Hitachi Deskstar, Windows XP Pro SP3, Windows Server 2003 R2

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CPU will work ABSOLUTELY FINE.  It is an x86 processor, it is backwards compatible.


HOWEVER, you will not have some of the new instruction set features which aren't supported on Windows 8.1.  Thats it, the CPU will work fine but it won't have some of the newly added instruction sets.  It simply means that Microsoft will not be going back and adding support for the new instruction sets on Windows 7 or Windows 8.  Simple.

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1 hour ago, Falconevo said:

CPU will work ABSOLUTELY FINE.  It is an x86 processor, it is backwards compatible.

Microsoft and Intel have been scheming to try and circumvent this.

1 hour ago, Falconevo said:


HOWEVER, you will not have some of the new instruction set features which aren't supported on Windows 8.1.  Thats it, the CPU will work fine but it won't have some of the newly added instruction sets.

Again, It's hard to tell. Microsoft wanted Skylake and above to not be supported on Windows 7 or 8.1 .

1 hour ago, Falconevo said:

 It simply means that Microsoft will not be going back and adding support for the new instruction sets on Windows 7 or Windows 8.  Simple.

A lot of people, including myself, thought that they meant something different.

 

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Kabylake is simply a refresh of an already available x86 Skylake architecture.  It will work absolutely fine, I can guarantee it.  So will AMD's Zen x86 architecture, that will also work just fine on Windows 7 and 8 but just not have access to newly available instruction sets.  Thats it.

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