How powerful is this machine?

[TheNuzziNuzz]

I may be gaining access to a PowerEdge server, and I'm wondering how many game servers I could run on it if ram isn't an issue.

 

The CPU is a XEON X3430

Its running Windows small buisness server 2011

The model is dell PowerEdge T110

Its 64 bit.

 

Its internet connection via speedtest is:

10ms

18.30Mbps down

1.94Mbps Up

Comcast Business

 

Thoughts?

[paps511]

I don't know anything about server hardware, but that is a 7 year old cpu, and has 4 cores 4 threads at 2.4ghz and only 8mb of cache

 

Probably not that many game servers

[knightslugger]

not very. processor is a 7 year old non-hyperthreaded 2.4 GHz quad core a DMI link of 2.5GT/s, 16 lanes of PCIe 2.0

[TheNuzziNuzz]

1 minute ago, paps511 said:

I don't know anything about server hardware, but that is a 7 year old cpu, and has 4 cores 4 threads at 2.4ghz and only 8mb of cache

 

Probably not that many game servers

 

 

1 minute ago, knightslugger said:

not very. processor is a 7 year old non-hyperthreaded 2.4 GHz quad core a DMI link of 2.5GT/s, 16 lanes of PCIe 2.0

Think I could get at least 4?

[KSores]

It's not very powerful at all

[JefferyD90]

7 minutes ago, TheNuzziNuzz said:

I may be gaining access to a PowerEdge server, and I'm wondering how many game servers I could run on it if ram isn't an issue.

 

The CPU is a XEON X3430

Its running Windows small buisness server 2011

The model is dell PowerEdge T110

Its 64 bit.

 

Its internet connection via speedtest is:

10ms

18.30Mbps down

1.94Mbps Up

Comcast Business

 

Thoughts?

It depends on what you're wanting to run...  A few minecraft servers with a total of 20 users...  sure why not. 

[knightslugger]

depends on the game and if you're serving externally. 2 meg up isn't what i would consider robust.

[TheNuzziNuzz]

Just now, knightslugger said:

depends on the game and if you're serving externally. 2 meg up isn't what i would consider robust.

I'm trying to run a Pocketmine (MCPE) server, and a GMod server, and maybe a few more to come. I don't really have any money to spend on a crazy upgrade. Are there any CPU's that are newer/better than can fit in that socket?

 

The speedtest is weird as it is Comcast business....

[knightslugger]

4 minutes ago, TheNuzziNuzz said:

I'm trying to run a Pocketmine (MCPE) server, and a GMod server, and maybe a few more to come. I don't really have any money to spend on a crazy upgrade. Are there any CPU's that are newer/better than can fit in that socket?

 

The speedtest is weird as it is Comcast business....

maybe ask your users to chip in...

[TheNuzziNuzz]

1 minute ago, knightslugger said:

maybe ask your users to chip in...

You mean ask them to pay for it?

I do plan to charge them and ideally for a total of 20USD a month. Is that not enough? The MCPE client wants 500mb of ram, and 5-10 player slots. I don't know about GMod, but I know I want at least 20/m total.

[knightslugger]

yes, although $20/mo pp should get you a pretty premium experience, which you don't seem to be able to deliver ATM.

 

ask for the money first so that you can at least invest in a quality system. once you can get a reliable high quality experience, then start demanding. that's rather beyond the topic though.

[Mikensan]

Actually a very capable processor, not sure of all the comments... This is the lynfield / second-gen I-series (like i7/i5 etc..) processor.. plenty of giddyup. Most game servers don't require much CPU horsepower, mostly RAM and disk IOPS.

 

Your upload will limit you WAY before this processor will. With a 2mbps upload, you might get 1 minecraft server with 10-20 users and start seeing lag.

[TheNuzziNuzz]

4 minutes ago, Mikensan said:

Actually a very capable processor, not sure of all the comments... This is the lynfield / second-gen I-series (like i7/i5 etc..) processor.. plenty of giddyup. Most game servers don't require much CPU horsepower, mostly RAM and disk IOPS.

 

Your upload will limit you WAY before this processor will. With a 2mbps upload, you might get 1 minecraft server with 10-20 users and start seeing lag.

 

Thank you for the proof by fact. It currently only has 8gb of ram, but I will upgrade that as soon as I get the money. As for the internet connection, i'm sure I can get that number up. This server is actaully located at my parrents buisness. It used to be used as an email server but they recently just migrated to MS Exchange, allowing me to reperpose it.

[Mikensan]

5 minutes ago, TheNuzziNuzz said:

Thank you for the proof by fact. It currently only has 8gb of ram, but I will upgrade that as soon as I get the money. As for the internet connection, i'm sure I can get that number up. This server is actaully located at my parrents buisness. It used to be used as an email server but they recently just migrated to MS Exchange, allowing me to reperpose it.

It's a server I would certainly be happy to own myself.

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Xeon-X3430-vs-Intel-Core-i7-920

 

Still a very capable processor. I'm using the same generation for my ESXi servers hosting multiple virtual machines. Don't believe the nay-sayers.

Dell R610 and Dell R710 - very popular amongst home lab, run off of the same nehalem arch. 

 

(Minecraft, at least the last version I hosted, ran off of Java and only used a single core anyway, never going over 1% for a 50 player server on a Core 2 Duo).

[TheNuzziNuzz]

17 hours ago, Mikensan said:

It's a server I would certainly be happy to own myself.

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Xeon-X3430-vs-Intel-Core-i7-920

 

Still a very capable processor. I'm using the same generation for my ESXi servers hosting multiple virtual machines. Don't believe the nay-sayers.

Dell R610 and Dell R710 - very popular amongst home lab, run off of the same nehalem arch. 

 

(Minecraft, at least the last version I hosted, ran off of Java and only used a single core anyway, never going over 1% for a 50 player server on a Core 2 Duo).

 

So the CPU is at like 1% most, but I realized that the server is still used for logon. All of the machines in the building log onto it, but not as thin clients. Everyone in the building only uses their own computer, and it always takes them alot of time to log on. The trouble is what I do cannot affect them at ALL. They can't have any knoledge that anything evean happend. Do I give up? I don't think taking them off of the server is a good idea? THe only real delema with resources is with RAM. If I just give it 64gb and would it be fine? 80% of the 8gb is currently in use by "Explorer.exe".

 

Can I still do this without interupting their workflow?

[Altecice]

It will be fine for a few Garrys Mods servers. The only issue will be the 2Mbps upload you have, thats the limiting factor.

[TheNuzziNuzz]

6 minutes ago, Altecice said:

It will be fine for a few Garrys Mods servers. The only issue will be the 2Mbps upload you have, thats the limiting factor.

I'm mostly concerned about it getting in the way of the other people in the building. How much of that upload will they need? Can I do this without them noticing?

[Altecice]

Just now, TheNuzziNuzz said:

I'm mostly concerned about it getting in the way of the other people in the building. How much of that upload will they need? Can I do this without them noticing?

When you say building, is this shared internet across lots of people/ company network? If so then I would suggest it might not be a good idea to set up a server on that network as you wont really have permission. Another thing to think about is if you require DDNS (for the domain might want to buy) if your external IP changes.

[TheNuzziNuzz]

34 minutes ago, Altecice said:

When you say building, is this shared internet across lots of people/ company network? If so then I would suggest it might not be a good idea to set up a server on that network as you wont really have permission. Another thing to think about is if you require DDNS (for the domain might want to buy) if your external IP changes.

 

 

 

There are 4 desktops connected to the network, plus the server. Everything is connected to a switch which connects to the comcast modem/router. They use file sharing amoung the computers inside the network, and mainly work of that. They are starting to move into their new Office 365 cloud service though. They go to websites just as much as they email, but often they are doing other things. Another thing to note would be who I'm giving the space to. These are people who have school, so they will only be able to use it during times where the business will rely less on the internet. For example, weekends. I didn't actually think about that until now.

 

So actually,,,

 

I think that I should actually upgrade all their computers to windows 10, than have them log in with their microsoft accounts. Then they get windows 10...hurray, plus I get my server. Then the internet is still a problem so I'll have to figure somthing out.

[Altecice]

11 minutes ago, TheNuzziNuzz said:

 

There are 4 desktops connected to the network, plus the server. Everything is connected to a switch which connects to the comcast modem/router. They use file sharing amoung the computers inside the network, and mainly work of that. They are starting to move into their new Office 365 cloud service though. They go to websites just as much as they email, but often they are doing other things. Another thing to note would be who I'm giving the space to. These are people who have school, so they will only be able to use it during times where the business will rely less on the internet. For example, weekends. I didn't actually think about that until now.

 

So actually,,,

 

I think that I should actually upgrade all their computers to windows 10, than have them log in with their microsoft accounts. Then they get windows 10...hurray, plus I get my server. Then the internet is still a problem so I'll have to figure somthing out.

You could use your server as a file server for everybody (SMB share). Just make sure to have at least a RAID1 and some sort of backup. Might be another use for it.

 

People used to say RAID does not = a backup!... but while that was true with Hardware based RAIDS, software based RAIDS are much easier to migrate to a new machine so I would say they are a valid backup (RAID5/6/10).

[TheNuzziNuzz]

5 minutes ago, Altecice said:

You could use your server as a file server for everybody (SMB share). Just make sure to have at least a RAID1 and some sort of backup. Might be another use for it.

 

People used to say RAID does not = a backup!... but while that was true with Hardware based RAIDS, software based RAIDS are much easier to migrate to a new machine so I would say they are a valid backup (RAID5/6/10).

 

The server already has a raid, not sure how its setup though. There is a 2tb external backup drive, but its not in use ATM.

[Mikensan]

I would not use a domain controller to host games. I was of the understanding this server would be retired and a new one purchased for the office. 

 

Authentication is a very quick process. if computers are slow to log in, it could be due to them processing the GPOs very slowly or some other external factor. Very unlikely the DC's hardware is causing users to log in slowly.