how much storage

[.spider.]

1 minute ago, AkiraDaarkst said:

 

It's an easy answer.  The answer is to use multiple cards so that all the recordings done for a project (either daily or weekly or however the schedule is set) is spread across multiple cards so that if any card fails or gets lost, the rest still remains.  This is a better risk to take then having all the recordings on a single card which can either fail or get lost... and then chances are nothing is recoverable.

That's a very naive answer, of an arrogant smartass. 

[xQubeZx]

2 minutes ago, AkiraDaarkst said:

This is absolute bullshit.

 

@xQubeZx, we both know this.

It's an easy answer.  The answer is to use multiple cards so that all the recordings done for a project (either daily or weekly or however the schedule is set) is spread across multiple cards so that if any card fails or gets lost, the rest still remains.  This is a better risk to take then having all the recordings on a single card which can either fail or get lost... and then chances are nothing is recoverable.

I completley agree. There is a reason I have started going after all this bs statments trying to force him to give some proper sources, info or anything that can support all this stuff as it can be very missleading at times for beginners or those that don't want to do the reaserch themselves and just accepts everything. 

[AkiraDaarkst]

1 minute ago, xQubeZx said:

Pretty much what I was trying to get too. I would always rather have my data across a few cards than relying on a single one. Same with backups, I will want to have them on at least two locations or more. 

Exactly.  I don't even delete the files from the card or format the cards until I've made sure the data on them is saved in at least two separate locations/drives.  And because sometimes I don't get the time to offload stuff off the card to multiple destinations by the end of the day, I have multiple cards which are rotated around for use.  I don't even format the cards until before the start of the next shoot letting old data sit on them just for that extremely unlikely case that I may need them.

[.spider.]

4 minutes ago, xQubeZx said:

 There is a reason I have started going after all this bs statments trying to force him to give some proper sources, info or anything that can support all this stuff as it can be very missleading at times for beginners or those that don't want to do the reaserch themselves and just accepts everything. 

I am going after your bullshit and missleading statement in the hope that beginners don't take them granted.

 

You've never shown a source ?

[AkiraDaarkst]

There's a very good reason why most semi-pro and professional camera models come with dual memory card slots and in the camera settings you can configure it to duplicate/save each photo or video being shot to both cards.

[xQubeZx]

2 minutes ago, AkiraDaarkst said:

Exactly.  I don't even delete the files from the card or format the cards until I've made sure the data on them is saved in at least two separate locations/drives.  And because sometimes I don't get the time to offload stuff off the card to multiple destinations by the end of the day, I have multiple cards which are rotated around for use.  I don't even format the cards until before the start of the next shoot letting old data sit on them just for that extremely unlikely case that I may need them.

I will usally try to backup my cards to my laptop directly after I come home again. Then I take it a bit more chill and then backup the card a second time to my desktop when I have time or start editing. However I have a plan to get myself a 1TB external HDD dedicated for images to use with the laptop and then get myself a NAS with a few HDD's that run in some raid configuration. So I have completley seperate storage for images and all other stuff. 

[AkiraDaarkst]

6 minutes ago, xQubeZx said:

There is a reason I have started going after all this bs statments trying to force him to give some proper sources, info or anything that can support all this stuff as it can be very missleading at times for beginners or those that don't want to do the reaserch themselves and just accepts everything. 

Or just ignore him/her/it.  Not worth our time or energy.

[.spider.]

1 minute ago, AkiraDaarkst said:

There's a very good reason why most semi-pro and professional camera models come with dual memory card slots and in the camera settings you can configure it to duplicate/save each photo or video being shot to both cards.

OK and? What's the point of that random statement?

[.spider.]

2 minutes ago, xQubeZx said:

 NAS with a few HDD's that run in some raid configuration. 

It's important to say that RAID is no backup

[xQubeZx]

2 minutes ago, .spider. said:

I am going after your bullshit and missleading statement in the hope that beginners don't take them granted.

 

You've never shown a source ?

Have I ever said something that would have needed some real proof? I doubt it, if I have I apologize. 

 

 I mostly respond to threads about lenses and cameras and other gear related things that are very subjective and have very precise spec sheets. There is nothing you would really doubt in those cases? Its not like I say a D3300 is better than a D810. However you say a shit ton of more controversial stuff that there barley exists any real information on unless you dig really deep. 

 

But sure go ahead. I would appreciate it but I doubt you will find much joy in doing it.

[AkiraDaarkst]

17 minutes ago, xQubeZx said:

I will usally try to backup my cards to my laptop directly after I come home again. Then I take it a bit more chill and then backup the card a second time to my desktop when I have time or start editing. However I have a plan to get myself a 1TB external HDD dedicated for images to use with the laptop and then get myself a NAS with a few HDD's that run in some raid configuration. So I have completley seperate storage for images and all other stuff. 

Here's what I am doing for my photos:

• My active LR catalog and photos are currently stored on Amazon Drive (I pay the annual fee for the unlimited storage) so that I can share the catalog and and photos between my MBP (portable workstation) and my desktop workstation and I use the Amazon Drive desktop app so that the files also physically exist on the MBP and desktop's drives.  Amazon Drive synchronizes the files between the two machines and the cloud.
• I have a high capacity NAS at home which is used for backup.
• I have several external drives organized by year where files are copied and then the drive is stored in a safe location inside a Peli case.

For videos:

• Using external Thunderbolt/USB 3 drives as primary storage, active projects (mainly because it would take hours to upload hundreds of GBs of RAW and very high bit rate video files to the cloud) and because the drives are using exFat and have both TB and USB ports I can connect them to my MBP and desktop, no need to be bound to one type of machine.  And these drives have dual TB ports for daisy chaining if I need to expand storage.
• High capacity NAS for backup.
• External drives organized by year, and drives stored in a safe location inside Peli cases.

I don't access the drives inside the Peli cases unless I absolutely need to.

[.spider.]

18 minutes ago, xQubeZx said:

Its not like I say a D3300 is better than a D810.

Isn't it?

[.spider.]

12 minutes ago, AkiraDaarkst said:

 

• My active LR catalog and photos are currently stored on Amazon Drive (I pay the annual fee for the unlimited storage) so that I can share the catalog and and photos between my MBP (portable workstation) and my desktop workstation

I'd use a professional service like s3

[AbrahamoLincolni]

On 12/23/2016 at 2:53 PM, xQubeZx said:

I would argue that $50 for a SD card is quite expensive considering how easy it is to loose one. A 64GB makes more sense as you can get two of those for the same price of a 128GB. Its better to be a bit more safe and have your footage spread out instead of all on one single source that might fail. If you loose one 64, you will have at least half left. Loose the 128 and you have nothing left.

 

Also where does the "the risk that one card fails doubles" come from? Got any reliable source this time or is it just more bs without any solid background? 

$50 for 2 64GB SD cards is better than $50 for a single 128GB card or buy 2 128GB cards for $100.  The capacity is less but so is the risk of losing everything.  Ask any professional photographer and they'll always saying redundancy is best and better to lose some than lose everything.  I'm going to assume that kid has never experienced a memory card failing or files being corrupted, and that's where his naivety comes from.

[AbrahamoLincolni]

On 12/23/2016 at 4:50 PM, AkiraDaarkst said:

Here's what I am doing for my photos:

• My active LR catalog and photos are currently stored on Amazon Drive (I pay the annual fee for the unlimited storage) so that I can share the catalog and and photos between my MBP (portable workstation) and my desktop workstation and I use the Amazon Drive desktop app so that the files also physically exist on the MBP and desktop's drives.  Amazon Drive synchronizes the files between the two machines and the cloud.
• I have a high capacity NAS at home which is used for backup.
• I have several external drives organized by year where files are copied and then the drive is stored in a safe location inside a Peli case.

For videos:

• Using external Thunderbolt/USB 3 drives as primary storage, active projects (mainly because it would take hours to upload hundreds of GBs of RAW and very high bit rate video files to the cloud) and because the drives are using exFat and have both TB and USB ports I can connect them to my MBP and desktop, no need to be bound to one type of machine.  And these drives have dual TB ports for daisy chaining if I need to expand storage.
• High capacity NAS for backup.
• External drives organized by year, and drives stored in a safe location inside Peli cases.

I don't access the drives inside the Peli cases unless I absolutely need to.

I looked up Amazon Drive, $60 a year for unlimited storage sounds nice.  I have around 2TB of photos, it will be cheaper than Amazon S3.

[AbrahamoLincolni]

I also see he keeps tagging our comments as funny, thanks for upping our reputation.  It's always nice to have people know that we have a good sense of humor.

[.spider.]

1 minute ago, AbrahamoLincolni said:

I looked up Amazon Drive, $60 a year for unlimited storage sounds nice.  I have around 2TB of photos, it will be cheaper than Amazon S3.

That's what I call naivety... counting on consumer grade cloud storage. 

 

http://www.computerworld.com/article/3060736/microsoft-windows/microsoft-gives-onedrive-users-until-july-to-shrink-their-storage.html

 

https://marvelsfilm.wordpress.com/2014/04/21/martin-says-ditch-that-dropbox/

 

 

[.spider.]

19 minutes ago, AbrahamoLincolni said:

I also see he keeps tagging our comments as funny, thanks for upping our reputation.  It's always nice to have people know that we have a good sense of humor.

Yes you are very entertaining ?

[AkiraDaarkst]

38 minutes ago, AbrahamoLincolni said:

I looked up Amazon Drive, $60 a year for unlimited storage sounds nice.  I have around 2TB of photos, it will be cheaper than Amazon S3.

It's worth it.  I have over 4TB of photos and LR catalog files, I'm not going to spend over $1000 a year.  If Amazon changes any of their services (who knows, one day Amazon could go out of business completely), I can always go back to using a portable drive to carry the files and use them between my MBP and desktop.  It's not like I lose any of the files since they are stored on the MBP and desktop's physical drives.  I use Amazon drive just to synchronize any edits I make.  And I'm not uploading pornography or government secrets... fuck the NSA.

[.spider.]

15 minutes ago, AkiraDaarkst said:

It's worth it. 

But not even allowed to use for commercial usage.

[AbrahamoLincolni]

46 minutes ago, AkiraDaarkst said:

It's worth it.  I have over 4TB of photos and LR catalog files, I'm not going to spend over $1000 a year.  If Amazon changes any of their services (who knows, one day Amazon could go out of business completely), I can always go back to using a portable drive to carry the files and use them between my MBP and desktop.  It's not like I lose any of the files since they are stored on the MBP and desktop's physical drives.  I use Amazon drive just to synchronize any edits I make.  And I'm not uploading pornography or government secrets... fuck the NSA.

I just thought of something, a macbook pro has a maximum internal storage of 1TB so how do you keep 4TB of photos on it?

[AkiraDaarkst]

27 minutes ago, AbrahamoLincolni said:

I just thought of something, a macbook pro has a maximum internal storage of 1TB so how do you keep 4TB of photos on it?

The MBP doesn't auto sync with every photo folder.  Full auto sync is only enabled on the desktop. The MBP is syncs with a folder called "Latest" and the LR catalog.  But if I ever need to access old photos from a previous year on the MBP I can download it from Amazon drive instead of having to go copy files from the desktop which if I'm traveling might be half-way across the world but in case of not being able to connect to a network I also carry a portable drive with a complete copy.  Every quarter year I move all the stuff from the latest folder to the proper archive folders.  My photos are organized into the following:

• I have a separate folder called "Latest" which holds 3 months worth of photos.  This is the one I upload to with all the new stuff.
• Every year gets its own folder.
• Inside each year I have folders grouping the photos by camera model.
• And then inside each camera model folder, I have it sorted by Year-Month-Day.
• If I need to retrieve a photo of a certain model or event, I use the keywords in the LR catalog to look them up.

When I travel, I carry about 10TB of photos and stock images, videos, audio, show reels, anything that's considered essential if I ever need to edit and produce something in the field.

[AbrahamoLincolni]

14 hours ago, AkiraDaarkst said:

The MBP doesn't auto sync with every photo folder.  Full auto sync is only enabled on the desktop. The MBP is syncs with a folder called "Latest" and the LR catalog.  But if I ever need to access old photos from a previous year on the MBP I can download it from Amazon drive instead of having to go copy files from the desktop which if I'm traveling might be half-way across the world but in case of not being able to connect to a network I also carry a portable drive with a complete copy.  Every quarter year I move all the stuff from the latest folder to the proper archive folders.  My photos are organized into the following:

• I have a separate folder called "Latest" which holds 3 months worth of photos.  This is the one I upload to with all the new stuff.
• Every year gets its own folder.
• Inside each year I have folders grouping the photos by camera model.
• And then inside each camera model folder, I have it sorted by Year-Month-Day.
• If I need to retrieve a photo of a certain model or event, I use the keywords in the LR catalog to look them up.

When I travel, I carry about 10TB of photos and stock images, videos, audio, show reels, anything that's considered essential if I ever need to edit and produce something in the field.

Thanks man.  I signed up for Amazon Drive unlimited, it will take a while to upload my catalog and photos.

[xQubeZx]

20 hours ago, AkiraDaarkst said:

The MBP doesn't auto sync with every photo folder.  Full auto sync is only enabled on the desktop. The MBP is syncs with a folder called "Latest" and the LR catalog.  But if I ever need to access old photos from a previous year on the MBP I can download it from Amazon drive instead of having to go copy files from the desktop which if I'm traveling might be half-way across the world but in case of not being able to connect to a network I also carry a portable drive with a complete copy.  Every quarter year I move all the stuff from the latest folder to the proper archive folders.  My photos are organized into the following:

• I have a separate folder called "Latest" which holds 3 months worth of photos.  This is the one I upload to with all the new stuff.
• Every year gets its own folder.
• Inside each year I have folders grouping the photos by camera model.
• And then inside each camera model folder, I have it sorted by Year-Month-Day.
• If I need to retrieve a photo of a certain model or event, I use the keywords in the LR catalog to look them up.

When I travel, I carry about 10TB of photos and stock images, videos, audio, show reels, anything that's considered essential if I ever need to edit and produce something in the field.

I would like to do something like this as soon as I get some decent internet. Atm my internet is way to slow for this to work really. But I will most likley get my 100/100 fiber line before this summer so then I might go ahead and pay for Dropbox. Is a bit expensive but I really like their system and it have worked very well for me compared to OneDrive or Google Drive that have had troubles syncing across different units. 

[AkiraDaarkst]

16 hours ago, xQubeZx said:

I would like to do something like this as soon as I get some decent internet. Atm my internet is way to slow for this to work really. But I will most likley get my 100/100 fiber line before this summer so then I might go ahead and pay for Dropbox. Is a bit expensive but I really like their system and it have worked very well for me compared to OneDrive or Google Drive that have had troubles syncing across different units. 

DropBox works too.